What is Leadership?

I’ve brought up Cornpop to show how badass Joe Biden is: there’s no other explanation for a lone white guy going out to a parking lot to confront three razor-wielding, black gangsters by himself in the 60s.
I’m not sure how many of Trump’s stories I’ve brought up. I can’t think of any off the top of my head. I can’t even think of any Trump stories at all. Stormy Daniels?

The story is not from over 50 years ago. He told it less than three years ago.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/15/joe_biden_recalls_terrifying_1960s_public_pool_confrontation_with_razor-weilding_gangster_named_corn_pop.html

-The second link is the full speech.

I was JUST sent this. Came from my Republican aunt, so really no political commentary, just found it hilarious (and probably accurate).

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The event was over 50 years ago. And I linked details in the article I’m sure you read. I have no idea what details are wrong or right. I would say it sounds like a combination.

Perhaps story is a poor choice? Trump has no shortage of whatever we want to call them. Speeches with inaccuracies? Fictionalized events? Gross exaggerations? Disregard for facts while talking or typing? Inability to speak coherently? Inability to maintain a consistent speech pattern?

Sounds like a person by that name existed, and that Biden was a lifeguard.

I like this, from a former Wilmington Mayor, “They trusted him because he played ball with them, but they told me I didn’t belong,” Baker said. “I don’t know if they even knew he was a lawyer.” A 19-year-old lawyer.

Cool. We will all look forward to future forward posts where you say “I’m not gonna criticize Trump, but don’t forget corn pop. In my America we wouldn’t even have a speed limit!”

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That’s entirely the point - you don’t bring them up, despite them staring you in the face on a daily basis. Trump has a Corn-Pop level or worse story nearly every day he decides to communicate publicly. You just happen to miss them.

Maybe a bad internet connection?

Could be. Post one for me.

Does google not work for you? Try checking speeches and his Twitter. Or are you really just wanting someone to mention one so you can deflect/deny whatever it is that the typical Trump people want to do at the moment?

You found stuff on corn pop, but you need help on Trump? You’re acting like Pat.

I have no idea when or where I found out about it. It stands out in my mind as the most-cringeworthy story I’ve ever heard. I have not heard anything like that from Trump, but I’d love to.

Edit: Here’s a right-winger talking about Biden’s story:

Sorry, I don’t cast pearls before swine these days. Wander upstairs and ask your mom.

Within the span of a few days, Trump declares he has all the power to boss governors around on policy, then backtracks, then outlines his federal criteria states need to meet before reopening, then encourages people to protest the states for staying on lockdown that don’t yet meet the criteria he laid out to re-open.

He can’t remember day to day what he said or wants to do. And assuming he actually can remember - well, that’s even worse: if it’s not faulty memory, it’s intended dishonesty.

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It may be. I don’t know how given your stance on the government you didn’t cringe at the numerous ways Mexico would pay for the wall, the idea that the debt would be paid in 8 years with no cuts to social security and Medicare, that we couldn’t default anyways, and a myriad of other things. Like his absolutely insane diatribes on wind, nuclear power, and the approximately 246 different topics that he has said “no one knows more about this” than me. But maybe that stuff doesn’t make you cringe like the telling of what may or may not have happened 50 some odd years ago.

He’s also a former SEAL, who hasn’t repeatedly shit on dead veterans. I’ve had my eye on Crenshaw for a while. I may be left-leaning usually, but I fall center of the aisle on a lot of things, and Crenshaw is 100% somebody who could pull me across.

I mean, seriously - Trump insulted McCain post mortem, and then also insinuated that a dead WORLD WAR 2 VETERAN was in HELL. And a LOT of veterans love him. It’s mind boggling, the cognitive dissonance that it takes to support him in certain positions.

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I don’t expect much in the way of economic sense from anyone(with any chance to win) running for office. Policy-stupidity is far-less cringeworthy than talking about something that supposedly involved you 60 years ago but seems completely made-up.

To each their own. You find a possibly misleading or false really old incident hilarious, but consider actual current known outlandish things just policy stupidity? I guess I don’t view it that way . Repeating multiple times that Mexico will pay for the wall is pretty fucking funny. Actually a lot of what he says with zero plan is really funny. Maybe you need to take a second look at his humor. If you’re just saying it’s just weird policy talk you’re missing out.

If the following isn’t funny you’re just broken!

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”

“I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody,”

I know it is very expensive. They are made in mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous – if you are into this – tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?”

Trump has a long history of shitting on veterans.

Yup, and like I had said, it doesn’t include WW2 vet John Dingell. But somebody will read that article, pick out where he said something about Blumenthal, who’s an idiot, and use that to be like “see, Trump’s right!”.

It truly is…

You should check Crenshaw’s appearance on JRE, especially discussion about healthcare.

I just hopped on to pwi and saw this thread and thought it looked interesting.

Mufasa, I love you man but this sentence makes be think you do not “get it” when you’re so fucking dismissive… Keep trying to get it and one day you will.

Also, a leader depends on who you talk to. I’ve never likened to President to a leader, per se. Our first President was a leader. I don’t think we’ve had a leader in office since Eisenhower … and before him, T. Roosevelt.