What's Wrong with Us?

[quote]brownab wrote:
Professor X wrote:

The dumbest women I have ever met in my life have been undergrad psych majors.

I have never agreed with you more. I say the same thing to every psych major I meet “Can I have a refill, please?” I came to this realization after a conversion with a woman that had graduated with a psych major a few years before-she was my waitress at Hooters. No offense to people that go on to grad school for psych, but what useful knowledge or skills does an undergrad psych major have?[/quote]

Depends on what school you went to and what classes you took. Most of what you learn is the results of a lot of studies, statistics, and other general stuff. But there is useful information here and there. Speaking from experience (because I also have a BA in psych and stopped school after I finished it), it’s useless unless you hope to continue to grad school. The only thing it’s good for is being able to say you have a Bachelor’s degree. Which helps, I guess. On the flip side, I was in a lot of classes with a bunch of hot chicks :wink:

It’s simple emotional intelligence. You are either born with it or, like me, somehow begin to grasp it after years and years of failure. Say you have a goal. You want to be healthy, to be sexy, to be powerful, whatever it is - that want will always be there. To actually do it is something else entirely. To see only yourself and your goal, and ignore all the bullshit, to actually revel in the hardship. That is an experience that is described Jordan, Picasso, and Einstein. It is something to aspire to.

[quote]jtg987 wrote:
I don’t want mediocrity,
I don’t like the idea I was born to be average,
If I was going to grow up to be average kill me now
[/quote]

You are still in the average of people who don’t want to be average

[quote]Mad HORSE wrote:
I want to see a study showing that people into intense exercise have a masochistic streak. Why the hell are we in the weight room 3, 5, or more days a week doing grueling lifts, pushing ourselves to get bigger, stronger, faster, harder, when the “normal” population doesn’t even consider it?
I’d like to see any relevant comments, especially links to such a study.[/quote]

Uhm. If the result of lifting is getting “better” (where better is stronger, faster, and bigger) then how is it masochistic? What you’re suggesting makes no sense, at all.

By your reasoning, it’s masochistic to go to school.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Who gives a fuck? People do what they do. Some people tie belts around their necks when they jerk off, some people lift weights. God knows the reasons.[/quote]

Cause that’s the way, uh huh, uh huh, they like it.

Actually, the reason I lift is because I’m a sadist. I need to be strong enough to tie up the big boys and give them a good whipping.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
sidewalkdances wrote:
One of my sisters mates (Shes a psychology undergrad) reckons that FFB’s (she knew me at 336lbs and now at 203) use obsessive exercise and diet to replace a previous food addiction. This way they can carry on the addiction in a more healthy way, according to her anyway. It makes some sort of sense I guess.

Note she doesnt say its a bad thing, but did compare my eating to “A smack head switching to methodone”.

The dumbest women I have ever met in my life have been undergrad psych majors.

Yep.[/quote]

lol i thought maybe my experience with psych major’s was biased in someway…i guess not.

I like hot wax on my genitals and lifting heavy weight so wha?

hm…maybe I shouldn’t major is Psych lol

Really I’m just doing it because it’s interesting in some ways and will help me keep my GPA high which is my biggest concern considering I’m going to go to mental or dental school.

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
hm…maybe I shouldn’t major is Psych lol

Really I’m just doing it because it’s interesting in some ways and will help me keep my GPA high which is my biggest concern considering I’m going to go to mental or dental school.[/quote]

Yes, mental school is hard as hell. That’s why I chose the second option.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
hm…maybe I shouldn’t major is Psych lol

Really I’m just doing it because it’s interesting in some ways and will help me keep my GPA high which is my biggest concern considering I’m going to go to mental or dental school.

Yes, mental school is hard as hell. That’s why I chose the second option.[/quote]

lol yea I’m seriously considering dental school now after some research and talking to others. I was actually going to ask you about it sometime. I wanted to become a physician because of my interest in health/fitness/nutrition but the more I research the more I see that you really don’t get much time with patients and that its really a quick and obvious diagnosis followed by filling out a prescription. Along with 55+ hours a week, being on call, dealing with malpractice and insurance issues, etc…

Dentistry on the other hand seems to have less hours, more flexibility, just as high of pay, less malpractice/insurance issues, and it’s potentially easier to open a practice. Apparently its slightly harder to actually get into dental school now and keep a practice open but overall it’s seeming to be the better option

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
hm…maybe I shouldn’t major is Psych lol

Really I’m just doing it because it’s interesting in some ways and will help me keep my GPA high which is my biggest concern considering I’m going to go to mental or dental school.

Yes, mental school is hard as hell. That’s why I chose the second option.

lol yea I’m seriously considering dental school now after some research and talking to others. I was actually going to ask you about it sometime. I wanted to become a physician because of my interest in health/fitness/nutrition but the more I research the more I see that you really don’t get much time with patients and that its really a quick and obvious diagnosis followed by filling out a prescription. Along with 55+ hours a week, being on call, dealing with malpractice and insurance issues, etc…

Dentistry on the other hand seems to have less hours, more flexibility, just as high of pay, less malpractice/insurance issues, and it’s potentially easier to open a practice. Apparently its slightly harder to actually get into dental school now and keep a practice open but overall it’s seeming to be the better option[/quote]

Hint: You misspelled “medical” and I was joking with you. Dental school isn’t any easier. You will give up your social life for a few years. Many of the people I knew who got married in dental school ended up divorced by the end of it. It is stressful and time consuming, just like I would assume law school is like.

The actual career does seem to be less stressful than medicine, however, I work pretty long hours…I’m just not literally “working” the entire time. Dental school was hard to get into when I did it. I am sure it is even harder now.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Hint: You misspelled “medical” and I was joking with you. Dental school isn’t any easier. You will give up your social life for a few years. Many of the people I knew who got married in dental school ended up divorced by the end of it. It is stressful and time consuming, just like I would assume law school is like.

The actual career does seem to be less stressful than medicine, however, I work pretty long hours…I’m just not literally “working” the entire time. Dental school was hard to get into when I did it. I am sure it is even harder now. [/quote]

Didn’t even notice that, I guess I just combined medical and dental lol.

And yea I know dental school sure as hell won’t be easy, I’m expecting those years of my life to unfortunately not be much other than working my ass off studying, working out, and seeing friends/family occasionally.

By the way how many days/hours per day do you generally work? And could you explain a little about how you say your not actually working the entire time?

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Hint: You misspelled “medical” and I was joking with you. Dental school isn’t any easier. You will give up your social life for a few years. Many of the people I knew who got married in dental school ended up divorced by the end of it. It is stressful and time consuming, just like I would assume law school is like.

The actual career does seem to be less stressful than medicine, however, I work pretty long hours…I’m just not literally “working” the entire time. Dental school was hard to get into when I did it. I am sure it is even harder now.

Didn’t even notice that, I guess I just combined medical and dental lol.

And yea I know dental school sure as hell won’t be easy, I’m expecting those years of my life to unfortunately not be much other than working my ass off studying, working out, and seeing friends/family occasionally.

By the way how many days/hours per day do you generally work? And could you explain a little about how you say your not actually working the entire time? [/quote]

Example: I am treating a patient right now. I did the procedure and my assistant is finishing up so we can send the case off to the lab. My actual work time may be 10-15min even though the entire case took 45min to finish. Unless I have several cases going at the same time (which depends on the day of the week and the time of day), that means there is some time right there where I am not literally “working” on a patient myself.

Usual work days are 8-5, 9-6. Last year I worked 3-4 days a week.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Hint: You misspelled “medical” and I was joking with you. Dental school isn’t any easier. You will give up your social life for a few years. Many of the people I knew who got married in dental school ended up divorced by the end of it. It is stressful and time consuming, just like I would assume law school is like.

The actual career does seem to be less stressful than medicine, however, I work pretty long hours…I’m just not literally “working” the entire time. Dental school was hard to get into when I did it. I am sure it is even harder now.

Didn’t even notice that, I guess I just combined medical and dental lol.

And yea I know dental school sure as hell won’t be easy, I’m expecting those years of my life to unfortunately not be much other than working my ass off studying, working out, and seeing friends/family occasionally.

By the way how many days/hours per day do you generally work? And could you explain a little about how you say your not actually working the entire time?

Example: I am treating a patient right now. I did the procedure and my assistant is finishing up so we can send the case off to the lab. My actual work time may be 10-15min even though the entire case took 45min to finish. Unless I have several cases going at the same time (which depends on the day of the week and the time of day), that means there is some time right there where I am not literally “working” on a patient myself.

Usual work days are 8-5, 9-6. Last year I worked 3-4 days a week.[/quote]

Sounds like a sweet gig, though I could never understand people who go to medical school. First off, it’s like 8 years of school to become a medical doctor?

Me, I go to school for 3 years, and when I’ll make more money than my doctor ever could when I’m done. I’ll work just 6 months out of every year, too. I could never understand why there aren’t way more people wanting to work offshore. The school I go to produce way more teachers, nurses, and engineers than people with nautical degrees.

I guess I’m just a capitalist asshole. I’m going for the best paid job.

nobody is insulting weight trainers. but we all do have low self esteem. the gym is the most neurotic place because everybody there wants to change themself. i am not saying that is bad but that is a self esteem issue

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Example: I am treating a patient right now. I did the procedure and my assistant is finishing up so we can send the case off to the lab. My actual work time may be 10-15min even though the entire case took 45min to finish. Unless I have several cases going at the same time (which depends on the day of the week and the time of day), that means there is some time right there where I am not literally “working” on a patient myself.

Usual work days are 8-5, 9-6. Last year I worked 3-4 days a week.[/quote]

9 hours a day is a lot but not ridiculous and 3-4 days a week sounds pretty damn good. Also it seems your able to spend a good amount of the time there on these forums or doing other things like you said so that’s another positive.

[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:

Sounds like a sweet gig, though I could never understand people who go to medical school. First off, it’s like 8 years of school to become a medical doctor?

Me, I go to school for 3 years, and I’ll make more money than my doctor ever could when I’m done. I’ll work just 6 months out of every year, too. I could never understand why there aren’t way more people wanting to work offshore. The school I go to produce way more teachers, nurses, and engineers than people with nautical degrees.

I guess I’m just a capitalist asshole. I’m going for the best paid job.
[/quote]

more than any doctor ever could, so your making well over $600,000 a year and only working 6 months a year? What exactly is this job you’ll have?

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

more than any doctor ever could, so your making well over $600,000 a year and only working 6 months a year? What exactly is this job you’ll have?[/quote]

More than MY doctor. Just an ordinary medical doctor, still he did go to school for 8 years.

My long term goal is to make Captain on an offshore vessel, maybe seismic, maybe anchor handling. I can’t be sure, I’ll go with what looks best at the time. I also know ordinary fishermen that make around a million a year, norwegian currency. I think we are about 6 to 1 on the dollar now. Obviously their captain makes 2 or 3 times that amount.

I often wonder the same thing sometimes, is it an obsessive compulsive or poor self image thing? I just like relieving stress while sculpting my body. I also like being able to lift heavy things outside of the gym if I need to, along with feeling I am better prepared to protect my friends and family if need be. Why would a person want to be weak when they can be strong?

[quote]eremesu wrote:
nobody is insulting weight trainers. but we all do have low self esteem. the gym is the most neurotic place because everybody there wants to change themself. i am not saying that is bad but that is a self esteem issue[/quote]

Here we go…

[quote]eremesu wrote:
nobody is insulting weight trainers. but we all do have low self esteem. [/quote]

Wait, all of us do? Every single person trying to make progress in the gym is doing so because they have low self esteem? Does this mean people who don’t do anything to care for what shape they are in have high self esteem?