[quote]Molotov_Coktease wrote:
America has a beautiful flag…
Orion feels sexual tension with the rag
Lixy loves to hate it so much
he obsessively stalks it…and longs for its touch
all the while the flag fly’s free,
and doesn’t acknowledge the likes of thee…
Through constitutional departure we hold hope
With Mikeyali climbing the rope
Thunderbolt beacons… a light in the sky…
and Varqanir winks an eye for an eye
The Olympics play on, and the States are strong
reminding the world…why we belong
Wars rage on, and lives are cost
but the human heart has not been lost…
Triumph and failure go hand in hand
as we seek to lift a faltering land
I believe in my country through doubt and sorrow
and I will never sacrifice, the American tomorrow
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…so instead of a taxless utopia full of choice, you’re stuck with a government that steals from you at gunpoint. Are you proud USAians going to do something about it, or continue to point fingers to blame others and not make a change?
[quote]ephrem wrote:
…so instead of a taxless utopia full of choice, you’re stuck with a government that steals from you at gunpoint. Are you proud USAians going to do something about it, or continue to point fingers to blame others and not make a change?[/quote]
People can either relate to each other morally or by using force. Since altruism is very unnatural and in fact is an absence of morality (setting up an impossible standard for most men to follow), it then follows that people will simply lapse into using force. Look at Russia and Georgia as a prime example.
Altruism was invented to allow the use of force.
So, the answer to your question is: No. We will have another Dark Ages and perhaps humanity’s 3rd chance (our Founding Fathers regarded our system as humanity’s second chance, after the Roman Republic collapsed.) will happen. We have to have a long epoch of absolute tyranny by a global government first, which is the logically outcome of technology and universal altruism.
[quote]pookie wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…you’re certainly a few cards short of a full deck there HH…
Seems to be missing all the heart suit.
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“When we’ll see men starving all around us, your ‘heart’ won’t be of any earthly use to save them. And I’m heartless enough to say that when you scream, ‘But I didn’t know it!’, that you will NOT be forgiven.”
— Atlas Shrugged (from memory)
…it’s a game you play by their rules, that’s all. If you don’t like it, stop playing the game. Or continue to bitch about it, whatever makes you life worthwhile…
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Molotov_Coktease wrote:
America has a beautiful flag…
Orion feels sexual tension with the rag
Lixy loves to hate it so much
he obsessively stalks it…and longs for its touch
all the while the flag fly’s free,
and doesn’t acknowledge the likes of thee…
Through constitutional departure we hold hope
With Mikeyali climbing the rope
Thunderbolt beacons… a light in the sky…
and Varqanir winks an eye for an eye
The Olympics play on, and the States are strong
reminding the world…why we belong
Wars rage on, and lives are cost
but the human heart has not been lost…
Triumph and failure go hand in hand
as we seek to lift a faltering land
I believe in my country through doubt and sorrow
and I will never sacrifice, the American tomorrow
How long have you been working on this?[/quote]
Precisely as long as it took to push ‘reply’ and ‘submit’ Lol I thunked up a poem.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
No, you and many others will willingly swear fealty to murder for benevolent government and pretend its cause is your own.
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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
People can either relate to each other morally or by using force. Since altruism is very unnatural and in fact is an absence of morality (setting up an impossible standard for most men to follow), it then follows that people will simply lapse into using force. Look at Russia and Georgia as a prime example.
Altruism was invented to allow the use of force.
So, the answer to your question is: No. We will have another Dark Ages and perhaps humanity’s 3rd chance (our Founding Fathers regarded our system as humanity’s second chance, after the Roman Republic collapsed.) will happen. We have to have a long epoch of absolute tyranny by a global government first, which is the logically outcome of technology and universal altruism.
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So bizarre I think that if you were younger and more charismatic (perhaps you are in person, no idea) you could invent some local religious movement, along the lines of Manson or Aum Shinrikyo.
Do you really believe this?
My theory is you’re learning to type with your feet after a sad incident and basically just typing away…
“When we’ll see men starving all around us, your ‘heart’ won’t be of any earthly use to save them. And I’m heartless enough to say that when you scream, ‘But I didn’t know it!’, that you will NOT be forgiven.”
— Atlas Shrugged (from memory)
Quoting a vicious old ugly cunt will do nothing for this argument. That woman was a terrible writer who could not get laid to save her life, and her philosophies are things that only angry supremely angry, delusional people follow.[/quote]
Which books have you read? I think she’s a pretty good writer. Atlas shrugged and the fountainhead are better than some of her others that focused just on objectivism. Her later books are still well writen but can be a bit repetitive at times.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
sands wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
America became altruistic. It kept coming to the rescue of Britain and France. But altruism is counter to the principles of our government.
Really? There was no other reason/s or motives that America involved itself in the war?
As usual, altruism was used as an excuse, as a gateway to evil. No one would fight so that Morgan could get juicy war contracts (he did) or his 1% as the middleman for Engish/French bond sales (he did). Americans however did fight on the fields of France to save France and/or Britain. Why? What prompted millions of men to go fight a war that had absolutely no meaning to them? Do you think some farm kid from Indiana cared in any way about the losses of Britain at the Somme?
Fighting and dying to protect your country is one thing but to die for another one means that you’ve been tricked and victimised by evil men (like Churchill). It also means that you are altruistic.
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Its more the way that going to war was pushed and marketed towards that farm kid from Indiana rather than an overwhelming sense of altruism.
“Come fight the great evil, come one and all”
Preying on ignorance is not the same as millions choosing to do a good deed to there European neighbours.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
“When we’ll see men starving all around us, your ‘heart’ won’t be of any earthly use to save them. And I’m heartless enough to say that when you scream, ‘But I didn’t know it!’, that you will NOT be forgiven.”
— Atlas Shrugged (from memory)
or perhaps
“Pity makes suffering contagious.”
— Aristotle
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Not many representative of the brain suit either.
Don’t give up, you’ll hunt yourself a head eventually.
[quote]ephrem wrote:
…it’s a game you play by their rules, that’s all. If you don’t like it, stop playing the game. Or continue to bitch about it, whatever makes you life worthwhile…[/quote]
Now you’ve hit upon it. If the system becomes corrupt, even for the alleged purpose of the ‘public good’, then you SHOULD quit feeding the machine. Work at a low enough level so that you produce nothing in excess of your survival needs. Leave nothing for the do-gooder liberals. Go on strike.
“When we’ll see men starving all around us, your ‘heart’ won’t be of any earthly use to save them. And I’m heartless enough to say that when you scream, ‘But I didn’t know it!’, that you will NOT be forgiven.”
— Atlas Shrugged (from memory)
Quoting a vicious old ugly cunt will do nothing for this argument. That woman was a terrible writer who could not get laid to save her life, and her philosophies are things that only angry supremely angry, delusional people follow.
Which books have you read? I think she’s a pretty good writer. Atlas shrugged and the fountainhead are better than some of her others that focused just on objectivism. Her later books are still well writen but can be a bit repetitive at times.[/quote]
Irish was an ardent communist a couple of years ago. He’s also an atheist, as Rand actually also was btw. However she had a brain.
Telling people that their individual lives are precious makes her a ‘vicious old ugly cunt’ according to some gutter communist, like Shantyboy.
“Your life belongs to YOU, and the ‘Good’ is to live it.”
— the ‘vicious old ugly cunt’
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…it’s a game you play by their rules, that’s all. If you don’t like it, stop playing the game. Or continue to bitch about it, whatever makes you life worthwhile…
Now you’ve hit upon it. If the system becomes corrupt, even for the alleged purpose of the ‘public good’, then you SHOULD quit feeding the machine. Work at a low enough level so that you produce nothing in excess of your survival needs. Leave nothing for the do-gooder liberals. Go on strike.
Welcome to the Ayn Rand Brigade, ephrem!!
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…no thank you. You’re missing the point though HH; you stop playing the game not because you don’t want to leave anything for these supposed evil liberals, but because you’ve seen the game for what it is. You’re just playing it with an intent that’s linked to the game, and therefore you’re still playing it…