When Does a "Fake" Pandemic Become "Real"?

This is how you end up with our current government situation.

Wow…just wow…

This is one time I wish it was “Fake News”…

Straight letter voters with no principles

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That number is worse when you consider that Sweden has 575 deaths per million pop, where Norway has 49. According to worldometer.

Staying open killed over 10x more people.

And resulted in roughly the same (or even worse) economic performance when compared to their Nordic neighbors.

Why?

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Gyms begin their opening here in NYS today. Apparently masks are mandatory at all times (except when eating/drinking). We will see how this unfolds. I’m pissed, but do want to get back into lifting.

Have you ever watched shittyflute on YouTube. Not sure why, but the masks coupled with the instruments has me thinking about shittyflute

I’ve never heard the original version of this song (seen above). But many a times the shittyflute version of a song is superior to the original.

Apparently you can really get infected more than once with COVID, but I’m curious as to what other issues these people have since it’s already known that people with immune system issues can potentially not develop immunity to just about anything. Also any vaccine might be worthless if you can get infected again in just a few months, but regardless of that there is a ton of money to be made if billions of people are to be vaccinated annually.

"Dr David Strain, a clinical senior lecturer at the University of Exeter and chair of the British Medical Association’s medical academic staff committee, said the cases were worrying for several reasons.

“The first is that it suggests that previous infection is not protective,” he said. “The second is that it raises the possibility that vaccinations may not provide the hope that we have been waiting for.”

If this is the case and a vaccine can’t prevent it then what? Maybe the only option is to continue with life as normal and accept the possibility that you can get sick at any time. There doesn’t seem to be a better solution on the horizon unless some new ideas or information emerge.

The vibe from Hong Kong was different–they have a confirmed reinfection but don’t consider it worrying, because the patient is asymptomatic this time. They are observing him of course, but no symptoms. The doc there says “it’s the immune system functioning normally, as it should”.

If that’s the case then vaccines may still be useful.

Recall illnesses like mono - you can be a carrier for it but you remain “immune” from it after you’ve beaten it, at least in the vast majority of cases.

Even two of the sources for that article you posted essentially said ,“this doesn’t make me nervous” (yet).

It’s wait and see

The article mentioned that one of the reinfected people has a compromised immune system, I’m wondering if that’s not the case with all of them. But then again, with coronaviruses there is typically no long lasting immunity anyway.

Lots of people die from mosquito-borne illnesses all the time like dengue fever, malaria, chikungunya, yellow fever, and so on. The risk of dying from a mosquito-borne illness is much higher than with COVID and people still continue to live their lives, there might not be any other way forward with COVID other than that.

This is cherry picking. Look at the amount of deaths in the US from mosquito-borne illness and compare it to Covid. Yeah if you add places with lots of mosquitos and essentially zero health care then the comparison goes in favor of mosquito borne. But for most developed countries not even close.

In a year Covid deaths will likely be higher than mosquito-borne anyways.

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It’s not cherry picking, it’s giving an example of endemic diseases and the fact that life has to go on. We don’t know everything about COVID, the fact that it might really be possible to be infected multiple times within a short period is new, and decisions on long-term strategies can’t be made just yet.

It’s misleading at best then. Your odds of dying from a mosquito bite are incredibly low compared to Covid.

The comparison doesn’t make much sense.

Not in some parts of the world

Yes in some parts of the world it is far more deadlier. Funny how that works in places with horrific healthcare.

The flu was a shitty comparison for the developed world but it’s much better than this one.

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You would have to add up all the different mosquito-borne diseases to compare, but here is malaria alone:

In 2018, there were an estimated 405 000 deaths from malaria globally, compared with 416 000 estimated deaths in 2017, and 585 000 in 2010.

COVID has been around for close to a year and has killed a bit over 800,000. Also there are effective treatments for malaria, none yet for COVID.

You mean the US?

Close to a year? First Covid death in Canada was in early March right? Basically the same for US. Wasn’t

We have shitty access to healthcare. Not too bad though if you can afford it.

Very rare to die of mosquito bites in much of the developed world. But not even sure really why it was brought up.