[quote]Caine wrote:
I’ve been following this thread since its inception and have come to realize one very important thing.
I am proud of my race.
HUMAN!
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Lol, AFTER reading this thread!?
Doogie, if you choose to focus on a sideline to the whole issue, trying to twist it such that I am racist, I don’t think there is any point in discussing it. Anyway, it was pretty late, so sorry for the tone of my last post.
Read some of my posts. If you really want to know, I’ve addressed the issue pretty clearly.
You can’t wish away history. If you want to respect your fellow man, it will require some level of sensitivity. If not, that is your choice. Many will judge it the “wrong choice”.
It doesn’t make me racist because I choose to adjust my actions to show appropriate respect and consideration where it is due. As much as you want to ignore it, historical actions did occur that require sensitivity.
For example, the holocaust. I will never in my lifetime wear a swastica, paint a swastica on something or goose step around with my arm raised. Perhaps I am discriminating against Nazi’s with my views, but I do not support the persecution that they enacted and I will argue against anyone trying to promote their cause.
The way you argue, we should ignore everything everyone does… regardless of situations in society. And remember, large significant historic events take time to fade… it isn’t like people alive today have never had their thoughts and attitudes affected by Nazi’s, terrorists, racists or what not.
If you can’t see that some things should not be done, simply out of respect for others, then you are ignorant (in the meaning that isn’t meant as an insult). You miraculously have remained unaware of huge issues in society either because they have magically remained absent in your private world, or you simply have never opened your eyes to see them.
Take a look around.
It is not racist to be sensitive to the issues faced by others and determine that you will refrain from certain actions or statements which will appear to various persecuted minorites to be supportive of a group that has been oppressing them.
I am trying, unsuccessfully I might add, to point this out. However, you do obviously have freedom of speech. You can ignore it. However, so does everyone else, and we can point out our displeasure at your actions or statements as well. It’s the way the world works.
So, in this very thread you have the information you need to understand why some things when said are harmful to other groups of people. Just like I’ll never wear a swastica, I’ll never wear a clan outfit or burn crosses. While these examples are obvious, I personally will never proclaim things like “white pride” or “white power” either.
These phrases, much like swasticas and other symbols, have been coopted by racist groups… and I, personally, will not associate myself with those groups by sharing their language – which implies to the recipient that I share those beliefs. I do not. Persecuted groups seriously need to know that many do not ascribe to and vehemently oppose such actions, statements and beliefs.
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Strangely, and this is somewhat off topic, I see that when black people try to argue against racism, they are often pegged as racist themselves. This is something I find puzzling and strange. A group that has and does face discrimination is also verbally pressured when they attempt to speak out about these issues.
Hell, in this very thread I’ve been called racist for trying to explain why some groups deserve consideration or respect. This amazes me. At the same time, it seems that precisely because I am not black I am able to avoid many of the counterarguments used when people point out various statements or actions are inappropriate.
Sorry, geeking out, I find some issues of interaction, the pressures used based on who is saying what, fascinating at times. I guess it is another possible topic area if anyone sees what I’m talking about.
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Finally, another off topic segue. I’ve thought about some of my posts… and there are two ways I can be wrong (of importance, there may be more).
Perhaps statements being made are not racially motivated, and simply represent some ignorance in society. So, I could be wrong and overreact in some of my posts.
If I am wrong, this is an error that I am comfortable making. I would rather speak strongly against something such as racism, in error if it was not there, then remain silent because I was not sure when in fact it was present.
Is that clear? I can sleep at night knowing I fought racism when there was none. I can’t sleep at night knowing I didn’t fight racism because I said nothing on the chance it might not have been racism.
To everyone out there, think about which of these two mistakes you would rather make.
If the roles were reversed and a african ameican was asking a similar question about white - americans you would not be called a troll.
Vroom - sometimes African - anti racists are racist themselves. Like Malcom X except that he wasn’t racist by the time he got a little older before he died.
FightinIrish26
Please stop quoting this whole post verbatim.
Lumbernac, nobody has tried to claim that racism is limited to white people. Have you been paying attention at all?
[quote]BIGERIC wrote:
If the roles were reversed and a african ameican was asking a similar question about white - americans you would not be called a troll.[/quote]
If the roles were truly reversed, I am sure they would.
I think that Spike Lee is racist. He has suggested on TV that the government blew up the levees in order to kill black people. I hate all this stupid kill whitie junk but it is funny sometimes 
Columnist Jon Sanders of the John Locke Foundation in Raleigh, NC has written a blog entry that reveals just how easy it is to get a job teaching Africana Studies at N.C. State University. It also demonstrates how the diversity movement is bringing people together in the great state of North Carolina.
Sanders? recent blog directs readers to C-SPAN online, where they can click on the recent archives and scroll down until they find the “Black Media Forum on the Image of Black Americans in Mainstream Media.” This was a program presented on October 14th at Howard University. Dr. Kamau Kambon makes his appearance about three hours into the four-hour event.
Dr. Kambon’s closing remarks ? given about twenty minutes before the program?s conclusion - are chilling:
"And then finally I want to say that we need one idea, and we're not thinking about a solution to the problem. We're thinking about all these other things, but we're not dealing with a solution to the problem. And we have to start to think about a solution to the problem so that these young brothers and sisters who are here now, who are 15, 16 or 17, are not here 25 years later talking about these same problems.
Now how do I know that the white people know that we are going to come up with a solution to the problem? I know it because they have retina scans, they have what they call racial profiling, DNA banks, and they?re monitoring our people to try to prevent the one person from coming up with the one idea. And the one idea is, how we are going to exterminate white people because that in my estimation is the only conclusion I have come to.
We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve this problem. Now I don?t care whether you clap or not, but I?m saying to you that we need to solve this problem because they are going to kill us. And I will leave on that. So we just have to just set up our own system and stop playing and get very serious and not be diverted from coming up with a solution to the problem and the problem on the planet is white people. "
Dr. Kambon also said that “white people want to kill you ? because that is part of their plan” and that ?the only nger on the planet is the white man and the white woman, and our people are not ngers, they are imitation n**gers.?
An official at N.C. State University claims that Dr. Kambon - once a visiting professor being paid by the taxpayers of North Carolina ? is no longer affiliated with the university. But, if that is true, why is he still listed on the university?s Africana Studies faculty page?
After you visit that site, I bet you?ll have the same question. And, like me, I hope you?ll write the Africana Studies Department (afs@social.chass.ncsu.edu) demanding an answer. And, while you?re at it, ask them why they hired a genocidal racist in the first place.
Damn the secret is out, ready the retinal scanner and dont tell vroom or fightin irish… lol I love the kill whitey guys. 