Who doesn’t do that? Trump doesn’t do that? Why is it wrong when she does it?
You do it with your white people are in danger position.
I have stated from the outset that humans are innately tribal.
Omar does that for her own benefit and for the benefit of her ‘tribe’/group/people she relates to.
It is natural behaviour.
My point has been repeatedly that this is why nations exist in the first place. There are evolutionary reasons for in group bias. It is natural.
In which case, why should America, a nation created by whites for whites, allow an unlimited amount of other groups into the nation? It will clearly lead to conflict.
Already, a Presidential candidate is referring to ‘war.’ What will it be like in 30 years if there are another 40 million non white citizens here?
America was not created for whites. It wasn’t created by whites as the Africans who were here didn’t sit around collecting welfare.
America has already let in people from other groups. It has done so for its entire existence. So the question isn’t why should we let these people in but why we should stop letting these people in. What has changed?
America was created by white for whites. The 1790 Naturalisation Act explicitly states that citizens are to be white. The country has been 95% white for almost its entire existence.
I feel I have made my point on your question.
The 1965 Immigration Act is what changed the demographics of America. Since then, there has been a rapid decline in the white majority. This is leading to an inevitable and ever decreasing minority, only speeded up by ‘open borders’ and unlimited immigration rhetoric.
By no means has America:
- let in “different groups for its entire existence.”
- the rate (multiple millions per year) of out group immigrants arriving in the nation, is utterly unprecedented in all history of any nation, never mind simply America.
You should go backpacking in Iran. Quick cure for your self loathing
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It states a little more than that and doesn’t account for the blacks who were already here, free or enslaved, as well as the children of mixed relationships (Jefferson’s children with Sally Hemings, for example).
This is untrue and you should provide a source. According to the Census blacks were more than 5% in 1776.
No, you haven’t.
Really? Then explain the Chinese, Italians, Irish, German, Polish, Japanese, etc., who all came after 1776. Did your ancestors come after 1776?
That’s a term which is determined by perspective.
And, it’s back…
I do not see a benefit in having a back and forth over the exact percentage of whites at any one stage, as my point is that the nation was overwhelming white for the entire time, which is indisputable.
I accept I have exaggerated. Whites were 80%+ in 1776, rising to over 90% by the mid 20th century.
The country was literally created by white people, by definition. The Founding Fathers were all white. The Constitution was written by whites. Laws were put into place, from the outset, that the nation was to be for white citizens.
As for the other point on letting in out groups for its entire existence, almost every single one of the groups you listed were European white Christian nations. They were not out groups. America was created for these people.
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And again, letting in a few thousand Japanese etc over time, doesn’t compare to the annual multiple millions who are arriving every single year now.
The thing about the IQ score that was brought up earlier for Somalians, is that it was based on an estimate as the researchers who published that number in their book, never gave a Somali an IQ test. For some countries they based their IQ averages on a sample of 100 people. This isn’t fake news on my part as it is all in their book.
Then don’t bring up numbers if you aren’t prepared to have them challenged and possibly proven wrong.
I guess all those slaves contributed nothing.
Actually, that is not true. Free blacks could even vote in North Carolina. In fact, many poor whites could not vote because they didn’t own property.
Tell a Protestant in America at that time that a Catholic from Ireland is not an out group.
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I don’t want to sound like a jerk but you should probably not comment on history as you don’t seem to have a deep understanding of it. Your comments on Haiti showed that.
You are missing my point about the creation of America.
I have not and am not suggesting blacks have contributed “nothing.”
I am stating that the entire concept of the creation of the American nation, is one thought up by a group of white people.
Prior to this, it was just a land mass.
We can return to Haiti if you like.
It has been independent for 200+ years.
Why is it such an abject failure?
It seems the consensus is the IQ of Somalia is not 68, but “close to 80.”
This does not change my point that the average IQ of Somalians is the reason the country is in a state of perpetual mayhem.
“In light of all the available IQ data of over 37,000 African testtakers, only the use of unsystematic methods to exclude the vast majority of data could result in a mean IQ close to 70. On the basis of sound methods, the average IQ remains close to 80. Although this mean IQ is clearly lower than 100, we view it as unsurprising in light of the potential of the Flynn effect in Africa (Wicherts, Borsboom, & Dolan, 2010) and common psychometric problems associated with the use of western IQ tests among Africans.”[15]
Yes, you have.
And? If it weren’t for the Greeks there would have been no America as we know it. Should the Greeks get mad that non Greeks appropriated their intellectual property? The history of the world is one of borrowing, sharing and stealing. Why do we use Arabic numerals? Why do we have astronomy? Paper? Gunpowder? Why does English derive the majority of its words from French and not Saxon? Why did Shakespeare base some plays on works written by the ancient Romans?
You will find no reference to me saying blacks have contributed nothing.
As to your second point. This is like many of your previous responses to my statements of facts.
I am making the factual statement - whites thought up the concept of America and turned it from a land mass into a nation.
Your response to this is simply not relevant at all to my statement.
It is similar to many of my statements, of fact, about black crime for example.
That is your opinion but doesn’t explain why supposedly higher IQ peoples have been behind things like the Holocaust. Also, it hasn’t always been in a state of perpetual mayhem.
Portugal was once a wealthy and powerful empire. It has since declined, significantly. But we know that the average IQ in Portugal has probably gone up since 1500. IQ goes up as the nation gets poorer? So how do we explain this reversal in fortune if we base our thinking on the idea that declining IQ is the cause of poverty. Are we to think that Portugal lost its empire because the Portuguese got dumber?
Who thought of the concept of nation? Using your logic I could say that WASPs created America for WASPs and everyone else need not apply. You also ignored the fact that the Founders did indeed allow blacks to be citizens. This kind of throws a wrench in your theory.
- I didn’t say it has always been in a state of perpetual mayhem.
- Your comments on both the Holocaust and Portugal bear no connection to my argument regarding Somalian intelligence levels.
My point about Somalia, and almost every black majority society is this.
I ACCEPT that issues such as racism and slavery and other socioeconomic factors can and almost certain have or are still having an effect on the problems facing black societies.
However, I believe the overriding issue is the inherent lower intelligence level of black people in comparison to other races. I do not believe they are “inferior” in some sort of moral way or anything like that. I see all humans as being of equal value, but that doesn’t mean all humans or human groups are identical.
But I do believe this is the most obvious and overriding explanation for the failures of their societies and for the levels of entrenched poverty and violence in their communities.