I get peoples concern’s about erosion of personal liberties, because I am concerned about them also. The DEGREE of that concern will obviously vary among us. I am not marching on Washington because I think someone is going to take away an estimated 600 million-plus (low estimate) guns and assorted weapons.
You are agreeing, then, with my sentiment…Trump is not a Leader.
Washington was indeed a leader.
What do you mean? He’s orchestrating protests on Twitter basically against himself and his administration.
For a Republican POTUS with a Republican Senate to bring people out onto the streets to protest … checks notes… “Democrat dictatorship”, that takes some leadership
And some HUGE orange Balls…
Not exactly. That’s his only course of action.
The modern GOP has been turned into a reactive populist movement with some elements taken from fascism (just to be clear - GOP isn’t fascist, but has aped some minor elements), namely the siege mentality and the constant feeling of danger from the enemy that is, as thr late Umberto Eco eloquently put it, at the same time too strong and too weak.
So the GOP has the POTUS, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the most watched news network (yet its viewers call other news outlets MSM), massive local news and radio empires, yet they do not know how to operate when they’re in power as they’re a reactive movement channeling economic and societal anxieties.
And more importantly, neither does Trump.
The only way he and the movement the GOP has become can operate is if they’re under attack. From HRC, George Soros, lizard people, globalists, scientists, Hollywood, Pelosi, Deep State and other assorted liberals who are omnipotent and present everywhere, yet each time easily defeated. Notice how the villain regularly changes and no one cares? How many people are upset that HRC hasn’t been locked up?
Trump excels in personal fights but he cannot insult Covid-19 over Twitter and cannot go after China so there’s no one left. Well, except the Democratic governors who are simultaneously failing at their jobs, introducing tyranny and apparently taking away the guns while being responsible for everything bad that happens.
Not grade A material for ratings, but Trump has worked his magic with worse source material.
Of course, the Federal Government would have been a much better villain in a pandemic scenario and the discussion of this forum would reach frenzied proportions instead of a “meh, we’re free people and we don’t care who the POTUS is and what he says”, but obviously this cannot be done.
So they’re doing a filler mid-season episode with a generic forgettable villain, but enough for that daily fix of anger, fear and outrage.
Have to disagree (though I love ya). There’s nothing Trump has done during this that looks audacious or ballsy. To the contrary, Trump looks like a panicked, confused kid looking for a daily excuse why he didn’t get his homework in on time.
EU 515MM population, 100K corona deaths, projected 27% unemployment from cor
US 330MM population, 40k corona deaths, projected mid 20s unemployment
@loppar and @thunderbolt23…maybe “ballsy” was the wrong term.
It takes a lot of “gall/arrogance?” maybe…to orchestrate (inflame?) protest…and making it all about “Democratic Dictatorship”…when he and the GOP actually hold and/or control the White House, Senate, SCOTUS, many Federal Judgeships and large portions of the media?
It’s all crazy.
(@treco…I’m trying to understand the point being made about leadership and the death and unemployment rates in the UK and US). Is it that the differences show greater leadership?)
I’m seeing an “act of God” that is showing equal opportunity destruction across the leading economies/healthcare systems/leaders of the world. You guys are acting like this is somehow all on Trump, while all other leaders are kicking it.
IMHO, we are in total darkness (worldwide) without doing many millions of tests per day to develop some true understanding of exposure, true death rates, etc.
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.
What this situation has done is further reveal Trump’s true colors…and his lack of leadership in crisis; by doing the things that others have indicated.
It fact; I said early on that one can’t blame trump for a Viral Pandemic…but I sure as hell can blame him for making things worse by inflaming fears; and blaming everything negative on others, while pounding his chest and proclaiming “Look what I’ve done!”.
No need to blame him for the virus. He is not responsible. Plenty of blame is his to own on the response. I think he is a pretty good example of what not to do as a leader. Changing stances, guessing on cures, blaming others, inciting riots, fueling disbelieve in science…
You, loppar, hfactor, tbolt among several others post across these several rona threads state repeatedly how Trump (single handedly) has caused the US to fail miserably in this pandemic fight.
The numbers don’t support you.
The man is a lying, flip flopping, buffoonish megalomaniac… got it after millions of words posted for 5 years.
But the numbers don’t support he is doing any lesser of a job fighting this WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC ACT OF GOD than any other leader.
He is…and this doesn’t have a damn thing to do with numbers.
Let me say it again:Trump did not cause a Viral Pandemic. I don’t know how much clearer I can be. But he sure has not helped us get through it feeling somewhat united in purpose. In fact, he continues to divide us.That’s what he does.
Leadership to me in this pandemic would be tests administered to 100% of America as quickly as possible. Total stoppage of virtually every aspect of society, so this could be done in a matter of a few days.
Then we could see what the health reality is, rather that wwalking in a cave with a hood over our heads.
Those damn Democratic Governors! Why aren’t they getting this DONE?
Care to share the post of mine where I said this? Hell care to share where the others said this? I believe Trump failed in his initial reaction and handling. I also think he’s been wildly inconsistent on what he proposes and of course he attacks everyone that even slightly suggests he do something different.
I don’t think I’ve ever said he’s single handedly to blame nor have I said he hasn’t gotten some things right. I think you’re lumping people who aren’t afraid to criticize the President on here and building arguments they have never made. Maybe I missed them.
Did you need words on here to come to the conclusion? Seems like one could not visit PWI and just follow Trump and see that pretty quickly.
This is my point. Im not going to spend hours researching every tiny quote that shows the anti trumpers stated something exactly or didnt put the comma in the right space.
You guys blame trump because you despise him. The numbers don’t support his massive failure.
Screw it. If you think he failed as opposed to the other major societies’ leaders, and while Congress sat at home posting ice cream vids - yes it was him.
Biden/ M.Obama 2020!
So you made this claim.
Then they said bull shit we didn’t say that, you are presenting a strawman argument.
Then you say.
Here you are admitting that you don’t understand the position of those you mentioned.
If you don’t understand the position of another the appropriate thing to do is to ask, not make up a strawman.
How do you know that? We can only observe what happened. We don’t know what would have happened if we would have had someone else in office.
You’re not going to research something that you said was true when asked? So when I say I think your claim is false you just say I’m not going to research to see if it’s false?
Blame him for what? I think he has mishandled aspects of his response. Is that because I despise him? Like I said I’ve given him credit for certain things in his response. Are we not allowed to criticize the President on here? Is that against the terms of use or something?
I think a lot of people have failed in certain aspects and not in others. Trump included. A lot of things are out of his control with this just like other leaders. But he can control a lot of things as well. He can control the consistency of his message. His ability to work with others in government. His ability to take the higher road if someone dares speak an ill word. And many other things.
Make sure it’s an over-the-hill porn-star, especially while you’re married, @treco.
MAGA
4 more years.