[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
Went To check out chaos and pain and came back with some good articles and this name Gracyanne Barbosa. And that was worth this whole thread[/quote]
Check out her Tumblr page …
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WOW. I need a cigarette.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Zyzz got laid and got a lot of cash. Thats what a lot of young people want so whats to stop them?
SOme of these people will go into weightlifting, strongman and BB’ing. Who cares about those who want to act 'ard and wear hipster clothes?[/quote]
I could be wrong but it looks like he made zero cash -his family had to make an appeal for funds for his funeral and his protein only came out 2 months before died.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
Went To check out chaos and pain and came back with some good articles and this name Gracyanne Barbosa. And that was worth this whole thread[/quote]
Check out her Tumblr page …
[/quote]
This is my future wife and mother of my children.
Never heard of chestbrah or astheticsbrah but I do think those names are pretty hilarious.
Wishing I could change my screen name to StacheBRAH lol
[quote]gregron wrote:
Never heard of chestbrah or astheticsbrah but I do think those names are pretty hilarious.
Wishing I could change my screen name to StacheBRAH lol[/quote]
lol i don’t think anyone’s ever been called aestheticsbrah so you may be able to coin that one, chestbrah does exist in real life though
[quote]Edevus wrote:
Chestbrah is not “revered” over at BB.com, all the opposite. He’s hated for being an awkward individual leeching from his brother’s (Zyzz) popularity to sell supplements.
Just watch this. Terrible.
The Mayans were wrong. The end of the world will be 12/12/12.
LOL, Zyzzzzzzz!
This camel sodomizer’s pretty boy face, hair and tattoos in all likelihood wet more cunts than his physique alone. LOL at all the losers out there stampeding to the gym in efforts to emulate him. Too bad his “aura” is not something you can get or replicate via diet, training, drugs etc…
Good riddance!
[quote]anonym wrote:
People like zyzz because he is a testament to what one can do with their lives if they work hard and play the game right. [/quote]
But…he didn’t play the game right. He played it in ways that would get most people in jail if they publicly displayed the same actions outside of a very specific target group. I think that may also be what Stu is getting at. He looked to be in great shape. He did not look to be in a degree of development that NEEDED steroid use. It was a choice he made. I’m not even judging him for it, I am just noticing your response seems to imply he was some ultimate good role model…and I don’t think anyone outside of that target group shares the same sentiment.
these guys are the fitness Kardashians. Just famous for being famous, with no real talent or skill…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
People like zyzz because he is a testament to what one can do with their lives if they work hard and play the game right. [/quote]
But…he didn’t play the game right. He played it in ways that would get most people in jail if they publicly displayed the same actions outside of a very specific target group. I think that may also be what Stu is getting at. He looked to be in great shape. He did not look to be in a degree of development that NEEDED steroid use. It was a choice he made. I’m not even judging him for it, I am just noticing your response seems to imply he was some ultimate good role model…and I don’t think anyone outside of that target group shares the same sentiment.[/quote]
From what I understand the guy was a stripper, and he was playing a game as the partying and self-promotion increased his visibility and ‘value’. He likely earned and was able to ask for more money to perform at events since his internet popularity drew a larger crowd. As for the steroid use, though not needed, they were probably an aid to building and maintaining his body in the absence of proper nutrition, training, and rest.
Something I find interesting with the in-pursuit-of-aesthetics crowd anonym described where “getting ripped, partying it up and getting laid is what it’s all about” is the application of the word “aesthetics”. The contextual use appears to allow young men to note and compliment another on his overall attractiveness - I’ve seen it applied to the face and body, and even fashion and style - without inferring anything about the sexuality of either. It removes the ‘threat’ of a homosexual undertone. When a bunch of guys are sitting around and chatting about their prettiness I suppose a language has to evolve so they can do what women have for generations: develop a body for the purpose of inspiring desire and envy ("u 'mirin?), and talk about who’s hot and who’s not.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
But…he didn’t play the game right. He played it in ways that would get most people in jail if they publicly displayed the same actions outside of a very specific target group.[/quote]
What did he do that would have sent him to jail? Dancing/doing push-ups in a crosswalk?
If his methods made him famous without getting him in trouble, I fail to see how HE played it wrong. Was he just that lucky?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think that may also be what Stu is getting at. He looked to be in great shape. He did not look to be in a degree of development that NEEDED steroid use. It was a choice he made. I’m not even judging him for it, I am just noticing your response seems to imply he was some ultimate good role model…and I don’t think anyone outside of that target group shares the same sentiment.[/quote]
Well, my initial response wasn’t mean to suggest anything of the sort, which is why I riddled that post with qualifiers such as “his target audience”, “most teenagers looking to get into lifting, particularly the ones who aren’t particularly successful at meeting girls”, “teenagers who want to flip their lives around by getting blahblahblah” and things like that.
Again, his appeal seems to be with a very specific target audience, which explains the OP’s question of “what’s up” with that crew.
So, no… he’s not the ultimate role model and I wouldn’t suggest anyone try to imitate him. Lessons that CAN be learned from him, though, would be the value of hard work, effective self-promotion, using the internet as a marketing tool, not giving a fuck, and, yes, playing the game right.
[quote]fncj wrote:
Something I find interesting with the in-pursuit-of-aesthetics crowd anonym described where “getting ripped, partying it up and getting laid is what it’s all about” is the application of the word “aesthetics”. The contextual use appears to allow young men to note and compliment another on his overall attractiveness - I’ve seen it applied to the face and body, and even fashion and style - without inferring anything about the sexuality of either. It removes the ‘threat’ of a homosexual undertone. When a bunch of guys are sitting around and chatting about their prettiness I suppose a language has to evolve so they can do what women have for generations: develop a body for the purpose of inspiring desire and envy ("u 'mirin?), and talk about who’s hot and who’s not.[/quote]
It’s the “no homo” of 2012.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
But…he didn’t play the game right. He played it in ways that would get most people in jail if they publicly displayed the same actions outside of a very specific target group.[/quote]
What did he do that would have sent him to jail? Dancing/doing push-ups in a crosswalk?
If his methods made him famous without getting him in trouble, I fail to see how HE played it wrong. Was he just that lucky?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think that may also be what Stu is getting at. He looked to be in great shape. He did not look to be in a degree of development that NEEDED steroid use. It was a choice he made. I’m not even judging him for it, I am just noticing your response seems to imply he was some ultimate good role model…and I don’t think anyone outside of that target group shares the same sentiment.[/quote]
Well, my initial response wasn’t mean to suggest anything of the sort, which is why I riddled that post with qualifiers such as “his target audience”, “most teenagers looking to get into lifting, particularly the ones who aren’t particularly successful at meeting girls”, “teenagers who want to flip their lives around by getting blahblahblah” and things like that.
Again, his appeal seems to be with a very specific target audience, which explains the OP’s question of “what’s up” with that crew.
So, no… he’s not the ultimate role model and I wouldn’t suggest anyone try to imitate him. Lessons that CAN be learned from him, though, would be the value of hard work, effective self-promotion, using the internet as a marketing tool, not giving a fuck, and, yes, playing the game right.[/quote]
He would actually harass people in the streets and theres a video of him just taking over a stand at a muscle expo. nothing too bad but the guys weren’t necessarily role models by any means.
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Never heard of chestbrah or astheticsbrah but I do think those names are pretty hilarious.
Wishing I could change my screen name to StacheBRAH lol[/quote]
lol i don’t think anyone’s ever been called aestheticsbrah so you may be able to coin that one, chestbrah does exist in real life though[/quote]
Because of this thread Paulie, I now add “brah” to everything workout/bodybuilding related and give myself a little chuckle when I’m at the gym. Latsbrah, Deltsbrah, Flyesbrah, Massbrah, Symmetrybrah…it’s getting out of control! lol
[quote]Bmad wrote:
[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Never heard of chestbrah or astheticsbrah but I do think those names are pretty hilarious.
Wishing I could change my screen name to StacheBRAH lol[/quote]
lol i don’t think anyone’s ever been called aestheticsbrah so you may be able to coin that one, chestbrah does exist in real life though[/quote]
Because of this thread Paulie, I now add “brah” to everything workout/bodybuilding related and give myself a little chuckle when I’m at the gym. Latsbrah, Deltsbrah, Flyesbrah, Massbrah, Symmetrybrah…it’s getting out of control! lol[/quote]
bahahaha, totes righteousBRAH
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
But…he didn’t play the game right. He played it in ways that would get most people in jail if they publicly displayed the same actions outside of a very specific target group.[/quote]
What did he do that would have sent him to jail? Dancing/doing push-ups in a crosswalk?
If his methods made him famous without getting him in trouble, I fail to see how HE played it wrong. Was he just that lucky?
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Uh, yeah…real lucky.
Where is he now?
Didn’t he die of an overdose? I would say his “methods” led to his death. I don’t understand people who see otherwise.
I mean, if your entire life is built around taking the easy way out to get women and to be noticed (again the point being made by Stu about drug use I believe when he could have done that naturally) …along with playing to the en vogue crowd in an effort to be a star for the soul purpose of making fun of other people and being “popular” on the internet…how can anyone be surprised at how it ended?
I am a little surprised at anyone who does act like he helped “uplift” so many youth. He taught them it was all about show…and no substance. I am not sure that is the lesson that will help that target audience the most. That seems to be exactly what is killing them and making them the least interesting or trend setting generation of all time.
[quote]fncj wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
Something I find interesting with the in-pursuit-of-aesthetics crowd anonym described where “getting ripped, partying it up and getting laid is what it’s all about” is the application of the word “aesthetics”. The contextual use appears to allow young men to note and compliment another on his overall attractiveness - I’ve seen it applied to the face and body, and even fashion and style - without inferring anything about the sexuality of either. It removes the ‘threat’ of a homosexual undertone. When a bunch of guys are sitting around and chatting about their prettiness I suppose a language has to evolve so they can do what women have for generations: develop a body for the purpose of inspiring desire and envy ("u 'mirin?), and talk about who’s hot and who’s not.[/quote]
Good point, never thought about that.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Uh, yeah…real lucky.
Where is he now?
Didn’t he die of an overdose? I would say his “methods” led to his death. I don’t understand people who see otherwise.[/quote]
He died in a sauna, though I don’t know anything besides that and the fact that the autopsy revealed a congenital heart defect. Did drugs contribute? Perhaps.
Did you skip over that part where I summed up my thoughts on his “methods”: Lessons that CAN be learned from him, though, would be the value of hard work, effective self-promotion, using the internet as a marketing tool, not giving a fuck, and, yes, playing the game right.
I ALSO took the time to clarify that him “playing the game” meant the way he went about appealing to his target audience. He knew what they responded to and he delivered. To my knowledge, none of them cite blowing lines in a sauna as one of his more appealing characteristics and one of the general trends on /fit/ is to chalk his death up to irresponsible drug/steroid use… so, it’s not like he was inspiring many to do that sorta stuff.
Now, the rest of your post is nonsense that I didn’t actually suggest, but I did want to respond to this part:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That seems to be exactly what is killing them and making them the least interesting or trend setting generation of all time.[/quote]
Zyzz’s personality is, in large part, a byproduct of the environment seen on 4chan.
That site netted 22,000,000 unique visitors last month.
It has Alexa Traffic Ranks 991 (Global) and 466 (US).
So… I don’t know what to tell you, other than the fact that AT LEAST 22 million people think you’re full of shit. When we factor in all the memes, gifs, jokes, phrases, pics, etc, that are ubiquitous in nearly ALL informal Internet forums (having leaked from 4chan), we will note that millions and millions more people seem to think that the material coming out of that site IS interesting (even if they don’t know that it originated there). We can also conclude that they are setting trends just fine in their own world (cyberspace).
Keeping in mind, too, that an EXTREMELY large portion of the site’s posters are still in HS (the vast majority being HS/early college students, from what I’ve seen), and I fail to see what kind of revolution you are expecting.
But, hey – cool story, bro.
[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Good point, never thought about that.[/quote]
Yeah, it’s pretty much ‘no homo2.0’ – for the more sophisticated admirer of enviable same-sex attributes.