Totally avoid them. Not worth it. On thanksgiving I had turkey and asparagus. Id imagine there may be products out there that claim to help but I’m happy with my diet. Ive wanted to compete since I was a young kid and for the first time in my life I think I might actually be able to do it. I wouldnt sacrifice that for cornbread dressing lol
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Dam son. Dedication. I could never do the whole getting shredded to stage lean. With powerlifting, sure there is some cutting for weight. But not to the extremes I could handle for bodybuolding. Hell, I have to cut a bit now and I hate it. I just don’t have the mental fortitude for that kind of dieting.
I know some people that when they get close to the stage, refeeds just turn into whole day binges because they can’t control it anymore
I have/have had reactive hypoglycaemia, it’s nothing compared to the severity op is describing
Type 2 diabeties is a real possibility here, he needs to check his fasting glucose
Sounds pretty dangerous to me man
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This is reactive hypoglycaemia he is talking about
But I believe OP probably has serious glocuose tolerance issues, a vastly altered response to insulin secretion… perhaps of adequate severity to reach legitimate criteria in relation to the diagnosis of type 2 diabeties
In which case diabetic coma is a possibility, along with many, many, many, many, many other potential complications
Development of type 2 diabetes is a real possibility. If OP has gotten this far and is/has run cycles like this without any bloodwork whatsoever than shame on OP. I’m sure he has and fasting glucose is typically apart of those labs. I know because my fasting glucose was always perfect because I was fasted. If I had eaten sugar a couple hours before we may have caught this sooner. If he was diabetic it wouldnt matter if he was fasted or not his blood glucose would be elevated to pre or full blown diabetes.
No… he hasn’t… no bloods have been taken
1 g tren was his 1st or 2nd cycle with sdrol and trt dose test I believe
This has been more of an “on for as long as possible” scenario rather than a 10 wk cycle etc
If he was diabetic fasting glucose would be elevated, yes… but in response to severe response to carbs, like diabetic coma etc response blood glucose might shoot up to 5-600mg/dl, blood acutely becomes extremely thick, very… very dangerous. Hence why I said he’s playing with death acutely, as that does appear to be the case here
It’d be like someone taking a bunch of oxycodone, a Xanax and then drinking a twelve pack and merely hoping for the best outcome. Would you die at that point? Perhaps… perhaps not… It’d be a very real possibility akin to messing around with blood glucose concentrations of 600+. Some people get lucky and black out for a while/ feel very drunk/sick and throw up copiously, expelling part of the medication from their system, some with a tolerance might actually be able to handle it (this part is irrelevant though as you can’t develop a tolerance to diabeties) and others drop dead
Messing around with severely uncontrolled type 2 diabeties… some will feel weak and lightheaded when eating carbs with rapidly fluctuating blood sugar… some will drop dead and die if they enter a diabetic coma
It’s just a super dangerous situation to be messing with, hence my extreme analogy
Everything your saying is extreme and based on a massive lack of information. I to have a lack of information on his case but I’m just suggesting he seek medical help.
It isn’t lacking base
I know for a fact he’s been on 1000mg + tren weekly for at LEAST a couple months now, probably longer. I know he’s on superdrol and a base dose of test too
We also know he hasn’t gotten bloods as he has talked about what his bloods will show when he gets them, stating they probably won’t be good.
Finally his symptoms sound absolutely like extreme dysregulation in regard to insulin response stemming from glucose intake
His symptoms following carb intake “I felt like I was about to slip into a deep coma” sounds like extreme hyperglycaemia/dangerously elevated blood glucose concentration to me. He has frequently made comments hinting at the possibility of type 2 diabeties “if I don’t have carbs/sweets on me all the time I’ll sometimes feel sluggish, tired… the tren is burning through carbs… not true… it’s iinsulin resistance”
I don’t have proof, this is my opinion… but I can almost guarantee you his blood glucose will be fucked beyond belief if he decides to check it
Messing around with hypo/hyperglycaemia is incredibly dangerous when it’s this out of control… thus I believe my extreme analogy is warranted
All of you concentrated on insulin sensitivity but also there one else mechanism:
Trenbolone → Prolactin → Stimulation of beta-cells and insulin production.
And it so striking effect.
If it was really hypoglycemia, it could be:
- Distinctive feature of diabetes 1 type. When beta-cells destroyed and large amount of insulin is emited from inside them.
- Producing tumour of beta-cells. They produced large amount all time and you lived with high insulin and chronic hypoglycemia. When it long - nervous system adopted to low sugar and it’s hard to feel. By prolactin you stimulated it and increased insulin even more.
- Simple transitory episodic hypoglycema caused by your lifestyle and course.
In any case we need log of your blood sugar(in fasted and after meal) and description of same cases with time-line
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I know this is an ancient thread
However I am almost positive that MANY blood sugar symptoms caused due to Anabolic steroids is related to cortisol.
All my blood sugar symptoms go away essentially if I take hydrocortisone.
My body temperature gets normal, energy way better etc.
If I recall AAS can sometimes suppress cortisol or bind to receptors(tren especially)?
Try cortisone aceticum on Amazon by boiron for a few days (1/2 a tube a day) and see if you feel better
I know it’s best to find the root cause of why the adrenals are not producing enough hormones, but a good way to test is to try hydrocortisone(don’t try ANY other steroids ie. Prednisone, methyl prednisone, etc)
Anabolic steroids suppress cortisol for the most part, low cortisol can make you hypo yes
Anabolic steroids (depending on the drug) dose dependently impair fasting glucose and even if drugs like tren increase nutrient partitioning they generally decrease insulin sensitivity over time
Corticosteroids are also suppressive in their own right and generally need to be tapered to avoid a withdrawal syndrome