Yeh, I use both protocols, depending on my goals. True tabata destroys my legs, almost unbearable pain.
I get crazy sweat and breathing going with the 2:1 ratio so I usually use that if I need to keep my wheels fresh.
I just reviewed the other thread. That douche has a similar screen name as me. I guess your forgiven.
[quote]MC sp3 wrote:
. I guess your forgiven. [/quote]
E-kiss and make up? ;} err…
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
MC sp3 wrote:
. I guess your forgiven.
E-kiss and make up? ;} err…
[/quote]
As long as it doesn’t mean I’m gay:)
Be careful! If you’re squatting low on the smith machine, it can be fairly dangerous. When doing a full squat on a free barbell, the bar has to move horizontally when you’re going from above parallel to as low as you can go. This maintains your joints’ normal range of motion. The smith machine restricts this horizontal movement so you have to follow a set vertical path.
Long story short, in my first gym I didn’t have a squat rack. I decided i’d squat on the smith machine. I strove to squat ass to grass, and after a few months I gave myself a groin injury that wasn’t completely gone for over a year and a half. You don’t want to have that happen!
If you’re squatting on the smith machine, going to parallel is probably the absolute lowest you should go. Any lower and you risk what happened to me. If you follow this, you lose the benefits of a full squat. As someone else stated, try front squats. It will be humbling compared to the weight you can put up on the smith machine, but it will be a much more effective exercise.
You may be built so that you can safetly squat with a completely vertical path, but it’s always a risk. I took that risk and failed!
Do whatever you want, just realize its not the best thats fact. No one cares about your weak lifts also, if you do have some near world record lifts though videos are always appreciated.
I got a new eccentric smith squat PR of 484 lbs. yesterday. I’m just a little unsure if I hit legal depth.
What do you guys think?
Also feel free to critique my form.
[quote]michael2507 wrote:
I got a new eccentric smith squat PR of 484 lbs. yesterday. I’m just a little unsure if I hit legal depth.
What do you guys think?
Also feel free to critique my form.[/quote]
Uhh don’t you know you aren’t supposed to go past parallel? You might hurt your knees.
You squat on a SMITH MACHINE ???
The only use i find for it is holding my tower and even then its giving it too much work. !
Get a barbell… if you dont have a squat rack do hack squats or learn to the olympic lifts to get the bar up.
Squats on smith machine whatever next !
And my ATG is 130kgs for 3 and not on a damn smith machine !
By google: 130 kilograms = 286.600941 pounds
I once did half squats in the smith machine.
It is several years ago and was for core-strengthening and preparing the quads for full squats.
4 reps with 330 kg. That is 725 pounds.
[quote]michael2507 wrote:
I got a new eccentric smith squat PR of 484 lbs. yesterday. I’m just a little unsure if I hit legal depth.
What do you guys think?
Also feel free to critique my form.[/quote]
Amazing ROM. This is true ass to grass. Or perhaps beyond grass.
[quote]eigieinhamr wrote:
michael2507 wrote:
I got a new eccentric smith squat PR of 484 lbs. yesterday. I’m just a little unsure if I hit legal depth.
What do you guys think?
Also feel free to critique my form.
Uhh don’t you know you aren’t supposed to go past parallel? You might hurt your knees.[/quote]
Hopefully this remark was made with a healthy portion of sarcasm.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
eigieinhamr wrote:
michael2507 wrote:
I got a new eccentric smith squat PR of 484 lbs. yesterday. I’m just a little unsure if I hit legal depth.
What do you guys think?
Also feel free to critique my form.
Uhh don’t you know you aren’t supposed to go past parallel? You might hurt your knees.
Hopefully this remark was made with a healthy portion of sarcasm.[/quote]
You mean that video doesn’t show how low all those ATG people think you should go? 
[quote]eigieinhamr wrote:
You mean that video doesn’t show how low all those ATG people think you should go? :O[/quote]
???
Ok, now you have me really confused. First, I can’t view the video, I’m currently running my computer off of a “live” CD and don’t have flash player installed. So, if there is some sort of irony to the video then I’ve completely missed it.
I was assuming from your comment that either:
- You were one of those still incorrectly informed individuals who believes that going past parallel is actually harmful for the health of one’s knee joints.
or
- Making a sarcastic comment.
I hoped that the later was the case, hence my comment.
If it’s the former, then I’d suggest you do a little more research and take a good hard look at the real world (olympic lifters in particular, and bodybuilders as well).
Also check out the recent article by Craig Rasmussen about “Exercise Misconceptions”. You’ll see that ATG actually isn’t all that much further than a true parallel squat.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
eigieinhamr wrote:
You mean that video doesn’t show how low all those ATG people think you should go?
???
Ok, now you have me really confused. First, I can’t view the video, I’m currently running my computer off of a “live” CD and don’t have flash player installed. So, if there is some sort of irony to the video then I’ve completely missed it.
I was assuming from your comment that either:
- You were one of those still incorrectly informed individuals who believes that going past parallel is actually harmful for the health of one’s knee joints.
or
- Making a sarcastic comment.
I hoped that the later was the case, hence my comment.
If it’s the former, then I’d suggest you do a little more research and take a good hard look at the real world (olympic lifters in particular, and bodybuilders as well).
Also check out the recent article by Craig Rasmussen about “Exercise Misconceptions”. You’ll see that ATG actually isn’t all that much further than a true parallel squat.[/quote]
The video is of a kid squatting in the Smythe. He unlocks the weight and then performs a really deep, explosive eccentric where his face ends up on the floor with the bar on his neck. Face to grass squats, it’s the new rage.
Yeah you really had to have viewed the video to understand. I always squat past parallel
My best performance on the Smith machine:
I hung two coats and a gym bag on it.
[quote]will to power wrote:
The video is of a kid squatting in the Smythe. He unlocks the weight and then performs a really deep, explosive eccentric where his face ends up on the floor with the bar on his neck. Face to grass squats, it’s the new rage.[/quote]
LOL. Oh, that video. Ok, now I understand. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
I find it impossible to even do a squat in a smith machine. My body can’t move the way it was made to. The smith machine forcing you into this fixed groove that seems just horrible.
a smith machine squat is not a squat it’s more like an upright leg press. near useless, but better than not going to the gym.