[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Seeing as there is such a lively debate going on in here about race,colour,creed,affirmative action and so forth,I thought this would be well worth the read for some of our more ‘racially non apologetic’ fair skinned members.
Unequal Perspectives on Racial Equality
By Shankar Vedantam
Imagine that you are waiting in line to be born . . . Presently, you are scheduled to be born white. However, you are offered an alternative arrangement. In exchange for a cash gift, to be deposited in a bank account for you when you are born, you can choose to instead be born black.
Social psychologists Philip Mazzocco and Mahzarin Banaji once asked white volunteers how much money would cover the �??costs�?? of being born black instead of white. The volunteers guessed that about $5,000 ought to cover the lifetime disadvantages of being an average black person rather than an average white person, in the United States. By contrast, when asked how much they wanted to go without television, the volunteers demanded a million dollars.
Mazzocco and Banaji were taken aback: The average black person in America is 447 percent more likely to be imprisoned than the average white person, and 521 percent more likely to be murdered. Blacks earn 60 cents to the dollar compared with whites who have the same education levels and marital status. The black poverty rate is nearly twice the white poverty rate. Blacks tend to die five years earlier than whites; the infant mortality rate among black babies is nearly 1 1/2 times the rate among white babies. And because of long-standing patterns of inheritance, blacks and whites begin life with substantial disparities in family wealth.
�??The point we were making is, whatever the cost of being black might be, whites are vastly underestimating it,�?? said Mazzocco, of Ohio State University at Mansfield. �??You throw in the 5-to-1 wealth gap . . . if you wanted to put a dollar-and-cents value on the difference, you would come up with a number much larger than $5,000.�??
The unusual experiment is one of dozens that have found that whites tend to have a relatively rosy impression of what it means to be a black person in America. Whites are more than twice as likely as blacks to believe that the position of African Americans has improved a great deal. Blacks are more than twice as likely as whites to believe that conditions for African Americans are growing worse.
This long-standing war of perceptions created the perfect storm last week after sermons by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright �?? former pastor of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) �?? painted a picture of stark inequality at odds with white perceptions.
Mazzocco and Banaji, who teaches at Harvard, found that when volunteers learned about the disparities, they started to demand much larger sums of money.
�??Many whites assume blacks are making use of old crimes to gain present-day benefits that are unearned,�?? Mazzocco said. �??Underlying this is a misunderstanding and ignorance about black costs and white privilege.�??
But knowledge about disparities is not the only reason whites and blacks have different perceptions about racial equality. Social psychologist Richard Eibach at Yale University has shown that whites and blacks often employ different yardsticks to measure racial equality. Whites tend to measure progress by comparing the present and the past �?? and America has made giant strides since the Jim Crow era. Nonwhites, Eibach found, are likely to evaluate racial equality in comparison with an idealized future. These yardsticks create entirely different perceptions.
When Eibach asked each group to use the other�??s yardstick �?? whites to focus on the future and nonwhites to think about the past �?? the differences disappeared. Now, everyone agreed the country had come a long way �?? and had a long way to go.
In a speech last week, Obama similarly argued that his former pastor had failed to acknowledge how America had changed for the better. But Wright�??s critics, Obama added, were also wrong �?? because true equality is still remote.
The intriguing question prompted by Eibach�??s study is why whites and blacks are unconsciously drawn to different yardsticks. Eibach said one reason might be that racial equality means different things to whites and blacks: Whites see it as an ideal, blacks as a necessity. When people evaluate progress toward idealistic or optional goals �?? saving for a vacation �?? they tend to focus on progress made. But when people think of necessities �?? paying the rent �?? they focus on how much they are short.
In another set of experiments, social psychologist Amanda Brodish at the University of Michigan�??s Institute for Social Research showed that prejudice may play a role, too. Whites with high levels of prejudice �?? who think blacks are not as smart as whites, who think blacks and whites are inherently unequal, and who reported being uncomfortable with a black roommate �?? invariably evaluated racial equality only in comparison with the past.
By contrast, said Brodish�??s co-author, Patricia Devine of the University of Wisconsin at Madison, low-prejudice whites were equally willing to apply the yardsticks of both past and future.
While comparisons with a dreadful past and an ideal future produce glass-is-half-empty-vs.-half-full perceptions, the choices are not equivalent. Each perception is accurate, but Eibach said that progress toward true equality required whites to focus on where the country ought to be instead of becoming complacent about how far the country had come.
�??There is a disconnect between whites and blacks about what it feels like to be a victim of mundane discrimination,�?? Eibach concluded. �??There is a tendency to say, �??These mundane things are nothing like the past,�?? but the lived reality of bearing that weight �?? the frustrations and indignities �?? that is a major source of the disconnect.�??
Let the games begin.[/quote]
It’s interesting, but most of them can be summed up with the cost of being born to poor and/or uneducated parents, and living in a broken home. They’re correlated to race, but not caused by race.
Most of the stats are crap because they’re not specific enough - for example, show me the stat that says a black male with a B.S. in engineering, working as an engineer with 5 years work experience working as an engineer, living and working in NYC, will earn 60 cents for every dollar earned by a white guy with a B.S. in engineering, working as an engineer with 5 years work experience working as an engineer, living and working in NYC. To put it another way, it’s attributing to race a total measure with a lot of other causations.
The crime stats are interesting - but these give a better explanation: http://www.law.upenn.edu/blogs/dskeel/archives/2008/03/race_and_crimestuntz.html# ; Unequal Justice by William J. Stuntz :: SSRN
Unfortunately, infant mortality rates are also affected by poverty and particularly by drug use. We can discuss the cultural factors - predominantly diet - that affect the average life span. There may be genetics at play as well.
So, to sum it up - I don’t see a lot of these as predestined costs of being black.
