I didn’t say you don’t know how to read. I said that you should learn how to read before you respond, meaning that you didn’t read what I said before you responded.
You are a special kind of tit
Ouch.
It sounds like you tried the program, felt it wasn’t working based on feel then changed it in a way that made it actually not work.
Given this train of thought and outcome, how do you feel your are in any situation to make a call on optimal?
Because a guy who is part owner of a company who sells a competing program misrepresented the truth and told you so?
I’d be upset at him rather than posting evidence of how I was duped.
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Okay. In the future you may want to clarify these sorts of things because there are like 500 5/3/1 templates. I’m pretty sure @T3hPwnisher has run them all, lol.
They can be vastly different.
Better is subjective. I happen to really like Krypteia. I ran it for several months and fucked my knee up in the process. Wendler even says it’s a young man’s template. It’s not “better” to be icing a knee for a few weeks as opposed to gaining.
I realize I phrased that poorly. I don’t know if he personally runs it (he might). That’s how he prefers to train his clients. You can tell he really likes that template.
The question was about bicep growth and a picture of a young non-elite gymnast was posted. People responded with “try gymnastics”. You replied, “gymnastics won’t render much growth arms”. You did mention some lat and shoulder growth but again said: “it just doesn’t have much carry over”. In other words, it will not build the bicep like the OPs brother wants. This is obviously contradictory to what most people would say; including, Sommers a world-renowned gymnastics coach.
Are you starting to see why people are responding to you like they are?
I used it for 5-7 months, years ago. I made progress, but what dictates the value of a program is how well it gets somebody closer or to their goals. For example (all numbers will be arbitrary instead of realistic), program a gets the averag person from a 405 bench press to a 430 bench press in 5 weeks. Program b gets the average person from a 405 bench to a 430 bench in 7 weeks. Program a is a better program for the bench press. It is more optimally progressing people. I made a variation to the program so that I can make more progress, since there was a ton of room for improvement.
I only posted Allan’s video because it talks about the issue that many run into with 5/3/1. Somebody was argueing that I was wrong for saying that the base program lacks volume and has low loads. When I tried to explain it myself he refused to believe it, so I thought maybe one of the many people that found the same problems as evident could potentially help.
I would like to see videos of your best 3 lifts please.
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I responded accordingly. He said 5/3/1, not 5/3/1 with blank variation.
Yes, better is subjective. In your case, it definitly is. On average it is a more optimized approach though.
I can actually believe you when you say he runs the variation. I couldn’t believe him running the base form, which is why I reaponded as I did.
I realize that the question was on bicep growth and that the guy in the picture probably is not an elite level gymnast. When I mentioned an elite athlete, many times I was referring to overall, not in the sports ranks, and I believe that I clearified that a few times above. My reasoning for saying that is difficult for many that have not been gymnasts to understand. You can take an average person and put him on a baseball team. He will probably nit end up going pro, but will improve greatly. You can do the same with aan on a soccer team. He will likely get the same result. The same thing with aan on a football team. Gymnastics is different though. You have to pass major mental barriers, cause that shit is scary, as well as being capable of doing things well that some of the most athletic people in the world will never be able to do well before you can even get to what will create a reasonable hypertrophy. The chances of the original poster’s brother getting to that point at any time in his life is extremely slim. That is when an amount that one would want would come in, but it would still be little to none compared to the shoulders and lats.
I always knew why people were responding as such, as well. I have thoughts that contridicted their own, as well as evidence, reason, or both to back upy claims.
That is irrelevant
I would have to go out of my training to prove to stranger how strong I am
I am a bidybuilder.
3 reasons why I will not do so.
I think you might be the only person on here that thinks 5/3/1 is referencing the original 5/3/1 template. There have been at least 3 if not 4 books written with tons of variations, some with a lot of volume, since then. The original has to be at least a decade old at this point.
I disagree and so do a lot of people. Paul Carter just wrote a few days ago how he thinks high-frequency lifting is not optimal. It also matters what exactly it’s “optimal” for.
Ya, I did gymnastics for several years. I think you’re overstating this a wee bit.
Super
It is relevant because I think you’ve made a number of statements that suggest you don’t know what you’re talking about. Posting this would give you some authority and make you stop looking like a schlep.
In your opinion what to do my brother for build the arms like the gymnast? He do gymnastic or a program for grow biceps triceps and shoulders?
How old is your brother?
He is 28 years old
Oh, lol. 5/3/1…
Seriously, he should get on this site, click on where it says workouts
and he should pick one. Run it for a few months and see what happens.
I only assumed basic 5/3/1 because he said 5/3/1. I will not assume any of the variations if no variations we’re mentioned.
You are right about saying there are different definitions of what is optimal. One could try going for strength, while another maybe size. A frequency of once a week for a certain area has been proven to be less effective than twice a week, expect for cases of illnesses or if the person is a very advanced lifter on either front.
That is interesting that you did gymnastics. What was the greatest skill that you achieved consistency on, as well as what aparatus?
I built my arms doing lots of squats 
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I used logic and evidence for my claims. You disagreeing with facts is your problems, not mine.
5/3/1 is about certain principles. It’s not a specific template. I don’t think you have a very good idea what 5/3/1 is.