Boris said the same when he was in Hobart - you use your real max.
You work off that max until you have correctly maxed out at the end of a peaking cycle. If at the beginning of the peaking cycle you lift 105 % of your prior max, in the next three weeks you still use the max that you had at the start of the cycle (say , set 13 weeks before the peaking cycle)
I just noticed that Boris Sheiko says that when running Sheiko programs (yes, Sheiko himself calls them “unmonitored Sheiko programs”) specifically to use a competition number as your max, and not to change the max in the program until you have a new competition (or a new max from a peaking program). So this would be a max you have peaked for, so not an everyday max or training max.
[quote]grappling_hook wrote:
I just noticed that Boris Sheiko says that when running Sheiko programs (yes, Sheiko himself calls them “unmonitored Sheiko programs”) specifically to use a competition number as your max, and not to change the max in the program until you have a new competition (or a new max from a peaking program). So this would be a max you have peaked for, so not an everyday max or training max.[/quote]
Thats cool, you dont really train under the same circumstances as Sheiko does though.
Talmant’s group did a study on over 200 lifters running the program. They progressed the most when working off a TRUE TRAINING MAX
[quote]grappling_hook wrote:
I just noticed that Boris Sheiko says that when running Sheiko programs (yes, Sheiko himself calls them “unmonitored Sheiko programs”) specifically to use a competition number as your max, and not to change the max in the program until you have a new competition (or a new max from a peaking program). So this would be a max you have peaked for, so not an everyday max or training max.[/quote]
I imagine this is from his website:
I think this is a pretty easy principle to follow. That being said, it is also stressed that, “The unmonitored programs are written without any knowledge of your physical and mental state during the month of the program. You will need to adjust these programs to suit your current health, lifestyle and capabilities.You must use a percentage of an actual result in competition.”. I think that posting these ‘unmonitored’ programs is really a ploy to get more people to actually hire him because he charges a pretty penny (400 a month I believe). Hahaha anyways…
[quote]Curls4Girls wrote:
Thats cool, you dont really train under the same circumstances as Sheiko does though.
Talmant’s group did a study on over 200 lifters running the program. They progressed the most when working off a TRUE TRAINING MAX[/quote]
So which are you considering to be a “true” training max? Something you could do any day in the gym even when tired or mid-way through a volume phase, or something you hit after running Sheiko #32 or another training program? I’m not sure whether you are saying Talmant does it the same as I mentioned or differently. Not that the minutiae really matters, I suppose; it’s easy enough to tell on day 1 if you need to back it off a bit.
For training circumstances, I don’t doubt that Sheiko has his athletes train differently than he recommends for “unmonitored” lifters on his website.
[quote]arramzy wrote:
[quote]grappling_hook wrote:
I just noticed that Boris Sheiko says that when running Sheiko programs (yes, Sheiko himself calls them “unmonitored Sheiko programs”) specifically to use a competition number as your max, and not to change the max in the program until you have a new competition (or a new max from a peaking program). So this would be a max you have peaked for, so not an everyday max or training max.[/quote]
I imagine this is from his website:
I think this is a pretty easy principle to follow. That being said, it is also stressed that, “The unmonitored programs are written without any knowledge of your physical and mental state during the month of the program. You will need to adjust these programs to suit your current health, lifestyle and capabilities.You must use a percentage of an actual result in competition.”. I think that posting these ‘unmonitored’ programs is really a ploy to get more people to actually hire him because he charges a pretty penny (400 a month I believe). Hahaha anyways…[/quote]
lol, no doubt. I’m not going to pay $200-$400 to see whether I should use an everyday training max or a peaked training max on my next cycle! Still, it is neat to see the page up as a resource and review the comments he has left for his English-speaking trainees.
" 72% give or take 2%" 69 is not good but better than 68… 75 not good but better than 74" and two more quotes
powerlifting is pure maths …
and finally … what the Soviet system achieved in strength training in Heavy athletics between the early 70’s and late 80’s has never been surpassed
and that last one I believe relates to training information and knowledge
all actual quotes heard in Hobart , not read on someone else post, blog or website, but from mouth to ear…