[quote]Bullmoose wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
there is a double standard in these country, the only safe scapegoat is a white christian heterosexual male.
i am not “white” nor am i a “white apologist” as Carlos Mencina would say.
so i don’t give a fuck about what “your people” have been through, you insult me to my face and we are going to tangle. period.
IMO white people have let themselves feel guilty to the point that they are now intimidated into standing up for themselves.
i feel the same way about a white person who lets some black guy call him “white-boy” as i do about a black person who lets a white person call him “the N word”. they both are pussies and full of self hatred.
black people started to stand up for themselves and quit taking the racial crap long time ago, to the point if a white person said that word in mixed company, there is going to be an ugly fight. until white folks do the same get used to being called “hillbilly” cracker, white-boy, whatever.
Funny thing about what the Irishman is writing is that nobody reads it. They just see that he’s not “standing up for his right not to be a cracker” or something, then say, “Fuck you and what your people have been through, I never did nothin’ and I won’t fel guilty.”
He hasn’t accused anybody here of doing anything, and I don’t think he’s saying anybody should feel guilty. He’s trying to help everyone to understand where this comes from.
The things that “their people” (our people, I guess) went through were harsh, but right now black people are going through things that you don’t realize. It’s not the same as just hearing stories about what happened to your family back in the day, it’s hearing those stories and seeing that it’s still affecting you, and not knowing what to do about it.
Obviously, the way black culture is going now isn’t the right thing to do about it. Calling white people “cracker” doesn’t help, but if you didn’t know how to get out, and you were seeing this everyday, you’d be pretty pissed, too.
The solution, as I see it, is to “beat the man at his own game”, meaning get your ass to school, get a good job, and work your way up, so that eventually, the power is more evenly distributed (I’m not saying try to take over, either, just get involved). That’s easy to say, for me, but tough to do for someone who has grown up in the ghetto.
Problem is, people tend to learn their habits from their parents. Most freed slaves were uneducated, angry, and didn’t know how to organize themselves to move up. Nobody helped them, or taught them, so their kids became that way, too, and so on until you get to what we have now. Angry black kids who don’t know how to get themselves out of their situation, but have a general idea of who put them in that situation in the first place. No, you never owned a slave, and no, you probably aren’t part of a conspiracy to keep them down, but they’re angry, and they don’t know the way out.
Middle-class black people, and those lucky enough to find a role model or mentor and pull themselves up, don’t generally go around calling people cracker or white boy. But they tend to be ignored when the subject of race relations comes up. All black people are gang bangers, single mothers, and drug dealers, right? And all racist towards white people.[/quote]
haha, so YOU are going to tell ME i don’t know how it is to be black in tis country? maybe not, i don’t, but get this. i was married to a black woman, and have two multiracial daughters. i am of Cuban heritage, and if you know anything about Cubans, you would know that Cubans are among the most racially diverse people on the planet. we are a mixture of European, south American, and African genes. my grandfather had blond hair and blue eyes, and i have cousins as dark as Wesley snipes.
i think it is funny how if unless you are a “white apologist” or “black” people automatically think they can make assumptions about who you are and where you come from.
i was raised by two illiterate poor parents and grew up in government subsidized housing. i am not saying it is not tough to be black in this country, half of my extended family is black, what iam saying is i don’t impress easy, as i had to overcome some stuff to.
