When Did You Leave the Nest?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Rebel Shuttle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Rebel Shuttle wrote:
I’m in a similar situation to the OP. I’m 23 and started a job last November making just under 50K a year, still living with my parents. After I took care of my remaining student loan debts and purchased a car I was planning on moving out in late September to early October. While I was searching for potential apartments I was informed I was being laid off. My final day is now coming up and I will be out of work. I’m planning on going to contract work and working as a contractor. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with contracting, particularly if it was for years at a time and involved multiple jobs and having to move.[/quote]
Out of state job?[/quote]

What do you mean?[/quote]
Get a job out of state.

Your young go explore[/quote]

srsly - do this.

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[quote]24Animal7 wrote:

So my question is; when did you move out for good? How did you feel about it? [/quote]

Age 17 signed papers for the Army early.

I had a free ride really anywhere (National Merit Scholar, great SATs, state-level track athlete, on track for #1 or so in class, and let’s face it – reservation born American Indian – I could go anywhere.).

But, my step father said I was way too aggressive and a bad mix of immature and mature and needed the structure/purpose of a military at war.

He was correct. I love him very much.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
17 and I was a father.[/quote]

Dad?

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[quote]Hertzyscowicz wrote:
Just what kind of a job pays 60K a year to someone too dumb to figure out they could be out of their 22K debt and have a decent nest-egg in a year if they save half their income?

More importantly, are they hiring right now?[/quote]

Oilfield. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test, it’s at least $80K/year.

If you have a strong back, can follow orders, can pass a drug test, and don’t mind busting your ass, rig work is over $100,000 for 19 year olds.

Mind you, 1/10 get hurt, killed, whatever. But it’s great pay, and, if you are not an idiot, safe.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hertzyscowicz wrote:
Just what kind of a job pays 60K a year to someone too dumb to figure out they could be out of their 22K debt and have a decent nest-egg in a year if they save half their income?

More importantly, are they hiring right now?[/quote]

Oilfield. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test, it’s at least $80K/year.

If you have a strong back, can follow orders, can pass a drug test, and don’t mind busting your ass, rig work is over $100,000 for 19 year olds.

Mind you, 1/10 get hurt, killed, whatever. But it’s great pay, and, if you are not an idiot, safe.[/quote]

I looked into a senior level industrial safety/ environmental position in the Dakotas. What do you think that should start out a I was thinking 140-160K?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Rebel Shuttle wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Rebel Shuttle wrote:
I’m in a similar situation to the OP. I’m 23 and started a job last November making just under 50K a year, still living with my parents. After I took care of my remaining student loan debts and purchased a car I was planning on moving out in late September to early October. While I was searching for potential apartments I was informed I was being laid off. My final day is now coming up and I will be out of work. I’m planning on going to contract work and working as a contractor. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with contracting, particularly if it was for years at a time and involved multiple jobs and having to move.[/quote]
Out of state job?[/quote]

What do you mean?[/quote]
Get a job out of state.

Your young go explore[/quote]

Absolutely. So many people are stuck at the 25 mile radius from their nest. Time to nut up and move.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
17 and I was a father.[/quote]

Dad?[/quote]
Lol, dude I am 5’10" I would have had to fuck start a WNBA player to produce you.

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hertzyscowicz wrote:
Just what kind of a job pays 60K a year to someone too dumb to figure out they could be out of their 22K debt and have a decent nest-egg in a year if they save half their income?

More importantly, are they hiring right now?[/quote]

Oilfield. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test, it’s at least $80K/year.

If you have a strong back, can follow orders, can pass a drug test, and don’t mind busting your ass, rig work is over $100,000 for 19 year olds.

Mind you, 1/10 get hurt, killed, whatever. But it’s great pay, and, if you are not an idiot, safe.[/quote]

I looked into a senior level industrial safety/ environmental position in the Dakotas. What do you think that should start out a I was thinking 140-160K?
[/quote]

I really don’t know the Dakota market. The pay is even higher than NM/TX, though, because housing and everything is on such short supply. $140-160K does not seem out of line.

Be prepared to be financially raped for housing. Try to get into a man camp, if you can stand living there.

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[quote]cstratton2 wrote:
You could always rent a room from someone else and still pay around 300 or 400 dollars a month.
[/quote]
+1

16 here.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hertzyscowicz wrote:
Just what kind of a job pays 60K a year to someone too dumb to figure out they could be out of their 22K debt and have a decent nest-egg in a year if they save half their income?

More importantly, are they hiring right now?[/quote]

Oilfield. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test, it’s at least $80K/year.

If you have a strong back, can follow orders, can pass a drug test, and don’t mind busting your ass, rig work is over $100,000 for 19 year olds.

Mind you, 1/10 get hurt, killed, whatever. But it’s great pay, and, if you are not an idiot, safe.[/quote]

I looked into a senior level industrial safety/ environmental position in the Dakotas. What do you think that should start out a I was thinking 140-160K?
[/quote]

I really don’t know the Dakota market. The pay is even higher than NM/TX, though, because housing and everything is on such short supply. $140-160K does not seem out of line.

Be prepared to be financially raped for housing. Try to get into a man camp, if you can stand living there.
[/quote]

What sort of engineering jobs are there in the oil industry, specifically drafting or design? Is that sort of work more likely to be found with companies that design and build the machinery used by oil and gas companies?

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[quote]Rebel Shuttle wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hertzyscowicz wrote:
Just what kind of a job pays 60K a year to someone too dumb to figure out they could be out of their 22K debt and have a decent nest-egg in a year if they save half their income?

More importantly, are they hiring right now?[/quote]

Oilfield. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test, it’s at least $80K/year.

If you have a strong back, can follow orders, can pass a drug test, and don’t mind busting your ass, rig work is over $100,000 for 19 year olds.

Mind you, 1/10 get hurt, killed, whatever. But it’s great pay, and, if you are not an idiot, safe.[/quote]

I looked into a senior level industrial safety/ environmental position in the Dakotas. What do you think that should start out a I was thinking 140-160K?
[/quote]

I really don’t know the Dakota market. The pay is even higher than NM/TX, though, because housing and everything is on such short supply. $140-160K does not seem out of line.

Be prepared to be financially raped for housing. Try to get into a man camp, if you can stand living there.
[/quote]

What sort of engineering jobs are there in the oil industry, specifically drafting or design? Is that sort of work more likely to be found with companies that design and build the machinery used by oil and gas companies?[/quote]

Assuming you have an engineering degree, what discipline? I have a Petroleum Engineering degree along with a geology degree, so most all of my friends are in the oil and gas field, i might have some idea to help you out.

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[quote]BigDawg6593 wrote:

[quote]Rebel Shuttle wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hertzyscowicz wrote:
Just what kind of a job pays 60K a year to someone too dumb to figure out they could be out of their 22K debt and have a decent nest-egg in a year if they save half their income?

More importantly, are they hiring right now?[/quote]

Oilfield. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test, it’s at least $80K/year.

If you have a strong back, can follow orders, can pass a drug test, and don’t mind busting your ass, rig work is over $100,000 for 19 year olds.

Mind you, 1/10 get hurt, killed, whatever. But it’s great pay, and, if you are not an idiot, safe.[/quote]

I looked into a senior level industrial safety/ environmental position in the Dakotas. What do you think that should start out a I was thinking 140-160K?
[/quote]

I really don’t know the Dakota market. The pay is even higher than NM/TX, though, because housing and everything is on such short supply. $140-160K does not seem out of line.

Be prepared to be financially raped for housing. Try to get into a man camp, if you can stand living there.
[/quote]

What sort of engineering jobs are there in the oil industry, specifically drafting or design? Is that sort of work more likely to be found with companies that design and build the machinery used by oil and gas companies?[/quote]

Assuming you have an engineering degree, what discipline? I have a Petroleum Engineering degree along with a geology degree, so most all of my friends are in the oil and gas field, i might have some idea to help you out.
[/quote]

I only have a two year degree in drafting. Most of the engineering jobs that I have seen in the oil and gas industry require at least a four year degree and I’ve never seen any drafting related jobs.

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Then like Ruffian suggested, a roughneck on rigs pays well. Do you have your CDLs? If so, could look at trying to hire on to a service company (Halliburton, Schlumbger, Nabors, etc) as a laborer. From my own experience seeing frac crews operate, it doesn’t take long to move up the ranks, lots of supervisors under 30. Lots of money, lots of hours, but you are handsomely rewarded.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
17 and I was a father.[/quote]

Dad?[/quote]
Lol, dude I am 5’10" I would have had to fuck start a WNBA player to produce you. [/quote]

Ha. The only thing worthwhile my biological father gave me was height and a gnawing insecurity that made me succeed.

I actually know where he is — buried in a pauper’s grave inside the fence in the Huntsville prison in East Texas. Died in some sort of Aryan Nation fight, according to what my other 1/2 brother told me.

Wonder if his KKK buddies knew he had a 1/2 Apache bastard son.

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[quote]Rebel Shuttle wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Hertzyscowicz wrote:
Just what kind of a job pays 60K a year to someone too dumb to figure out they could be out of their 22K debt and have a decent nest-egg in a year if they save half their income?

More importantly, are they hiring right now?[/quote]

Oilfield. If you have a CDL and can pass a drug test, it’s at least $80K/year.

If you have a strong back, can follow orders, can pass a drug test, and don’t mind busting your ass, rig work is over $100,000 for 19 year olds.

Mind you, 1/10 get hurt, killed, whatever. But it’s great pay, and, if you are not an idiot, safe.[/quote]

I looked into a senior level industrial safety/ environmental position in the Dakotas. What do you think that should start out a I was thinking 140-160K?
[/quote]

I really don’t know the Dakota market. The pay is even higher than NM/TX, though, because housing and everything is on such short supply. $140-160K does not seem out of line.

Be prepared to be financially raped for housing. Try to get into a man camp, if you can stand living there.
[/quote]

What sort of engineering jobs are there in the oil industry, specifically drafting or design? Is that sort of work more likely to be found with companies that design and build the machinery used by oil and gas companies?[/quote]

Have no idea.

I would think some of the tool manufacturing companies would hire, but that’s not my end of the business – the extent I’ve used a draftsman was to help me do a 3D CAD of a directional motor I designed — not like I’m a great designer, I just kept watching these fucking motors break and figured out the weak point.

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Kinda gives me an idea for you…try applying to the bigger service companies as an engineering tech at the main research and development locations (the ones i’m familiar with would be in Trumbull Texas and Duncan Oklahoma, but has to be many others). On a trip to Trumbull for an interview we took a tour of the equipment manufacturing area and I remember it being mentioned that engineering techs work there to assist the engineers design work. Be something to look into, pay probably isn’t great, but should be a “normal” schedule.

Ruffian, sounds like you have had a great career in the industry, have you been in the New Mexico/Texas area your whole career?

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[quote]BigDawg6593 wrote:
Kinda gives me an idea for you…try applying to the bigger service companies as an engineering tech at the main research and development locations (the ones i’m familiar with would be in Trumbull Texas and Duncan Oklahoma, but has to be many others). On a trip to Trumbull for an interview we took a tour of the equipment manufacturing area and I remember it being mentioned that engineering techs work there to assist the engineers design work. Be something to look into, pay probably isn’t great, but should be a “normal” schedule.

Ruffian, sounds like you have had a great career in the industry, have you been in the New Mexico/Texas area your whole career?[/quote]

No, I started in Nigeria and other shitty parts of Africa working security. I had an petroleum engineering degree, but was not a PE. The VP of the company I provided security for hired me and I ended up off shore Nigeria as a Company man, then Gulf USA.

My step father (my real father) owned a small two-rig drilling/work-over company. He had a heart attack and I came home to run it, bought it from him, and the rest is history.

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That is my next step…want to try and expand my experience base as much as I can in the next 4 years before I can take the PE exam. I have talked to a few company men and they all have advice to stay out of Africa now. Have any thoughts on the far east? One of the company men has me considering that area. Most of Europe seems like it would be interesting to work also.

Sorry to hijack the thread like that, but at least you can see all of the places you can see in the industry.