My knee’s still acting weird and gimpy, but on the bright side my left knee’s getting rest as a byproduct. RE upper-DB floor press 30’sx10,50’sx8,70’sx6,90’sx3x10,10,10 cable rows 180x4x10’s gym was super busy, so I couldn’t superset back movements today.
Reverse preachers 3x6,6,6 + db skullcrushers’40’sx3x12,12,11. Obviosly ditched the hangclean and press due to the knee. Gonna try some bodyweight or light squats manana just to see how it feels.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I’m a Houston boy born and bred, so I’m basiclly required by law to support the Rockets. I’m still not sold on the Artest move, but if he can keep his head out of his ass long enough to be productive I think they can make some noise.
I know it’s super early, but I got the Lakers winning the whole thing. Their only real oppostion out west would be a Rockets team that’s firing on all cylinders. Out east aside from the Celts, I still contend that a healthy Wizards squad would be hard to handle.[/quote]
Man, tough loss by the Rockets last night to the Blazers. Crazy finish. I think the Artest move is great IF (and it’s a big if) he can keep his attitude in check. Superb defender and good outside shooter. But for now, we’ll wait and see how long it is before he blows up. Rockets have a solid team top to bottom.
Lakers look good. Bynum staying healthy is the key for them to go all the way. You are definitely being safe in your assumption, they look really good so far.
A Rockets team that’s healthy and playing top level ball will be tough to beat. The Wizards staying healthy and getting full production from their whole team is their key to success.
Side note: going to the Thunder game next Wednesday vs. the Magic. Should be fun. I’m interested in seeing how big Dwight Howard really is in person. I’ve seen Shaq up close and that man is a monster.
Good progress bro, hope your knee gets better soon.
Man, tough loss by the Rockets last night to the Blazers. Crazy finish. I think the Artest move is great IF (and it’s a big if) he can keep his attitude in check. Superb defender and good outside shooter.
But for now, we’ll wait and see how long it is before he blows up. Rockets have a solid team top to bottom.
Lakers look good. Bynum staying healthy is the key for them to go all the way. You are definitely being safe in your assumption, they look really good so far.
A Rockets team that’s healthy and playing top level ball will be tough to beat. The Wizards staying healthy and getting full production from their whole team is their key to success.
Side note: going to the Thunder game next Wednesday vs. the Magic. Should be fun. I’m interested in seeing how big Dwight Howard really is in person. I’ve seen Shaq up close and that man is a monster.
Good progress bro, hope your knee gets better soon.[/quote]
I watched the last few minutes of that game. That was an awesome finish. A healthy and cohesive Rockets squad is the Lakers only comp out west. The last few years the Wiz have had shitty luck, and Arenas being out again shows the trend ain’t changing any time soon.
What’re they listing Howard at now? He’s gotta be at least 275. People don’t understand how big these dudes are. Someone who’s 6’3" 205 holds it completely differently than someone who’s 5’10" 205. They list Arenas around 6’3" 205, and that sounds kinda slim [or at least lean]. I’ve stood next to him.
He’s not jacked, but he’s not thin either. His shoulders are probably as wide as your average door frame, and he’s got some decent arm size as well. Those that call these guys “thin” are misguided.
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ME upper- CG bench-95x10,135x8,185x5,225x3,235x3,245x3. Db hammer grip inc 90’sx3x6 wide grip pull-ups 3x12,12,8 + straight arm pulldowns 3x12,12,8 strict db curls 35’sx3x10,8,8 flew through this workout, after the pressing took no more than 90 sec rest on everything. My heart felt like it was gonna jump outta my chest.
My knee’s still gimpy, but the swelling’s going down and it’s feeling better. Gonna do some kind of lower work manana, just not sure what.
Yeah with Agent Zero being out seriously hurts the Wizards chances of advancing far in the playoffs, even though Jamison is legit.
ESPN lists Superman at 265, but he’s got those broad shoulders so it makes him look much bigger. I agree the way guys carry their weight very much differently. I’ve met Desmond Mason before, and even though he appears thin on TV, he was very muscular and broad shouldered in person. I think there is a mis-perception that all basketball players are skinny and have no muscle mass. Although I’m sure Kevin Durant will appear that way in person because he’s super skinny.
I’ve stood within 5 feet of Shaq, and that’s just not a fair comparison, he’s just HUGE, no getting around that. He even makes Dwight Howard look small.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I watched the last few minutes of that game. That was an awesome finish. A healthy and cohesive Rockets squad is the Lakers only comp out west. The last few years the Wiz have had shitty luck, and Arenas being out again shows the trend ain’t changing any time soon.
What’re they listing Howard at now? He’s gotta be at least 275. People don’t understand how big these dudes are. Someone who’s 6’3" 205 holds it completely differently than someone who’s 5’10" 205. They list Arenas around 6’3" 205, and that sounds kinda slim [or at least lean]. I’ve stood next to him.
He’s not jacked, but he’s not thin either. His shoulders are probably as wide as your average door frame, and he’s got some decent arm size as well. Those that call these guys “thin” are misguided.[/quote]
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Yeah with Agent Zero being out seriously hurts the Wizards chances of advancing far in the playoffs, even though Jamison is legit.
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ESPN lists Superman at 265, but he’s got those broad shoulders so it makes him look much bigger. I agree the way guys carry their weight very much differently. I’ve met Desmond Mason before, and even though he appears thin on TV, he was very muscular and broad shouldered in person. I think there is a mis-perception that all basketball players are skinny and have no muscle mass. Although I’m sure Kevin Durant will appear that way in person because he’s super skinny.
I’ve stood within 5 feet of Shaq, and that’s just not a fair comparison, he’s just HUGE, no getting around that. He even makes Dwight Howard look small.
Howard has to be bigger than that. He’s pretty damn solid, and he’s 7ft tall. Between those two factors I’d be willing to bet he’s heavier than 265. Durant’s a stringbean, but jesus can he put the ball in the hole. Man, as much as I was ragging on Westbrook after the pick, I gotta say I like the dude’s game. Athletic, aggressive on both ends of the floor, intense. I’m gonna eat my words, the guy’s gonna be an all-star at some point.
Went to the gym and wanted to shoot around before I did some kind of leg work and wound up playing for about 2 hrs. My right knee felt fine surprisingly, but my left just keeps acting goofy. Even so, I was jumping like I haven’t in probably a year or more. In between games I was dunking over and over with little effort, and I never felt like I ran out of gas. Maybe the rest worked?
After playing did cleans from the pins about an inch above my knees 185x5x3. These are way harder than “free” hangcleans. Leg curls 110lbsx3x6 + standing calves stackx3x6. Ab superset. Gonna stretch and do some foam rolling and catch some z’s. My girl and I both have the day off manana, so gonna be productive in a whole 'nother way. Ya’ll be good.
Are the cleans from the pins harder because when you pull it off the pins, does it become unbalanced somewhat, then you have to regain the balance of the bar then clean it? Just wondering.
Nice job on the springs, that’s some mad rise, son.
Yeah the more I watch Westbrook, the better he looks. I was suspect of the pic at first, but he was the Freshman Pac-10 POY, and he played for UCLA, so he’s got game. Apparently, Watson isn’t happy because of the Westbrook pick and he wants out. Rumor (read: very slim chance) that a Watson-Matrix trade happens, with other guys involved of course, but Matrix will be a free agent after this year, and it’s a slim chance he re-signs with the Thunder, if he even goes there in the first place.
Sorry I have to ask a dumb question: is the upper body training affecting your jumper in any way, good or bad?
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Are the cleans from the pins harder because when you pull it off the pins, does it become unbalanced somewhat, then you have to regain the balance of the bar then clean it? Just wondering.
Nice job on the springs, that’s some mad rise, son.
Yeah the more I watch Westbrook, the better he looks. I was suspect of the pic at first, but he was the Freshman Pac-10 POY, and he played for UCLA, so he’s got game. Apparently, Watson isn’t happy because of the Westbrook pick and he wants out. Rumor (read: very slim chance) that a Watson-Matrix trade happens, with other guys involved of course, but Matrix will be a free agent after this year, and it’s a slim chance he re-signs with the Thunder, if he even goes there in the first place.
Sorry I have to ask a dumb question: is the upper body training affecting your jumper in any way, good or bad?[/quote]
Man, I honestly don’t know why they’re harder from the pins. All I know is I can “free” hangclean 225 for 3, but 205 for 3 off the pins is pretty much a no go. I’m sure it has to do with momentum in some way. When I clean from the pins, the bar is resting completely, but when I do it from the hang I can dip and explode. That’s the only thing I can come up with. Thanks for the compliment, but my knee’s been bitching at me all day so I’m paying for it.
I haven’t heard that rumor. How does that work, and who else would be involved? I guess Marion’s somewhat expendable with Beasley there, but as a straight up deal the Thunder are raping the Heat. Also, where would you play Marion in OKC? At the 4? I’m pretty sure they’re grooming Green as their 3 of the future, so it wouldn’t make sense to add Marion unless he was part of the deal. That’s an interesting proposed deal. If you have any more info fill me in.
The only way it’s affected my J is added range. I can shoot 30 footers with ease. Making 'em is a whole other story, but I can get 'em up with no problem. In all seriousness I think if you’re training for strength as opposed to “bodybuilding” training and getting some shots up a few times a week you’ll be fine. I will say that shooting a day after upper training is pretty humbling.
Hangclean and press 95x5,135x5,165x6,185x5,205x5 close grip incline 185x4x6 never tried these before and am tired of floor presses, so wanted to see what they were like. Awesome. Had 8 or so on any given set.
Gonna up it 'til I get 4x10 at 185. Cable rows 190x4x10 + standing scarecrows 4x10. Preachers 3x6,5,5. After the incline went to the bench and did 135x20 close grip. No tri work tonight. Gonna go grab a beer with a coupla buddies. I’ll holler.
Yeah I figured it would be harder from the pins. From the hang, you get some momentum, from the pins there is nothing, and I would think it would be tricky initially to pull from the pins because of balance.
I’m not for sure who else would be involved, but I’m not a big fan of the trade. If Jeff Green is involved, then that would suck for the Thunder, because they would be giving away a young developing player for a guy who would play half a season then probably sign somewhere else next year.
He would probably have to play the 4, but if he plays there, Collison gets the boot. Durant is more of a swing guard, and usually plays the 2, but it would be a good team though with Westbrook, Mason, Durant, Green, and Marion, but I’m not holding my breath. But yeah, straight up, Thunder get the better deal. If anything else comes up, I’ll let you know. You never know with rumors how much cred is in them.
Went to the Thunder/Magic game on Wednesday, man it was rough. Durant didn’t play because of a bad ankle, and neither did Chris Wilcox. We were down 20-28 points the whole game and lost 109-92. Also, I am entirely convinced that Dwight Howard is not human. I think he has an animal chromosome in him. Had 30/19/10 blocks(!) for his first career triple-double. Beast.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
tmoney1 wrote:
Man, I honestly don’t know why they’re harder from the pins. All I know is I can “free” hangclean 225 for 3, but 205 for 3 off the pins is pretty much a no go.
I’m sure it has to do with momentum in some way. When I clean from the pins, the bar is resting completely, but when I do it from the hang I can dip and explode. That’s the only thing I can come up with. Thanks for the compliment, but my knee’s been bitching at me all day so I’m paying for it.
I haven’t heard that rumor. How does that work, and who else would be involved? I guess Marion’s somewhat expendable with Beasley there, but as a straight up deal the Thunder are raping the Heat.
Also, where would you play Marion in OKC? At the 4? I’m pretty sure they’re grooming Green as their 3 of the future, so it wouldn’t make sense to add Marion unless he was part of the deal. That’s an interesting proposed deal. If you have any more info fill me in.
The only way it’s affected my J is added range. I can shoot 30 footers with ease. Making 'em is a whole other story, but I can get 'em up with no problem. In all seriousness I think if you’re training for strength as opposed to “bodybuilding” training and getting some shots up a few times a week you’ll be fine. I will say that shooting a day after upper training is pretty humbling.
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Started Cressey’s “Maximum strength” tonight. Just felt like trying something different I guess. Did the foam rolling and mobility work at the house, than drove to the gym [5 minutes away]. He recommends 1.5 shoulder width on bench, but that kills my shoulders so I went 2 finger spaces inside the rings. 5x4-245x2x4,235x3x4 He say’s go as heavy as possible on all sets, so next week I’ll jump to 250 for the first set.
Nuetral inc db 75’sx3x10,10,9. was supposed to be 3 sets of 10 but I gassed on that lest set. Supersetted with cable over hand rows 4x10’s at 170 [super strict], then prone trap raises supersetted with lying external rotations. Finished with side bridges. Took right at an hour. Was fun, and I’d never done anything like ptr’s or bridges. Probably gonna wait until Wed to do lower. I really like the outline of this program, and am looking forward to seeing what I get out of it.
[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
Yeah I figured it would be harder from the pins. From the hang, you get some momentum, from the pins there is nothing, and I would think it would be tricky initially to pull from the pins because of balance.
I’m not for sure who else would be involved, but I’m not a big fan of the trade. If Jeff Green is involved, then that would suck for the Thunder, because they would be giving away a young developing player for a guy who would play half a season then probably sign somewhere else next year.
He would probably have to play the 4, but if he plays there, Collison gets the boot. Durant is more of a swing guard, and usually plays the 2, but it would be a good team though with Westbrook, Mason, Durant, Green, and Marion, but I’m not holding my breath. But yeah, straight up, Thunder get the better deal. If anything else comes up, I’ll let you know. You never know with rumors how much cred is in them.
Went to the Thunder/Magic game on Wednesday, man it was rough. Durant didn’t play because of a bad ankle, and neither did Chris Wilcox. We were down 20-28 points the whole game and lost 109-92. Also, I am entirely convinced that Dwight Howard is not human. I think he has an animal chromosome in him. Had 30/19/10 blocks(!) for his first career triple-double. Beast.
T, I hope that’s some Pete Vescey level bullshit 'cause that would ruin the next few years for your boys. The only thing that makes sense is if they’re trying to clear their books and make a run at someone, but nobody’s gonna want to play there until they start winning.
He was before my time, but from clips Durant reminds me of George Gervin. If he gets a bit stronger and refines his game he’ll spend a decade contending for scoring champ. Looking at 'em, your squad has potential to be something in a couple of years. They need to not break 'em up and add a few pieces, but the future’s bright out there.
Howard is a beast. With the lack of any true centers in the league, he has a chance to put up some silly #'s from time to time. I know you saw the last guy to put up #'s like that was Olajuwon, who did it twice with BETTER stats. All hail the Dream!!!
HAHA Peter Vescey, love live the Boston turtleneck. Yeah it would be a huge bummer for the team, I oppose the trade because I’m not willing to give away young talent for a guy who’s has somewhat leveled off. Yeah, unless we start winning, no one will want to play here. I envision us being like the Hawks: not so good for a few years, keep getting lottery picks, turn into a good young team. Within five years, we’ll make the playoffs.
I’m really happy with our young nucleus. Durant is a scoring machine, and Westbrook and Green show signs of greatness, so I’m happy with our squad, but the main thing is keeping them together.
Iceman was before my time too, but man, he was fun to watch. He was a very fluid player, and the finger roll was sweet to watch (he invented it, so naturally, it was his bread and butter).
THE DREAM!!! He was the man. I’ve met him twice, actually. Very humble man and gracious, signed autographs for everyone even though he was in a hurry to catch a flight. The Dream Shake was sick. Watching him shake David Robinson twice in one play, then hitting the layup was awesome.
Nice job by your Rockets beating us yesterday in OKC. What’s the status on T-Mac’s knee?
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
T, I hope that’s some Pete Vescey level bullshit 'cause that would ruin the next few years for your boys. The only thing that makes sense is if they’re trying to clear their books and make a run at someone, but nobody’s gonna want to play there until they start winning.
He was before my time, but from clips Durant reminds me of George Gervin. If he gets a bit stronger and refines his game he’ll spend a decade contending for scoring champ. Looking at 'em, your squad has potential to be something in a couple of years. They need to not break 'em up and add a few pieces, but the future’s bright out there.
Howard is a beast. With the lack of any true centers in the league, he has a chance to put up some silly #'s from time to time. I know you saw the last guy to put up #'s like that was Olajuwon, who did it twice with BETTER stats. All hail the Dream!!![/quote]
How are you liking EC’s Maximum Strength?
Tonight was only my second workout, but I’ve already done five different movements that I’ve never tried. I love it.
Tonight was lower, box squats. Used a box that was mid calf height, so no more than a foot high. 5x4-225x4,245x2x4,245x3,235x3 could’ve gone heavier on the first set of 245. Form blew out on the third rep of the last two sets, so called 'em. Jesus christ these were tough! I’ve only box squatted maybe five times, and never used a box that low. If I can get strong at these I KNOW my free squat will blow up. Speed deads at 40% of max 185x8x2. Walking db lunges 50’sx4x8. Could’ve gone heavier than this, but was starting to fade.
Reverse crunches and bridges. This was easily one of the toughest workouts I’ve ever done. I’m definitely gonna have to up my cals to make it through this program. So far, I’m really enjoying what it has me doing. I might be singing a different tune in a couple of months…
Upper tonight on Cressey’s MS program. Was still pretty sore from Monday’s benchpress bonanza. Everything is supersetted-one arm db pushpress 65x6,70x6,75x6,80x6 weighted close grip chins 45x6,50x6,55x2x6 didn’t know where to start with either of these, so just added 'til they were apppropriately heavy.
Db rows 90’sx3x8 push-ups. The program just say’s push-ups for this phase [band push-ups are later] but I didn’t know if I was supposed to add weight or what, so I did 3x10 with two plates stacked on my back.
Even with the 90lbs, they were still pretty smooth. Might add another plate. external rotations + side bridges. This workout took less than 40 minutes.
Cressey says to use as much weight with good form as possible to reach your target reps, so I’m gonna start heavier next time around. I’m doing Thanksgiving early on Saturday with my girl and her family, which happens to fall on my lower day. I am going to fucking wreck that Turkey. I’ll holler.
Did lower last night. Felt like shit all day. Did an early Thanskgiving at my girls folks 'til 9pm or so and got to the gym around 10:30. Got halfway through the workout and called it. Thought I was gonna yack all over the gym, but didn’t. Feel much better today, and am ready to kill it manana.
Bench 250x3,240x4,235x2x4 the first set was suppoed to be 4. The weight was moving smooth 'til halfway up on my 3rd rep I got the hamstring cramp from hell. Had to kick my legs out and it took everything I had to get that 3rd rep, so I racked it. Was really gay, but oh well. Supersets from here on out- db nuetral inc 75’sx3x9 medium grip cable rows 180x4x9 prone trap raises 3x12 lying external rotations 3x12. Bummed about the gayness of the first set, but that’s just the way it goes I guess. Gotta work all day manana, but gonna play ball in the evening.
LOWWWWWWWWW box squats-135x5,185x4,225x2,working sets- 255x4,245x2x4,3 235x4 Was supposed to be 4x4, but almost shit myself on the 3rd rep of my second set at 245. No jokes! Made sure I was “clean” and dropped it by 10lbs to get the next set. Was supposed to use 205 for last week on speed deads. Screwed my math up. Oh well. Tonight did 55% 225x8x2. Walking lunges 3x8 a 50lb db’s core stuff.
Next week is 8x3 on box squats. Gonna start with 265 and work my way up/down to get my #'s. Today’s 255 felt much smoother than last weeks 245. I’m a week and a half in and can honestly say I don’t know if I’ve ever worked harder in the weightroom. This program is badass.