When Does a "Fake" Pandemic Become "Real"?

To be fair, a lot of them jumped ship because they didn’t want to vote for Obama.

That’s why we now have red flag waving morons trying to get the gubmint to intervene and force the hand of businesses, including but not limited to forcing price reductions on pharmaceutical Co’s.

Remember the pants shitting from the right when it was proposed that Exxon made too much money, and the gubmint should require them to drop prices and/or surrender some of their quarterly profits?

Here ya go. If we can agree that this is a good source, then use it to make your points.

Show us where and how the government is violating somebody’s rights or censoring their speech/expression.

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And it was Tipper Gore who founded the Parents Music Resource Center.

Sure. I can’t say it’s correct or anything, but my belief is that the definitions of “conservative” and “liberal” have been dumbed down in the popular consciousness, and don’t represent a true sample of “educated”, well thought out, or evolving over time. I think there are plenty of ideas that are conservative and evolve over time.

There are many many things involved here and I’m on my phone so I’m not about to attempt thumb-typing them all. But effectively, I think that universities carry large amounts of dead weight in terms of departments/majors. This, I think, is self evident by virtue of the current economic woes higher ed is seeing right now, but not necessarily a bad thing per se. These departments (as well as bureaucratic administrations, but that’s not the topic at hand) have to justify their existence–in the case of departments it is with publications. So there are many publications of varying quality, with many ideas that are completely unworkable in the real world. Many of these happen to be liberal.

I think “brain washing” is a poor term and disagree with that, but do agree there is a left leaning influence. I think this is a combination of universities acting like any other large corporation with CYA measures and the dead weight I referenced above.

It’s like Dan Aykroyd says to Bill Murray in Ghostbusters: “You don’t know what it’s like out there. I’ve worked in the private sector - they expect results!”.

Many people who are in love with Ideas end up pursuing academia. They don’t want to hit corporate America (not that I blame them). But whereas STEM fields are at least moderately linked to the corporate world by virtue of innovation, patents, new technologies and their uses, whatever…non-stem fields have no such limitation. Once you achieve tenure you are effectively immune in most circumstances.

To be clear, I don’t think this is a bad thing on the by itself–one of the premises of our culture is that universities should be an arena to explore ideas that may not have immediate application. Academic freedom is a good thing.

However I do 100% notice that there is a subsurface push against conservatives, and this is reflected in a number of ways. One of them is not hiring a prospective faculty member. This is not only my experience as an observer but others I personally know–they keep conservative ideas under wraps so that they can get along with their university departments, colleagues, and others. Not make waves essentially.

There have been a few studies on the idea of conservatives and their relative lack in academia, but the most headline grabbing have been flawed. Conservatives are not on the whole less likely to go to college or get advanced degrees (at least in STEM). They might be less likely to go to Academia, but that’s not the same thing.

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But plenty are. And it’s a prohibition against government related censorship, NOT a private corporate platform that you’re using.

Now if you like you can argue that we need to change that standard, and that’s fine. However, that’s the standard as it is.

I wonder how much of that is to have more women attend college or be part of the faculty and department heads. I would think for a woman, majoring in women’s studies should be rather easy. When a major let’s a student speak her truth, how can you fail?

I’m not really sure Z. It happens much more often in the circles you mentioned than others.

I think some of it may be related or a push for diversity in department head positions irrespective of qualifications, but no way to know. Or at least, I haven’t bothered investigating.

So, I caught this thing and have had recurring issues for over a month that have varied wildly from the original symptoms. Initially, I never had a cough, fever or shortness of breath, which was my biggest concern as I contracted a bacterial infection four years ago that mimicked prolonged pneumonia that lasted almost two years and legitimately almost killed me. But, in the last two weeks I’ve developed everything but the fever, and adding that to the unreal nausea and vomiting that has been the mainstay makes this thing suck fucking balls. So, I obviously recognize how serious this is and that we need to take it seriously.

Having said all of that, shutting down the fucking economy for this blows my mind. I’m aware that there’s things going on that I’m just not smart enough to understand, but there’s also A LOT of things going on that flat don’t add up. Sorry, I’m a bit liquored up writing this, will gather my thoughts and get back. Hope everyone’s alright.

But I want the site I use to let me do whatever I want and it’s totally not fair if they don’t. Fucking bullshit this site is moderated and they ban people. Are you sure that’s the correct first amendment? because I’m pretty sure somewhere in the actual first amendment freedom of speech that I will be using for my beliefs it says T-Nation can’t tell me what the fuck to do on here. I thought we had freedom of speech and I thought this was America!

For the gazillionth time, it’s the virus that’s shutting down the economy.

This are the average daily traffic congestion levels for Stockholm, where supposedly life goes on as normal. After the 10th week of 2020, roughly corresponding with the worldwide Covid-19 outbreak, you’ll se a 40-80% drop in traffic levels.

You can’t force people to live their lives like before during a pandemic that will - at best - put you out of action for two weeks, with a significant chance for hospitalization for all age cohorts.

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I know that it is A first amendment.

I don’t know if it is The first amendment.

It could be an amendment to the assembly instructions for some ikea furniture. It doesn’t matter. Dude isn’t going to read it. :joy:

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Why would Google, Twitter, Instagram, etc. immediately censor the video of Dr. Immanuel? If they’re legitimate doctors, board certified and all, why is their information taken down? Who gets to decide what information is “misinformation”?

“LISTEN TO THE DOCTORS!”…“Okay, here are some doctors.” “NO! NOT THOSE DOCTORS!”…fuck out of here with your bullshit.

Lol-ing so hard right now

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Because not everyone has enough discernment to identify a whack job.
My wife has had fibroids - had I known they were caused by fornicating with devil spawn, I would have busted out the holy water as a cure.

Not every doctor is worth going to - even if they are “board certified” (which means they passed a test).
Come on dude.

Are you saying she is a whack job based upon her beliefs about the demon spawn impregnating you during your sleep or whatever? Those are her religious beliefs. They have no impact on her medical experience and expertise. If that were the case, you could call any person of a religion you did not agree with a whack job.

I predict you’re going to win a Darwin Award.

I predict you will not contribute anything worthwhile to this conversation.

Probably not by your standards - I don’t have much to add about demon spawn impregnating you in your sleep or how injecting bleach or sunlight will cure Covid-19.

But, you know, First Amendment rights and all that…

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I will pray for you.

If her religious beliefs impact her recommendations about treatment plans than yes they have impact on her medical practice and should be taken into account.

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