[quote]forlife wrote:
Sloth wrote:
forlife wrote:
raises hand
I may not be a heretic, but can I at least be a heathen?
Apostate seems more fitting, I think.
Only if you consider Mormons to be Christians, which many people (mistakenly) don’t.[/quote]
No offense to anyone, but Mormonism is a cult.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
No offense to anyone, but Mormonism is a cult.[/quote]
And Mormons consider Catholics to be the “Great and Abominable Church”.
Which underlines the point:
Believing something to be true just because you want it to be true doesn’t actually make it true.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
No offense to anyone, but Mormonism is a cult.
And Mormons consider Catholics to be the “Great and Abominable Church”.
Which underlines the point:
Believing something to be true just because you want it to be true doesn’t actually make it true.
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Yeah, so says the people that worship Joseph Smith.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Yeah, so says the people that worship Joseph Smith.[/quote]
They don’t worship Joseph Smith any more than you worship the Virgin Mary. And they are just as likely to be right as you are, since it’s all based on faith rather than facts, right?
[quote]forlife wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
Yeah, so says the people that worship Joseph Smith.
They don’t worship Joseph Smith any more than you worship the Virgin Mary. And they are just as likely to be right as you are, since it’s all based on faith rather than facts, right?[/quote]
Haha, well when people start receiving their own planets, let me know so I can believe they are right. Difference between Catholicism and Mormonism is that Catholicism still is established in the Bible and that we go to God’s Kingdom after death. Where do Mormons go after they leave this world?
Waiting on the other virgin mortal woman birth stories.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Sloth wrote:
forlife wrote:
raises hand
I may not be a heretic, but can I at least be a heathen?
Apostate seems more fitting, I think.
Only if you consider Mormons to be Christians, which many people (mistakenly) don’t.[/quote]
Maybe apostate doesn’t fit…
[quote]Sloth wrote:
forlife wrote:
Sloth wrote:
forlife wrote:
raises hand
I may not be a heretic, but can I at least be a heathen?
Apostate seems more fitting, I think.
Only if you consider Mormons to be Christians, which many people (mistakenly) don’t.
Maybe apostate doesn’t fit…[/quote]
Lol, ex-cult follower.
Its painfully obvious that anyone who believes in ANY of the religions, is a complete dumbass. The mere fact that there are multiple religions with differents gods (jesus, buddha, allah, whatever ), begs the childish yet valid question - why YOUR god is better than the god of another religion?
Religion fanaticizes the mob, and creates many logical fallacies
BUT , IF someone believes in JESUS for example, there is NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, that could happen that can convince them otherwise. No potential for falsification. Now that i think of it, blind belief in sth without having any evidence for its existence and psychosis are both very similar .
The only good that comes with religion, is hope, and perhaps some reconciliaton with the fact of our own mortality. YOUR SET OF BELIEFS ( is capable of altering your neurochemistry. So in that regard, if you have the capability in believing in sth without having anything to back up your belief like religion, and that helps how you feel and your life in general , please go on. Its a healthy illussion.
So if you like to believe in jesus, allaj, santa claus, elfs , or invisible flying pink rhinos, go ahead. Noone could stop you.
As for the existence of a God, as a higher power that created the universe, thats also quite laughable, yet MUCH LESS ridiculous, than the notion of a belief in a god of a religion.
Occam’s razor… nuff said.
[quote]acidhell wrote:
Its painfully obvious that anyone who believes in ANY of the religions, is a complete dumbass. The mere fact that there are multiple religions with differents gods (jesus, buddha, allah, whatever ), begs the childish yet valid question - why YOUR god is better than the god of another religion?
Religion fanaticizes the mob, and creates many logical fallacies
BUT , IF someone believes in JESUS for example, there is NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, that could happen that can convince them otherwise. No potential for falsification. Now that i think of it, blind belief in sth without having any evidence for its existence and psychosis are very similar .
The only good that comes with religion, is hope, and perhaps some reconciliaton with the fact of our own mortality. YOUR SET OF BELIEFS ( is capable of altering your neurochemistry. So in that regard, if you have the capability in believing in sth without having anything to back up your belief like religion, and that helps how you feel and your life in general , please go on. Its a healthy illussion.
So if you like to believe in jesus, allaj, santa claus, elfs , or invisible flying pink rhinos, go ahead. Noone could stop you.
As for the existence of a God, as a higher power that created the universe, thats also quite laughable, yet MUCH LESS ridiculous, than the notion of a belief in a god of a religion.
Occam’s razor… nuff said.[/quote]
I was contemplating if I should ignore you, for your lack of knowledge, or answer you to correct you. I’ll be a dick and hopefully you will see your fallacy.
I do not think anyone has said they believe in a religion. You do not really believe in a religion, kind of a weird concept. That is like saying I have faith in brushing my teeth and hair every morning, I am going to be saved. You may follow a religion, which is set of actions you follow repeatedly.*
I do not think my God is better than anyone else’s god, from your perspective you think I do. However, I believe and trust my God’s written word (Holy Bible). So, I do not believe there is any other gods, except the Holy Trinity God. So, it is not that I think mine is better, I think mine is the only one. See how that is different than the my dad can beat up your dad argument.
Word to your moms, I came to drop bombs,
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Waiting on the other virgin mortal woman birth stories.
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Here are a few to get you started. Of course, only the virgin birth of Jesus actually happened; all of these others are fairy tales:
Perseus was born of the virgin Danae
Dionysius was born of the virgin Semele
Mithra was conceived when God himself, in the form of light, entered a virgin
Adonis was born of the virgin Myrrh
Attis was born of the virgin Cybele
Zoroaster was born of a virgin
The avatars taken by Vishnu on earth were virgin births
Karna was born to the virgin Queen Kunti by the god Surya, before her marriage to King Pandu
The poet Kabir was born of a virgin widow
Emperor Augustus, the reigning sovereign during the time of Jesus, was reputedly miraculously begotten when a snake descended upon his mother in the temple of Apollo
Romulus, the founder of Rome, was born of a vestal virgin
Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Haha, well when people start receiving their own planets, let me know so I can believe they are right. Difference between Catholicism and Mormonism is that Catholicism still is established in the Bible and that we go to God’s Kingdom after death. Where do Mormons go after they leave this world?[/quote]
1 Corinthians 15:40-42
It’s all good though, only Catholic fairy tales are real…Mormon fairy tales are just silly.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Waiting on the other virgin mortal woman birth stories.
Here are a few to get you started. Of course, only the virgin birth of Jesus actually happened; all of these others are fairy tales:
Perseus was born of the virgin Danae
Dionysius was born of the virgin Semele
Mithra was conceived when God himself, in the form of light, entered a virgin
Adonis was born of the virgin Myrrh
Attis was born of the virgin Cybele
Zoroaster was born of a virgin
The avatars taken by Vishnu on earth were virgin births
Karna was born to the virgin Queen Kunti by the god Surya, before her marriage to King Pandu
The poet Kabir was born of a virgin widow
Emperor Augustus, the reigning sovereign during the time of Jesus, was reputedly miraculously begotten when a snake descended upon his mother in the temple of Apollo
Romulus, the founder of Rome, was born of a vestal virgin
Krishna was born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki[/quote]
Cross out all of these that involved sex. Who gives a crap about “miraculous” conceptions? You might as well throw Hercules up there. Geebus.
For instance, Romulus was born because Mars RAPED Sylvia. Oh, that’s a hell of a similarity to the Virign Mary’s (virgin before, during–and with some disagreement, I guess,—after) conception. And are you really under the impression that Zeus didn’t “tap that,” conceiving Dionysius? Again, see Hercules…and others (Zeus got around). And Devaki, Krishna’s mother, was definitely not a virgin.
If that’s what you meant when bringing up the virginity issue, “popping a virgin’s charity,” then there is no “similarity.” Similar with a lusty teenager, maybe…
Could you share the story (and source) for Zoroaster’s “virgin birth?”
[quote]forlife wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
Haha, well when people start receiving their own planets, let me know so I can believe they are right. Difference between Catholicism and Mormonism is that Catholicism still is established in the Bible and that we go to God’s Kingdom after death. Where do Mormons go after they leave this world?
1 Corinthians 15:40-42
It’s all good though, only Catholic fairy tales are real…Mormon fairy tales are just silly.[/quote]
What is the “Plurality of the gods?” Sorry, there are schisms within Cristianity, and then there’s going completely off the reservation.
And am I mistaken that Adonis was conceived in incest, between a King and daughter? Oh yeah, similar, that.
Edit: Oh wait, here’s the other miracle birth stories. And with such striking similarities!
“It was also said that Myrrha fled from her father and Aphrodite turned her into a tree. Adonis was then born when Theias shot an arrow into the tree or when a boar used its tusks to tear the tree’s bark off.”
Dude, you’re copying and pasting stuff without double checking. Admit it, man.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Brother Chris wrote:
Haha, well when people start receiving their own planets, let me know so I can believe they are right. Difference between Catholicism and Mormonism is that Catholicism still is established in the Bible and that we go to God’s Kingdom after death. Where do Mormons go after they leave this world?
1 Corinthians 15:40-42
It’s all good though, only Catholic fairy tales are real…Mormon fairy tales are just silly.[/quote]
I asked where they go, not a piece of scripture that talks about flesh and spirit pulled out of context.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Dude, you’re copying and pasting stuff without double checking. Admit it, man.[/quote]
Lol, I pulled references to virgin births from Wiki, which noted that different variations exist on some of the myths.
The point is that a multitude of virgin myths existed at the time the stories were written about Jesus, so it is hardly original source material.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
What is the “Plurality of the gods?” Sorry, there are schisms within Cristianity, and then there’s going completely off the reservation. [/quote]
That’s like saying Hansel and Gretel is fact because it involves real children, compared to Henny Penny, which involves a talking chicken.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I asked where they go, not a piece of scripture that talks about flesh and spirit pulled out of context.[/quote]
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Whenever someone from a different Christian faith interprets a biblical passage differently from your particular brand, it MUST be due to taking the scripture out of context.
Dude, you’re missing the forest for the trees. Instead of questioning whether something is in or out of context, you should ask whether the book itself is comprised of a bunch of fairy tales.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Dude, you’re copying and pasting stuff without double checking. Admit it, man.
Lol, I pulled references to virgin births from Wiki, which noted that different variations exist on some of the myths.
The point is that a multitude of virgin myths existed at the time the stories were written about Jesus, so it is hardly original source material.
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And I posted the actual circumstances of these “virgin births.” The ones I double checked weren’t even “virgin births.” Some didn’t even involve virgins. Your similarities are similar to fantasies about, and excuse my language, popping some virgin’s cherry. Except, instead of some pimply faced adolescent, or sports car driving middle-aged male, we have Zeus.