Which Bench Press Title is More Presitigious?

Training Powerlifting
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[quote]powerhouse reno wrote:
The heck with the IPF, most of the lifts done there for their third attempt are weights they could do for a triple or double in the gym, and this is because of the ridicuious judging. Besides not one of the top benchers in the IPF could hold a candle to Kennelly, Frankl, Kellum, Luyando, Meeker, and Wong.

Just as a reminder Brain Siders got his butt handed to him by Ryan a couple of years ago.

The biggest bench meets now are the invitationals that offer money, it is the money that brings out the big dogs.

George [/quote]

Well there’s a quick way to ruin a thread: by being an idiot.

First off, not one of the lifters you mentioned could hold a candle to the IPF lifters UNDER IPF CIRCUMSTANCES. Apples and oranges. Just because american lifters are hitting big numbers in their own federations doesn’t mean the rest of the world isn’t hitting big numbers in the IPF, you’re just ignorant to it.

If you seriously think that the US has a monopoly on the strongest benchers, or any strength sport for that matter, then you’re truly ignorant. It’s not that the US is best in benching it’s just that we are the ONLY country that takes organizations like the WPO, etc seriously.

Siders competes single ply, drug tested, and is a full powerlifter and strongman competitor. Kennely is a non-tested multiply bench specialist. How you compare the 2 I don’t know. While Kennely is training his bench press, Siders is training atlas stones, DEEP squats, deadlifts, farmers carries, etc. Again, apples and oranges.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:

Man, I feel like I am over on Outlaws or PLWatch right now with this crap.
[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing. First I have to see the:

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

that follows EVERY SINGLE plwatch post, and then we get the “my way is the only way” idiots.

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[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
apwsearch wrote:

Man, I feel like I am over on Outlaws or PLWatch right now with this crap.

I was thinking the same thing. First I have to see the:

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

that follows EVERY SINGLE plwatch post, [/quote]

I noticed that you didn’t say this comment on my sponsor site WBB!!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I noticed that you didn’t say this comment on my sponsor site WBB!!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

[/quote]

Because I don’t feel the need to. If you want, I’ll do it, but that tread doesn’t feel like PLWatch so it would be out of context.

I like you, and appreciate what you are doing for drug free PL, but copying and pasting that over and over again HAS to get old.

However, it is funny that you mention they’re your sponsor, because I WAS going to post that you forgot to mention who your sponsors are, which you also seem to do in every post, but this wouldn’t have served any purpose.

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[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I noticed that you didn’t say this comment on my sponsor site WBB!!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

I like you, and appreciate what you are doing for drug free PL, but copying and pasting that over and over again HAS to get old.
[/quote]

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help other lifters reach their goals and promote my sponsors. I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help promote my sponsors. [/quote]

REally??? Never would have guessed.

[quote]I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

[/quote]

Not for you anyway.

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help promote my sponsors.

REally??? Never would have guessed.

I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

Not for you anyway.[/quote]

You talk a lot of smack, but your bench press can’t touch mine son! You bench press around 180 kg in the 100kg class @ Jan 2008 IDFPA National?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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I believe IPF World Bp Title is the best title, but that’s just my opinion. Also, I respect everybody else opinion too.

NASA & USAPL offer great Pro meets too.

The goal of this post was to develop positive conversation among fellow lifters, not personal attacks on another lifters.

Thanks to all who posted positive comments!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help promote my sponsors.

REally??? Never would have guessed.

I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

Not for you anyway.

You talk a lot of smack, but your bench press can’t touch mine son! You bench press around 180 kg in the 100kg class @ Jan 2008 IDFPA National?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

[/quote]

How’s your squat and deadlift? You keep claiming to be a powerlifter, but I haven’t seen you do a meet.

FTR, I’m 21 and only competiting two years, so I reckon I have some time to catch up.

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help promote my sponsors.

REally??? Never would have guessed.

I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

Not for you anyway.

You talk a lot of smack, but your bench press can’t touch mine son! You bench press around 180 kg in the 100kg class @ Jan 2008 IDFPA National?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

How’s your squat and deadlift? You keep claiming to be a powerlifter, but I haven’t seen you do a meet.

FTR, I’m 21 and only competiting two years, so I reckon I have some time to catch up.[/quote]

When I was 23, I bench press 385 raw @ body weight of 165. Don’t use age for an excuse. If you need help with your bench press, just ask?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help promote my sponsors.

REally??? Never would have guessed.

I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

Not for you anyway.

You talk a lot of smack, but your bench press can’t touch mine son! You bench press around 180 kg in the 100kg class @ Jan 2008 IDFPA National?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

How’s your squat and deadlift? You keep claiming to be a powerlifter, but I haven’t seen you do a meet.

FTR, I’m 21 and only competiting two years, so I reckon I have some time to catch up.

When I was 23, I bench press 385 raw @ body weight of 165. Don’t use age for an excuse. If you need help with your bench press, just ask?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

[/quote]

So your squat and deadlift…?

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help promote my sponsors.

REally??? Never would have guessed.

I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

Not for you anyway.

You talk a lot of smack, but your bench press can’t touch mine son! You bench press around 180 kg in the 100kg class @ Jan 2008 IDFPA National?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

How’s your squat and deadlift? You keep claiming to be a powerlifter, but I haven’t seen you do a meet.

FTR, I’m 21 and only competiting two years, so I reckon I have some time to catch up.

When I was 23, I bench press 385 raw @ body weight of 165. Don’t use age for an excuse. If you need help with your bench press, just ask?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

So your squat and deadlift…?

[/quote]

It doesn’t take a genius to figure it out son! Everybody knows I only compete in bench press meets only. The information is on all my websites & sponsor sites too. That’s right, you have only been competing for 2 years. Hopefully, you’ll learn the truth and the truth will set you free(lol).

Until your shirt bp equals my raw bench press, what’s the point of this conversation(lol)

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Hanley wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:

I enjoy posting on several different forms to help promote my sponsors.

REally??? Never would have guessed.

I have been doing this for over 8 years and it will never get old!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

Not for you anyway.

You talk a lot of smack, but your bench press can’t touch mine son! You bench press around 180 kg in the 100kg class @ Jan 2008 IDFPA National?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

How’s your squat and deadlift? You keep claiming to be a powerlifter, but I haven’t seen you do a meet.

FTR, I’m 21 and only competiting two years, so I reckon I have some time to catch up.

When I was 23, I bench press 385 raw @ body weight of 165. Don’t use age for an excuse. If you need help with your bench press, just ask?

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

So your squat and deadlift…?

It doesn’t take a genius to figure it out son! Everybody knows I only compete in bench press meets only. The information is on all my websites & sponsor sites too. That’s right, you have only been competing for 2 years. Hopefully, you’ll learn the truth and the truth will set you free(lol).

Until your shirt bp equals my raw bench press, what’s the point of this conversation(lol)

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

[/quote]
So you’re not a powerlifter then?

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[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Until your shirt bp equals my raw bench press, what’s the point of this conversation(lol)

[/quote]

Oh brother. This is rich.

As if you would not come back immediately and point out that fact as well and use it to deflect.

I think this is the first time I have seen a bench guy try to shame a powerlifter for his bench press. However, it is not even close to the first time I have seen a bench guy call himself a powerlifter which he is anything but.

It’s quite amusing, actually.

Believe it or not, there are some of us who think the bench is the nap between the squat and the deadlift.

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“Big Wille” - You’re a one trick pony. Why insult a real powerlifter? Your internet whoring is tiresome enough already. Don’t be a total douche.

Anyone want to join me in boycotting Inzer?

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[quote]Ramo wrote:
“Big Wille” - You’re a one trick pony. Why insult a real powerlifter? Your internet whoring is tiresome enough already. Don’t be a total douche.

Anyone want to join me in boycotting Inzer?[/quote]

He started the negative crap! So, I’m having some fun with the total situation.

Also, nobody has ever brought this to my attention at powerlifting meets. Only a few percentage of lifters like you actually post negative post toward your fellow lifter. Majority don’t post or post with negative attacks. So, this is why I laugh at lifters that post negative attacks or hate!! It’s very easy to sit behind a keyboard and attack because you’ll probably never meet them. So, get use to my internet post because I’m not going anywhere!!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
Until your shirt bp equals my raw bench press, what’s the point of this conversation(lol)

Oh brother. This is rich.

As if you would not come back immediately and point out that fact as well and use it to deflect.

I think this is the first time I have seen a bench guy try to shame a powerlifter for his bench press. However, it is not even close to the first time I have seen a bench guy call himself a powerlifter which he is anything but.

It’s quite amusing, actually.

Believe it or not, there are some of us who think the bench is the nap between the squat and the deadlift.

[/quote]

I’m not trying to shame any lifter. I’m just making good old post just like Hanely does towards me(lol).

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]Ramo wrote:
“Big Wille” - You’re a one trick pony. Why insult a real powerlifter? Your internet whoring is tiresome enough already. Don’t be a total douche.

Anyone want to join me in boycotting Inzer?[/quote]

Ryan Kennely does:
www.inzersucks.com

Also, what difference does it make what Willie calls himself. He can call himself a bench specialist if it really makes you guys feel better. Who are any of us to judge someone for specializing? At the same time, Willie, who are you to judge Hanley for his bench pressing ability? WE ARE ALL IRON BROTHERS.

And Hanley, I’d expect this from a lot of posters, but not from you. If your problem is with Willie internet whoring, then keep it at that. I can’t stand these “he lifts she lifts” internet arguments. You’re starting to sound like the internet lifters.

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[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
Ramo wrote:
“Big Wille” - You’re a one trick pony. Why insult a real powerlifter? Your internet whoring is tiresome enough already. Don’t be a total douche.

Also, what difference does it make what Willie calls himself. He can call himself a bench specialist if it really makes you guys feel better. Who are any of us to judge someone for specializing? At the same time, Willie, who are you to judge Hanley for his bench pressing ability? WE ARE ALL IRON BROTHERS.

And Hanley, I’d expect this from a lot of posters, but not from you. If your problem is with Willie internet whoring, then keep it at that. I can’t stand these “he lifts she lifts” internet arguments. You’re starting to sound like the internet lifters.
[/quote]

Great post!!!

You are right. I apologize about my comments about his bench press. This not what I’m about. I enjoy helping lifters reach their goals & uplifting lifters. We are all iron brothers and should act like it.

I have tried to develop thick skin within 8 years, but sometimes I get a little scratch and don’t respond properly.

This post was originally about getting lifters opinion about bench press titles. I was trying to develop conversation among fellow lifters and be part of the forum. Look what direction it turned too! I understand a small percentage of lifters don’t like me, but I will defend myself at all times!

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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The all-time record is the only one that really excites me. However, I gotta respect anyone who is the best, regardless of federation.