What is Kerry doing to himself?

Alright, I understand the vote for the war and then voting against the funding. He said that he didn’t agree with the no bid contracts. I see his point about bidding out to other companies. Today I read this:

Kerry declared that the president had sent U.S. troops to the “wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time.”

A month or so ago I read that he said even though we didn’t find WMD’s he would still have voted for the war.

I would really like to know what his position is…

Any insight from the people voting for him. I already know what the people voting for Bush will say.

Chrisrock,

I think you almost have to feel sorry for the poor guy. He’s slipped in the polls and so he’s doing what either he thinks he needs to do, or what he has been told by the clinton…gang he needs to do to win-which is to attack Bush.

The funniest thing in my opinion is his breaking out the criticism of George Bush based on “W” – you’d think a guy named John F. Kerry, who’d been criticized for “flip-flopping”, would avoid the middle-initial thing…

As I explained on another thread: John Kerry is caught between a rock and a hard place. If he looks like he was always for the war his liberal base will not be enthused and may stay home on election day. If he looks like he was always against the war he pulls away from the center and then loses the election anyway.

If things start to improve the slightest in Iraq, as they are currently, he really looks like someone who missed the boat.

The guy can’t win!

I’m the last one to believe in conspiracy theories, but I’m awfully suspicious of the Clinton’s intention of helping John Kerry. There’s been much said about Hillary’s intention to run for president in 2008, which I believe because she’s a power-hungry bitch. Aside from this speculation, the cues John Kerry has taken ever since Clinton’s big guns came on board the campaign have been downright awful.

Midnight speeches, deferment attacks (which he applied for but was denied), and stupid catch phrases using the middle initial of George Bush are not what I call “big gun” tactics. Clinton himself would never look this bad.

When I heard John Kerry say, “‘W’ is for wrong war”, I felt like he was trying to take us back to Sesame Street. I can’t believe the Dems put up with such condescending drivel. This is why I have to be a little suspicious of the Clinton aides.

While the Bush team has now gone after his indecisiveness and Senate record, Kerry is still fighting the battles waged before the RNC.

[quote]scrumscab wrote:
I’m the last one to believe in conspiracy theories, but I’m awfully suspicious of the Clinton’s intention of helping John Kerry. There’s been much said about Hillary’s intention to run for president in 2008, which I believe because she’s a power-hungry bitch. Aside from this speculation, the cues John Kerry has taken ever since Clinton’s big guns came on board the campaign have been downright awful.

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I thought the exact same thing when I heard about Clinton’s 90 minute ‘strategy session’ with Kerry this past weekend.

It looks like a Clinton snow job to me.

I think the way Kerry is acting is pathetic, they should’ve went with Dean. He would be much sharper and stick it to Bush on every issue. That’s the problem with Democrats, they listen to the people too much instead of having the people listen to them.

I agree with scrumscab and rainjack. There is no way that the Clintons want Kerry to win this thing. They will do everything that they can within their power to stop it. Of course, they cannot be obvious about it.

Note of warning: Bill Kristol is pointing this out, and JusttheFacts has exposed him as part of a conspiracy to rule the world, so maybe he has managed to get Kerry involved in the conspiracy – he’s obviously trying to get Bush re-elected…

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/587jxocg.asp

Kerry vs. Kerry
What does “the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time” mean?
by William Kristol
09/07/2004 12:20:00 PM

JOHN KERRY said yesterday that Iraq was “the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time.” Translation: We would be better off if Saddam Hussein were still in power.

Not an unheard of point of view. Indeed, as President Bush pointed out today, it was Howard Dean’s position during the primary season. On December 15, 2003, in a speech at the Pacific Council on International Policy in Los Angeles, Dean said that “the capture of Saddam Hussein has not made America safer.” Dean also said, “The difficulties and tragedies we have faced in Iraq show the administration launched the war in the wrong way, at the wrong time, with inadequate planning, insufficient help, and at the extraordinary cost, so far, of $166 billion.”

But who challenged Dean immediately? John Kerry. On December 16, at Drake University in Iowa, Kerry asserted that “those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture, don’t have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president.”

Kerry was right then.

William Kristol is editor of The Weekly Standard.

Wall Street Journal Editorial
Kerry vs. Kerry
September 10, 2004; Page A12

John Kerry could well be our next President, which is why we keep looking for signs that he’d be a good one, especially on national defense. Even a hint of Harry Truman would make us sleep better. But the more he talks about Iraq, the more the Senator seems bent on proving that his critics are right: He really is in a Presidential debate with himself.

First, back in October 2002 when the polls showed large public support, Mr. Kerry voted for the war. “I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein,” he said in one of the early Democratic debates. “And when the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him.”

But then Howard Dean rose in the polls as the antiwar candidate, and Mr. Kerry suddenly turned against the war too. “Are you one of the anti-war candidates?” asked Chris Matthews back in January on MSNBC’s “Hardball.” Mr. Kerry: “I am – Yes…”

Or at least he was until he routed Mr. Dean, when he became prowar once again. Throughout the spring he vowed to stay the course, saying in April that “it would be unwise beyond belief for the United States of America to leave a failed Iraq in its wake.” His positions were so close to Mr. Bush’s that pundits were suggesting Iraq wouldn’t be an issue in the fall. Only last month, Mr. Kerry declared that even knowing everything he knows now about events in Iraq, “yes, I would have voted for the authority” of President Bush to wage war.

But now, suddenly and in the campaign’s home stretch, Mr. Kerry has again turned antiwar – and with a passion that would make Mr. Dean proud. His latest line is that Iraq is “the wrong war, in the wrong place, at the wrong time,” and that he would have done “everything differently” from Mr. Bush. Presumably by “everything” he means voting against the war that only three weeks ago he repeated he would have again voted for.

Mr. Kerry is even reviving the old liberal isolationist line that money spent fighting our enemies in Iraq should be better spent at home. “$200 billion for Iraq, but they tell us we can’t afford after-school programs for our children,” the Democrat said in Cincinnati on Wednesday. “$200 billion for Iraq, but they tell us we can’t afford to keep the 100,000 police officers we put on the streets in the 1990s.” And like George McGovern promised about Vietnam in 1972, he’s clearly signaling that he’ll bring Americans home from Iraq, as early as his first six months in office.

It’s anyone’s guess why Mr. Kerry has taken this latest flip. Perhaps now that he’s trailing in the polls, and his image on national security has suffered, he feels he can only win as the antiwar candidate. Perhaps he’s trying to win back those of his core liberal supporters who’ve drifted to Ralph Nader in the wake of Mr. Kerry’s spring-summer hawkishness. Or perhaps he’s hoping that nasty events in Iraq in the next 50 days will somehow sour enough Americans on Mr. Bush to sneak him into office.

Perhaps, but we doubt it. Americans aren’t looking for perfect consistency in a candidate. But in the wake of 9/11 in particular, they do want some proof of conviction and constancy, especially on national security. Agree with him or not, President Bush has told Americans pretty clearly where he stands – on Iraq, and on the war on terror, which he argues are part of the same fight. Mr. Kerry argues – what, exactly?

We’re not the only ones who’ve noticed that Mr. Kerry’s statements on Iraq aren’t so much “nuanced” as simply irreconcilable. Just yesterday the New York Times implored him to stake out a clear position on the war. And the liberal and anti-Bush New Republic magazine recently observed that on Iraq Mr. Kerry has gone from “inscrutable” to “indefensible.”

The great lost Democratic opportunity here is that Mr. Bush’s Iraq policy is open to criticism: his under-estimation of the postwar insurgency, preventing the Army and Marines from dealing decisive blows to Moqtada al-Sadr in Najaf and the Baathists in Fallujah, failing to train enough Iraqi allies quickly enough, and prolonging the U.S. occupation. But all of these criticisms come from the prowar right, for not fighting in Iraq with the force and tenacity to win.

Other Democrats – Joe Lieberman, Dick Gephardt – could have made that critique with some credibility, but Mr. Kerry seems incapable of it. Now even if Iraq blows up in October, as it well might, Mr. Kerry will find it just about impossible to convince voters that he would prosecute the war with any more vigor than Mr. Bush.

Back in February, we warned Mr. Kerry as he followed Mr. Dean into the antiwar fever swamps that voters would likely be looking for “some sort of consistency on matters of war and peace.” Everything he has done and said since only reinforces his image as a sailor who tacks with the political winds.

I think that by now it’s fairly well established that Kerry is antiwar. Any hawkish talk on his part is to try and woo the swing voters by trying to sound like he would be decisive as president which I have a hard time believing. I think Kerry would follow Clinton’s lead and not do anything that might be controversial and just pass the buck to his successor.

People complain about a lack of planning for the aftermath of invading Iraq and want to blame Bush, which I think is unfair for the following reason. The pentagon had 8 years of the Clinton presidency to work out the details of invading Iraq. Obviously that never happened.

I think Kerry is trying to be all things to all people which you can’t do in a time of war. You have to take a stand and not add in qualifiers at the end of your sentences like Kerry does.

I’d hate to drop in and ruin this thread by simply being here as a voice from “the other side,” but who cares…

I agree, however, that Kerry has hurt himself by apparently contradictory remarks, especially regarding the war.

When asked for his current position on the war, he should have said something like “I voted for it because our President’s administration convinced us all it was necessary. I voted for it because our leader told us we were in great danger. Knowing what I know now, I would not have voted for the war. Though we were successful in removing a brutal dictator, I don’t believe it was worth the lives of 1000 US soldiers, and I think our money should have been spent more wisely and effectively in fighting the war on terror. I, like the rest of America, was fooled by our President.”

That’s what liberals want to hear…we want to hear some freaking backbone and a strong stance.

Heh.

Kerry is a Republican operative

I have taken a little time off from blogging the last couple of days to attend to more important matters, but now hope to compensate with major news. Following up on my disclosure that Michael Moore is a Republican operative, I can now report this even more startling news: The man cka “John Kerry” is actually a Republican operative installed by Karl Rove and the invincible Bush political machine. I understand that Dan Rather’s crack CBS news operation is checking into this story as I write.

Political observers have long wondered how it is that Bush, a widely hated president whose judgment on Iraq and handling of the economy has been questioned by many, nevertheless manages to have dominated this campaign, and to have escaped a serious debate of the issues.

The answer begins last winter when Democrats chose a nominee. Kerry, a man with long-known presidential ambitions, an undistinguished senator with a long and confused voting record, particularly including a recent flip-flop on Iraq, was not an obvious choice. By a stroke of sheer luck, Kerry managed to secure the nomination.

But Rove’s machine was unwilling to trust to continued luck. How could it know for sure that Kerry wouldn’t somehow run an effective campaign? So beginning around the time that Kerry had locked up the nomination, the real John Kerry was abducted and replaced by a double. Although it is hard to tell exactly when that occurred (since the real John Kerry was himself so ineffective), the switch clearly had been accomplished by the time of the convention.

At the convention the real fun began. “John Kerry” unaccountably insisted on making the Vietnam war an issue in this campaign, taking the focus off of Bush’s potential weakness on the economy and Iraq. Kerry’s reasoning: I have a better Vietnam record than he does. As weak as this strategy sounds, it must be remembered that top campaign aides did succeed in talking “John Kerry” out of making his windsurfing prowess an issue in the campaign.

Of course, “Kerry’s” followers would continue to insist that the war was a referendum on Iraq. “Kerry,” Rove’s hand-picked man, could not allow this to happen. And so he made it clear that he would have prosecuted the war even knowing what we know today. So much for any possible strategy based on prevarication about WMD.

The clever moves from this point are numerous and obvious in retrospect. There was, for example, Kerry’s midnight ramble in Ohio, designed to highlight the strengths of Bush’s acceptance speech and therefore “Kerry’s” own weakness.

Of course we know that every time the campaign appears ready to veer toward issues on which Bush and the Republicans are vulnerable, the “Kerry” campaign wrenches it back on (I mean off) course. And so, in mid-September, we find ourselves debating the minutiae of typeface on a document Rove’s operatives were able to feed to their most trusted confederate, “Dan Rather” (that’s another story).

And so I was prescient when I observed a few days ago that this election only has one candidate.

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When asked for his current position on the war, he should have said something like “I voted for it because our President’s administration convinced us all it was necessary. I voted for it because our leader told us we were in great danger. Knowing what I know now, I would not have voted for the war. Though we were successful in removing a brutal dictator, I don’t believe it was worth the lives of 1000 US soldiers, and I think our money should have been spent more wisely and effectively in fighting the war on terror. I, like the rest of America, was fooled by our President.”

That’s what liberals want to hear…we want to hear some freaking backbone and a strong stance.[/quote]

Kerry would definitely be in a better position if he stuck with these stances.

Did you want Kerry to win in the primaries? Or did you convert when Dean reached his end?

[quote]scrumscab wrote:
Did you want Kerry to win in the primaries? Or did you convert when Dean reached his end?[/quote]

I preferred Dean – I liked his attitude and was disappointed when (I think) the media did him in.

Kerry, however, doesn’t totally disappoint. I respect him regarding his personal and carreer achievements, and I obviously agree with more of what he has to say regarding issues than I do the incumbant.

[quote]Right Side Up wrote:
scrumscab wrote:
Did you want Kerry to win in the primaries? Or did you convert when Dean reached his end?

I preferred Dean – I liked his attitude and was disappointed when (I think) the media did him in.

Kerry, however, doesn’t totally disappoint. I respect him regarding his personal and carreer achievements, and I obviously agree with more of what he has to say regarding issues than I do the incumbant. [/quote]

ABB huh, RSU? And we’re mindless drones?

Well, if I have liberal tendencies, reason would lead one to believe that I’d shy away from this cocky, unworthy, lying, church-state blending, war hungry, conservative politician, who - I believe - is a drone himself!