What Exactly Is Going on Here?

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
Lol are you actually reading this shit? 1 month of test and gained 10 pounds cause I changed diet…in 6 months do you really think it will still be an issue now that my diets proper in protein and calorie surplus? why would I not want to gain weight? I didn’t say oo I look like a sexy beast…I literally posted befores because the next ones I want to look completely different. lol who the fuck does situps there’s literally dozens of ab exercises 100x better. yogi god damn bear, I’m the little bear and I’m sensing some overly cocky arrogant comments…which happens to turn me on. so congrats on that troll. :slight_smile: stop posting so maybe I’ll go away ;)[/quote]

This may be the funniest shit I’ve ever read on this site.[/quote]

Hahahaha!

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oh god not that guy!

And he keeps coming back!

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I still don’t believe he was even on gear.

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[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

This is what an idiot on 1g of gear looks like. [/quote]

I think this dude is tainted in your memory forever man. What gets me is that douche look on his face. Like yeah 1g of gear made me look like this. Like it’s just something cool to do. [/quote]

I actually liked that kid lol.

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^ [quote] I consider these guys the most dangerous. They don’t even have a fucking clue how much or the actual purity of the gear the pros are using, nor do they account for variations in individual response to gear, and they spread bullshit. Idiots like your good friend Boo Boo will listen to this shit, think it’s all drugs and may eventually end up taking more than the Pros to maintain a 175lb physique.

“Ooh I’m not gaining… can’t break past 165lbs… gotta up the dose bro…” [/quote]

No you don’t!

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[quote]Steez wrote:
^ [quote] I consider these guys the most dangerous. They don’t even have a fucking clue how much or the actual purity of the gear the pros are using, nor do they account for variations in individual response to gear, and they spread bullshit. Idiots like your good friend Boo Boo will listen to this shit, think it’s all drugs and may eventually end up taking more than the Pros to maintain a 175lb physique.

“Ooh I’m not gaining… can’t break past 165lbs… gotta up the dose bro…” [/quote]

No you don’t![/quote]

haha! dt79 you god damn dirty liar

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[quote]Steez wrote:
^ [quote] I consider these guys the most dangerous. They don’t even have a fucking clue how much or the actual purity of the gear the pros are using, nor do they account for variations in individual response to gear, and they spread bullshit. Idiots like your good friend Boo Boo will listen to this shit, think it’s all drugs and may eventually end up taking more than the Pros to maintain a 175lb physique.

“Ooh I’m not gaining… can’t break past 165lbs… gotta up the dose bro…” [/quote]

No you don’t![/quote]

Hey, he’s a victim. And he was funny…

He wanted to fake low test levels and get on TRT because:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
lol well morally I don’t care that a billion dollar pharmaceutical company is selling me there product, it’s my body and 90% of the crap at a GNC store is just like a drugstore trying to immitate testosterone which happens to be illegal, calling products testboost when its just vitamin c iron ginseng, lots of which no better then placebo effects, so scamming the real scammers is nothing in my mind :stuck_out_tongue: I just didnt know how Test therapy worked, so ya I draw the line there lol. viva la steroids, viva la muscle, viva la I wanna be a real boy cause I lost my dong due to a hooker accident so I cover it up by doing steroids. NOW YOU KNOW WHY I MUST DO THIS. lol jkin.[/quote]

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But seriously, whenever people try to speculate how many grams others are using and claim it’s all about drugs, they should remember there are idiots like Boo Boo who will actually believe it.

At the rate he’s going, without any idea about how to train and eat properly, he’ll be up to several grams soon.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:
But seriously, whenever people try to speculate how many grams others are using and claim it’s all about drugs, they should remember there are idiots like Boo Boo who will actually believe it.

At the rate he’s going, without any idea about how to train and eat properly, he’ll be up to several grams soon.[/quote]

Isn’t he already at like 2 grams? I thought that’s what I remembered… I’m not re opening the thread to double check.

But yes, not only will he be up to 3+ grams, but he’ll look almost exactly the same, and he’ll be asking how to break through that 180 lbs barrier.

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
But seriously, whenever people try to speculate how many grams others are using and claim it’s all about drugs, they should remember there are idiots like Boo Boo who will actually believe it.

At the rate he’s going, without any idea about how to train and eat properly, he’ll be up to several grams soon.[/quote]

Isn’t he already at like 2 grams? I thought that’s what I remembered… I’m not re opening the thread to double check.

But yes, not only will he be up to 3+ grams, but he’ll look almost exactly the same, and he’ll be asking how to break through that 180 lbs barrier.[/quote]

He did around 1g for 12 weeks, which included tren ace at 350mg-420mg per week, cruised at 200mg of test for 2 weeks and planned to start another 12 week cycle before PCT lol!

If he did start the 2nd “blast”, he would be using 1.5g of gear @152lbs bodyweight.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
But seriously, whenever people try to speculate how many grams others are using and claim it’s all about drugs, they should remember there are idiots like Boo Boo who will actually believe it.

At the rate he’s going, without any idea about how to train and eat properly, he’ll be up to several grams soon.[/quote]

Isn’t he already at like 2 grams? I thought that’s what I remembered… I’m not re opening the thread to double check.

But yes, not only will he be up to 3+ grams, but he’ll look almost exactly the same, and he’ll be asking how to break through that 180 lbs barrier.[/quote]

He did around 1g for 12 weeks, which included tren ace at 350mg-420mg per week, cruised at 200mg of test for 2 weeks and planned to start another 12 week cycle before PCT lol!

If he did start the 2nd “blast”, he would be using 1.5g of gear @152lbs bodyweight.[/quote]

For us dummies out here, are steroid doses weight dependent? Is 1 gram at 150 pounds equivalent to 2 grams at 300 pounds?

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
But seriously, whenever people try to speculate how many grams others are using and claim it’s all about drugs, they should remember there are idiots like Boo Boo who will actually believe it.

At the rate he’s going, without any idea about how to train and eat properly, he’ll be up to several grams soon.[/quote]

Isn’t he already at like 2 grams? I thought that’s what I remembered… I’m not re opening the thread to double check.

But yes, not only will he be up to 3+ grams, but he’ll look almost exactly the same, and he’ll be asking how to break through that 180 lbs barrier.[/quote]

He did around 1g for 12 weeks, which included tren ace at 350mg-420mg per week, cruised at 200mg of test for 2 weeks and planned to start another 12 week cycle before PCT lol!

If he did start the 2nd “blast”, he would be using 1.5g of gear @152lbs bodyweight.[/quote]

For us dummies out here, are steroid doses weight dependent? Is 1 gram at 150 pounds equivalent to 2 grams at 300 pounds?[/quote]

I’ve never heard of steroids being weight dependent. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense for them to be. Our natural testosterone production isn’t weight dependent.

I will give something of a reference point here though, regarding the 160 lbs kid we’re talking about. 1.5 grams of steroids, over the course of several cycles, has the potential to get a guy to a very high level of bodybuilding, possibly even borderline pro if his genetics are awesome. It’s a substantial dose, especially when a large portion of it is trenbolone.

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
But seriously, whenever people try to speculate how many grams others are using and claim it’s all about drugs, they should remember there are idiots like Boo Boo who will actually believe it.

At the rate he’s going, without any idea about how to train and eat properly, he’ll be up to several grams soon.[/quote]

Isn’t he already at like 2 grams? I thought that’s what I remembered… I’m not re opening the thread to double check.

But yes, not only will he be up to 3+ grams, but he’ll look almost exactly the same, and he’ll be asking how to break through that 180 lbs barrier.[/quote]

He did around 1g for 12 weeks, which included tren ace at 350mg-420mg per week, cruised at 200mg of test for 2 weeks and planned to start another 12 week cycle before PCT lol!

If he did start the 2nd “blast”, he would be using 1.5g of gear @152lbs bodyweight.[/quote]

For us dummies out here, are steroid doses weight dependent? Is 1 gram at 150 pounds equivalent to 2 grams at 300 pounds?[/quote]

I’ve never heard of steroids being weight dependent. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense for them to be. Our natural testosterone production isn’t weight dependent.

I will give something of a reference point here though, regarding the 160 lbs kid we’re talking about. 1.5 grams of steroids, over the course of several cycles, has the potential to get a guy to a very high level of bodybuilding, possibly even borderline pro if his genetics are awesome. It’s a substantial dose, especially when a large portion of it is trenbolone.[/quote]

In addition, the presence of myostatin is what inhibits muscle growth(It is also why we have a natural genetic limit). This is why anabolics are needed when one is past this limit, with a minimum dosage needed to maintain muscle mass(eg, 250mg/week). However, myostatin levels also increase along with the increase in anabolics over a certain period of time during a blast(eg, 2g/week), in which the dose has to be reduced to maintainence level for myostatin levels to fall before blasting again, or increased to offset the increase in myostatin.

This is one of the reasons why people cycle/blast and cruise or they would have to perpetually increase dosages to continue growing.

In short, doses needed are weight dependant after achieving a certain size not because of decreasing response to gear, but the inhibition of further growth due to myostatin. Response to gear is user dependant.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
But seriously, whenever people try to speculate how many grams others are using and claim it’s all about drugs, they should remember there are idiots like Boo Boo who will actually believe it.

At the rate he’s going, without any idea about how to train and eat properly, he’ll be up to several grams soon.[/quote]

Isn’t he already at like 2 grams? I thought that’s what I remembered… I’m not re opening the thread to double check.

But yes, not only will he be up to 3+ grams, but he’ll look almost exactly the same, and he’ll be asking how to break through that 180 lbs barrier.[/quote]

He did around 1g for 12 weeks, which included tren ace at 350mg-420mg per week, cruised at 200mg of test for 2 weeks and planned to start another 12 week cycle before PCT lol!

If he did start the 2nd “blast”, he would be using 1.5g of gear @152lbs bodyweight.[/quote]

For us dummies out here, are steroid doses weight dependent? Is 1 gram at 150 pounds equivalent to 2 grams at 300 pounds?[/quote]

I’ve never heard of steroids being weight dependent. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense for them to be. Our natural testosterone production isn’t weight dependent.

I will give something of a reference point here though, regarding the 160 lbs kid we’re talking about. 1.5 grams of steroids, over the course of several cycles, has the potential to get a guy to a very high level of bodybuilding, possibly even borderline pro if his genetics are awesome. It’s a substantial dose, especially when a large portion of it is trenbolone.[/quote]

In addition, the presence of myostatin is what inhibits muscle growth(It is also why we have a natural genetic limit). This is why anabolics are needed when one is past this limit, with a minimum dosage needed to maintain muscle mass(eg, 250mg/week). However, myostatin levels also increase along with the increase in anabolics over a certain period of time during a blast(eg, 2g/week), in which the dose has to be reduced to maintainence level for myostatin levels to fall before blasting again, or increased to offset the increase in myostatin.

This is one of the reasons why people cycle/blast and cruise or they would have to perpetually increase dosages to continue growing.

In short, doses needed are weight dependant after achieving a certain size not because of decreasing response to gear, but the inhibition of further growth due to myostatin. Response to gear is user dependant.[/quote]

That’s good to know! Nicely done.