Congrats, that some heavy ass weight you moved. Most I heard people do on those was 315 max… But I bet you can do more with the standard bent form. Buzza, yes t-rows are amazing indeed, but they are a different exercise from normal bb rows.
[quote]desolator wrote:
Congrats, that some heavy ass weight you moved. Most I heard people do on those was 315 max… But I bet you can do more with the standard bent form. Buzza, yes t-rows are amazing indeed, but they are a different exercise from normal bb rows.[/quote]
Oh absolutely I can move more doing “standard” BB Rows…but then again, I can also back squat more than I can front squat…does that mean front squats are pointless? It’s just a matter of emphasizing different muscle groups with slightly different planes of motion/leverages, a somewhat insignificant difference in weight used isn’t a big deal.
Now, if we were comparing tricep kickbacks vs CGBP…yeah, there’s a big difference there haha.
I am sorry I have taken so long to reply, schedule has been hell lately. Anyway, I think Stu addressed another hunch I have been having. Despite that everyone says i need mass all over, I feel I do indeed have thickness, but all of it seems to be in the mid back area. Also it was mentioned my bicep development is good. I feel the stress from my rows is going mainly to these two areas, and not on my lats. How can I correct this?
Whenever I do pull ups or pull downs, my whole lats congest, and I honestly do feel the upper / outer area of my back being taxed with such movements, so what gives? Why is it that those area’s of my body still are lagging? I do lift heavy, and I do include weighted pullups (overhand grip, wider than shoulder grip) during my off season. I do plenty of cable pull downs (overhand, wider than shoulder grip), yet they have done nothing but give me the development I have. That’s why I feel I need to be doing more horizontal type row variations, but am afraid they will only thicken my mid-back and do jack shit for my lats.
My barbell rows do resemble a pendlay row more than a traditional 45 degree bent row. Thats something I plan to change. When doing barbell rows, I usually aim to hit my upper abdomen / lower chest with each rep. Should I aim higher? lower?? I also completely unlock my scap, as I reach for the floor on each eccentric. Should I keep constant tension between the scaps to perhaps make the lat’s work harder?
Danny, you honestly don’t have much thickness or width to your back. Once again, I’m not saying that to be an asshole, I’m being honest with you.
I think you just need to do what most people need to do…pick a few thickness movements for back, pick a few width movements for back, and focus on getting consistently stronger at them for a long period of time. If I had to pick for you, I’d say DB Rows, BB Rows, seated cable rows, and Tbar Rows for thickness, and rack chins, pullup variations, pendlay rows, and neutral grip pulldowns for width. As far as back training goes, pick 2 thickness movements to do during one workout (in addition to working 1-2 other body parts during that session), do 1-2 working sets of each, going 110% intensity on them. 2-3 days later, pick 2 width movements to do, do 2-3 working sets of each, but focus primarily on FEEL, not just weight moved, on width movements (pendlay rows are somewhat of an exception to this rule). 2-3 days later, repeat with the 2 thickness movements, 2-3 days later repeat with the width movements, etc etc etc.
Maybe you’re just used to seeing everyone around you with small backs and no development to speak of, and think you have plenty of thickness already or something like that…either way, keep at it, get stronger, eat, and get bigger. Good luck.