When Does a "Fake" Pandemic Become "Real"?

No, sir. Just at work today.

I’m fully indoctrinated I mean we’ve had almost
160,000 deaths in 5 months and I’m taking precautions like a little sheep. Probably wear my seat belt later today and I’m picking up a little kid and will put her in a car seat.

I’m such a sheep.

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Indoctrination implies that the person doing the indoctrination is trying to get people to accept claims uncritically. It is kinda hard to do this with science based claims because being skeptical and investigating them is expected and encouraged.

No indoctrination is necessary with science because if a scientific theory is questioned and found untrue, then it loses it’s position as a scientific theory. It is a self correcting process.

Many claims from the Trump administration do however fall into the indoctrination category. IMO, one would find it difficult to believe Trump’s words if they were thinking skeptically.

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“Welcome to the Freedom Cafe!

We trust you to make your own choices if you want to wear a face mask. And, in the same spirit of individual liberty, we allow our staff to make their own choices about the safety procedures they prefer to follow as they prepare and serve your food.

We encourage employees to wash their hands after using the bathroom, but understand that some people may be allergic to certain soaps or may simply prefer not to wash their hands. It is not our place to tell them what to do.

We understand that you may be used to chicken that has been cooked to 165 degrees. We do have to respect that some of our cooks may have seen a meme or a YouTube video saying that 100 degrees is fine and we do not want to encroach on their beliefs.

Some servers may wish to touch your food as they serve it. There is no reason that a healthy person with clean hands can’t touch your food. We will take their word for it that they are healthy and clean.

Water temperature and detergent are highly personal choices, and we allow our dishwashing team to decide how they’d prefer to wash the silverware you will put in your mouth.

Some of you may get sick, but almost everyone survives food poisoning. We think you’ll agree that it’s a small price to pay for the sweet freedom of no one ever being told what to do – and especially not for the silly reason of keeping strangers healthy.”

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You sound like some sheep who isn’t aware that Bill Gates created this in his laboratory of doom so he could finally make a little bit of money.

You probably think the Holocaust happened like an indoctrinated idiot and don’t even realize George W Bush flew a plane into the World Trade Center but ejected before impact. Over there thinking Sandy Hook wasn’t child actors so Obama could take all the guns.

These all make perfect sense try thinking about things on your own and not what people tell you.

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Republican tradition dictates that he not just threaten, but actually do it.

You know what they say about leading a horse to water…

The internet is truly making a lot of folks at least more willfully ignorant if not actually more stupid.

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This morning had some work related comedy where a branch manager said that any mandate to wear masks violated the fourth amendment, therefore he was not going to do it at his branch. The conversation with his manager was very amusing where he sighed, commented how he’s not necessarily surprised as the branch manager has always been difficult and he would handle it.

The divisiveness and mental gymnastics related to masks are very impressive in a sad way.

If you think Fauci is bad then take a look at Australia:

“Where you slept last night is where you’ll need to stay for the next six weeks,”
(Imagine where that might be - in your car, at some girl’s place you met at a bar the same night, next to a dumpster, and so on)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/02/australia/victoria-coronavirus-state-of-disaster-intl/index.html

Not necessarily true, there are plenty of bad studies and bad science that become widely accepted. I follow some things related to sports science and there are some studies out there that are complete crap (45 sets per muscle group study) or were mostly based on made up data (Everything Barbalho did). I would expect a higher degree of scrutiny in medical studies, but there have been more than a few studies that were only discredited after being accepted for years.

Agree. One can pick almost any exercise philosophy and find research to back it up. However, those are accepted by those not thinking critically about them. They are rejected by those applying scrutiny.

I would not call this indoctrination, more just people who are not good at science doing it to get their masters in exercise science or whatever, and people buying into it. I don’t think there is effort to get the readers to just accept the conclusion?

Now when you see people selling their secret programs and such. That could be called indoctrination in most cases.

Barbalho yes, not the others though. Like Schoenfeld and Israetel and friends. They do some seemingly good work, but more than one study was complete crap and they are defending it to the bitter end.

That’s a lot better than the women you’ll find in dumpsters.

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I wasn’t an academic dive into the psychology of disordered behavior. It was more like a séance regarding deviancy. I would have been ok with the former, even if it would have been harder. We just talked about our feelings. I got an A in the class, it was easy. I think everybody got an A. We did delve into some things like that in ‘Abnormal Psychology’, but it was more academic.

TBH, I don’t think the concept behind vaccine is that complicated. In the 18th century when pmall pox was the scourge, they just took puss from an infected person and rubbed it in to a small cut. Wasn’t the greatest method, some people got small pox and died. The majority had minor symptoms and survived.
We try to create inoculations that do no harm what so ever. And it’s really hard to make one where no one will suffer any repercussions.
The basic flu shot merely takes influenza RNA, nukes it and puts it in solution. Of course, I happen to think a live one makes it through from time to time, but that’s a different topic…
Thinking about what a vaccine is, grabbing the virus, killing it, putting it in solution and injecting it into someone isn’t that complicated.
Before everybody goes nuts, I know what they are trying to do is create a hybridized compound that replicates covid-19, but isn’t, make it a bit stronger so that you will develop even stronger anti-bodies than you need, to be able to fend off even mutations.
My point is that I don’t think there is a need to be worried about inoculations for corona even if they are made quickly. Most people would be fine with a hastily concocted vaccine that is based on current science, because the basic concept has been the same for centuries and most people will be fine.
Again, they are worried, rightly, about the people on the margins.
Testing effectiveness, duration of efficacy and safety at the margins are typically what takes so long.

But what about the microchips?

/sarcasm

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It’s going to be like this no matter what, due to the difficulties in the field (volunteer selection, availability, funding, and a dozen other things). I have an entire folder of my computer dedicated to crap studies.

However the point is that there are restrictions on research that make it much harder to get that golden study out practically speaking. Statistical power of most of these ex phys studies is very low.

To each his own.

See this:

Prior receipt of 2008–09 TIV was associated with increased risk of medically attended pH1N1 illness during the spring–summer 2009 in Canada.

In some cases these studies appear to have been done in order to support a predetermined conclusion, either the data was creatively interpreted or the study made no sense at all and didn’t correlate to anything in real life. They were taken seriously only because there were some big names associated with the studies. Or in the case of Barbalho, it looks like the data was mostly made up. The takeaway point for me is that it’s not that hard to do phony studies to support whatever, so while I’m not living in fear of nanobot vaccines activated by 5G I still maintain my skepticism.