Disclaimer. I am not going to start a cycle, nor am I going to any time soon. I have heard several people talking about when the earliest you should start using gear should be. When is the earliest in your opinion?
If you are on point with diet and gym from the day you turn 18, then maybe 25.
Really too many other factors to determine when AAS are “needed” for that next significant step.
I would somewhat agree with you. It is my personal belief that one should have a solid foundation of atleast 4 years beforehand, and should have reached his peak in natural testosterine amount.
After you have made all the kids you want to make or 35… Some of you dipshits run your first cycles in early 20s with every fucking compound you can buy…Then you act all butt hurt cuz you broke your dick for 10lbs of muscle…dont be that guy
The real answer is when your bodys hit its max poetential naty or when you need some juice to kick father times ass or at least make it a fair fight
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I agree with you on a moral standpoint. I will ask you to edit what you said though. I want this to be a thread where people that dislike facts won’t get butt hurt. I am already in a conversation where people are argueing against that, I don’t want that here as well, on a post that was just for fun.
Its not from morality. Im no saint. But I think far too many young guys just wanna juice & dont do the research or weigh the consequences. Now days any turd can buy online from ugls & with advent of bit coin its just slightly harder than amazon. I dont give a rats ass if someone just wants to look good & bang skanks or make the NFL. I just see young folk skip steps like having a decent AI or PCT or doing these bullshit mix stacks they sell. People should feel there bodys out with 1 compound then progress to bigger stax as they grow…because lets keep it 100 nobody ever does just 1 cycle. There used to be stickys here about beginer cycles but its gone now…thats my $0.02
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I meant a moral stand as far as the users complaining.
Case in point: the guy who just started a thread where he says he’s 20 and starting his third cycle which includes Deca. What will he be doing by the time he’s 30, and what did his dick do to make him hate it so much?
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