Why would anyone care about gay marriage? People love to worry about things that are none of their business, and really have zero impact on their lives, because it keeps them from facing the irrelevance and misery of their own existence and instead direct it at others. You agree, right?
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I donāt. But, wrong thread.
Well 28% of traffic fatalities last year were caused by impaired drivers. Which means the majority 72% were stone-cold sober. Whatās the real problem here?
Hey @marine77, I hope you choose to stick around PWI for a while. You bring an interesting perspective. We need more diversity in thought here.
I agree, itās none of my damn business.
Itās troubling to me. Not that itās reflective of black people, just that the areas with heavier distr of black people tend to be higher crime. We see evidence of that in many shapes and sizes.
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A LOT, @patā¦especially if itās either a skewed and/or outright false statistic.
If untrue, itās the type of thing that incites peoples passions and/or solidifies peoples prejudices.
I just want to know how true it is.
There is no way to know this because it is not the case here. It could be better, worse or the same, but itās all hypothetical.
ugh, I meant to say āwho is the real problem here?ā By statistics alone, sober drivers account for the vast majority of fatal accidents. And it was a little quip.
If black people make up a disproportionate amount of the violent crime against the police, then it something certainly worth drilling down on as to why that is the case.
But it does have to be done in a dry, emotionless way so that the facts can speak for themselves. There could be a myriad of reasons for it. Not all of them being that blacks are more violent or that police target blacks more often and hence have more violent encounters by a race of people who feel caged by āthe manā.
The nature of statistics is to inform, post hoc. To explain the data. Too many times people use stats ad hoc to support a prejudice they may hold. Which often involves the absence of counter factual data.
So we agree, all the data needs to be looked at. Then it needs to be broken down into more intricate data.
So if itās true that 44% of violent encounters with police happen with black people, then what is being considered a violent encounter? Where is the data being gathered? What are the standard deviations of the data? Are we talking about New Orleans or Kansas City? Lots of questions that number alone cannot tell us.
And obviously, 56% of violent police encounters are not with black people.
Considering the comparatively low population number of black suspectsā¦ That numbers not troubling to you ? Youāre not well versed in analyzing statistics I see
Iāve been a T-Nation follower for years, but ādebatingā people is tedious and not worth the time, usually.
They are not all debates, sometimes just conversations. But I tell you what I get out of it. I get to do all my politics and religion bits out, all I want and leave them here. I feel no need to vent in public or have uncomfortable discussions. I get it out and in real life, I feel no need to have a political discussion. So that when someone says something thatās politically uncomfortable to me, I can just smile and nod and not engage, because I have already engaged the subjects to death here.
So itās kind of like a pressure release valve. The pressure is let out and I have no need for people to see it my way in a place where it would not be in my best interest to give my honest opinion, say like workā¦
So have Iā¦and I agreeā¦
I can understand that, but to me itās indicative of people that have no concept of personal accountability, reality or anything outside of debunked narratives and hyperbolic nonsense. I despise these intellectual cowards and it only reaffirms these cretins are among us. In my opinion the left, left unchecked, will destroy this country like the cancer they are.
IF true and not skewed in some way, yesā¦the numbers are troubling.
Differences of opinion are completely fine. Itās when people refuse to accept demonstrable proof, reality and verifiable facts that it becomes a lesson in futility.
Got itā¦
And when it comes to living in poverty or in crime ridden neighborhoods, are blacks disproportionately represented? Does that not trouble you?
Itās per the FBI U.C.R. Those number are not manipulated or skewed in any fashion.
Until people can just accept uncomfortable truths weāll never progress.
When I hear of a school shooting my first thought is some disgruntled white kid. Itās not an indictment of all whites any more so than the black crime rate is of blacks.
We must roundly condemn unacceptable and poor behavior ethnicity be damned.
Unfortunately the left demands we see race first and behavior second.
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Sorryā¦ that shit doesnāt fly. Poverty is very subjective and doesnāt excuse killing each over trivialities. Youāre exercising soft bigotry with your low expectations.
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