I don’t think anyone is disagreeing with your drop in performance, your numbers clearly show there is a drop. I just think most of the responses including my own on here suggest that is isn’t abnormal. The fact that you don’t like that response is really down to you. If you are sure there is something wrong then maybe seek proper medical advice rather than just asking some random strangers on the internet. For those of us who have been doing this for years and years, it is extremely rare (but not impossible) to have someones training issues caused by some strange un-diagnosed medical issue. Most drops in training performance are fixed with good programming, proper diet and rest, effort and consistency. Good luck with your doctors appointment and blood work. Hopefully he can help confirm your own diagnosis.
thank you.
I know I’m very weak, but I have been in this game for more than 10 years myself so I already have a lot of experiences with normal day to day fluctuation in performance. I have no doubt that the way my body has been reacting to training this year has been very different than how my body responded in its normal state like it did last year and before.
Psh. What does he know? Obviously he got big in spite of his mistakes. It’s clearly all genetics.
100%. When I eat and sleep, I’m a superhero. When I don’t, I suck. I also didn’t want to go the medication route, but it turns out reality doesn’t care what I want to be true. I just choose which green grass’ manure I want to shovel each night, and life goes on.
I didn’t mean to jump into a lecture, but the parent in me simply can’t help it.
Yea, you should do that. Maybe take a long time off from this forum as well. It will help your fingers recover.
Dude. I addressed this. And you said you’re scared to go to a doctor. How is anyone going to help you if you’re not willing to take the most basic steps to actually FINDING out what’s wrong, if there is anything in the first place?
Wonderful. Bye.
The disability is in the eye of the beholder, you just don’t see it.
I’m beginning to question if this is a troll or not.
Nah. Just a whiny baby. I’ve met enough people in real life who are like this. And we’ve seen it on these forums so many times. Dude comes in with what APPEARS to be a legitimate question asking for help. He gets solid advice. Then he rejects all advice, eventually gets mad that people don’t agree that he’s some medical anomaly, takes his ball and goes home.
He’s just looking for an excuse to quit. And at this point, I support that decision.
There is an age-old saying that goes something like: People care more about their own slight headache than somebody else’s imminent demise.
You are taking this to a new extreme. Of course no one cares that you used to lift 215 for 7 reps and now you lift 215 for 5 reps. Do you find that strange? Do you care that I used to run a 5K in 19:30 but now struggle to break 21 minutes?
wow…just wow
pure hate, aggression and bitterness from everyone, just because I’m not immediately saying YES SIR to every precious ‘advise’ given.
everyone just want to keep mocking at me now, and accuse me of being a troll because I may have some disagreement of opinion with other members. they see me here as being disrespectful and insulting for that.
I wish I knew better about this community ahead of time. That was my mistake. Too bad I can’t un-do this now.
I can’t do anything to stop all the mocking comments on me, and it’s starting to become worthless to reply to those toxic comments, but regardless of what you say, I will take this break from training, but I will return to training. I’m weak, I’m broken, but I’m not a quitter you are making me out to be.
Not really, but feel free to tell us how you really feel.
Why make a thread just to insist something is wrong with you, none of the given advice will work, then refuse to get it checked out in any professional capacity?
Sorry if ^ seems to hateful for you.
If I ever felt like I got myself too far into the mud like you have - be it mental or physical - what I’d do in your situation for starters is forget all my old numbers, they are history and therefore irrelevant. I’d change my training modality, maybe focus on performance for a bit or change all my lifts. If I’m pissed off with a regressing squat, bugger it, I’m gonna focus on front squat for the next 3-6months. My bench has gone to shit? Meh, lemme see how far I can progress with weighted dips or something else I have no solid numbers to compare to the old me.
Regather, make some new goals (if you don’t really have a solid one already), come in from a completely different angle. In the meantime you can get your bloods and stuff checked. If you’re super concerned that your body is breaking down and something is wrong, give yourself until the new year, focus on other areas of your life and get into a good place, relieve yourself of the pressure you’re putting on yourself… You ain’t gonna lose any measurable amount of muscle in 3 weeks if you continue to eat well… and there’s no way you’ll still feel you’ve got yourself into a recovery hole.
no hate, no aggression. Just annoyance at having my time wasted, that’s all. I promise I’ll get over it 
In all seriousness though. I don’t think you realize how toxic YOU’VE come across. And that’s why you’ve gotten the reaction you have from a community that, in general, is very patient and helpful with people who are receptive.
The problem wasn’t disagreement, at least not on my part. It was your unwillingness to do what is necessary to help yourself. You didn’t say going to a Dr was a bad idea, you said it was too scary for you. And you ADMITTED that you didn’t want to go to someone who would tell you to do something you don’t want to do. Which is exactly what’s happened within this thread, and that was the first major red flag for me. But even after that, I recommended a way for you to circumvent going to a doctor, and even still, you resisted.
You came into this thread having already decided what you’re going to do, which is why it was a waste of time for all of us. There was nothing any of us could have said that would have changed your planned course of action. That’s pretty much the definition of a time waster, and to me, that’s FAR more toxic than anything anyone else has brought into this thread.
Some genius prognosticator called this way back in post 33… just saying…
Yeah, but that guy’s a schmuck though. Never liked him.
Dude, neither do I. You think you’ve got problems? I have to listen to him every day!
Yeah, thank you. I will take a break, I’ll maintain a good diet.
My goal is to return my body to be at its fresh state so that my body will respond to training the way it did in 2021, not how it did in 2022.
I should probably force myself to not think of the old numbers like you say, start low and train more conservatively, so that I’d hopefully not end up this way again.
Even if it takes me more than a whole year to reach my old numbers, I really want to progress like I did in 2021. I’d have to accept having some bad days here and there, but I want to always be able to bounce back within 2 months when my numbers are down.
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