What Do YOU Tell Them?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
…which is why I think smaller guys are the only ones who turn this into a real issue.
[/quote]

I have no way to prove to someone that what I’m doing is working. I’m a beginner and although I’m past the poor diet/plan/whatever phase, I still need more calories and hours under the bar. That’s why it may be a bigger issue for us, small people.

Some people at the office ask me for tips genuinely, some other, for whatever reason, just go defensive about the entire thing. I have promised myself to not snap back at anyone (I have my reasons), but as I said, I have no way to prove that I’m really working out, that eating as much as I do is useful, etc.
The only thing I can do it suck it up and keep training and eating.

I train for myself and I really enjoy both the gym and the kitchen, but the social aspect is important as well.

So, Nards, that’s my piece of “I’m so hardcore”. Now, May the Forc–nevermind, Trekkie scum…

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
…which is why I think smaller guys are the only ones who turn this into a real issue.
[/quote]

I have no way to prove to someone that what I’m doing is working. I’m a beginner and although I’m past the poor diet/plan/whatever phase, I still need more calories and hours under the bar. That’s why it may be a bigger issue for us, small people.

Some people at the office ask me for tips genuinely, some other, for whatever reason, just go defensive about the entire thing. I have promised myself to not snap back at anyone (I have my reasons), but as I said, I have no way to prove that I’m really working out, that eating as much as I do is useful, etc.
The only thing I can do it suck it up and keep training and eating.

I train for myself and I really enjoy both the gym and the kitchen, but the social aspect is important as well.

So, Nards, that’s my piece of “I’m so hardcore”. Now, May the Forc–nevermind, Trekkie scum…
[/quote]

Just to be real with you, unless you actually look really developed, chances are, some of those people are fucking with you.

Most people aren’t running up to newbs for training advice. They may be noticing you making progress and may be trying to simply start a conversation or give a small compliment.

People don’t really act like that with little dudes. They may make comments simply because Toby Mcgwire is “built” to some people…but unless you’re huge, if you make it more than that, you are likely just being an ass.

One thing you have to realize is that if you do look average, sedentary people will take your “separatist” action as far as how you eat and even train as an insult to their lack of motivation. The reason is, you still look a little like them.

So, bringing up how you eat and train, unless specifically asked for this info directly, will lead to people treating you funny.

I try to avoid talking about this shit at work. They come to me but there is no way in hell I will even bring it up on my own.

Why would you even need to get defensive about this?

That doesn’t make sense.

Star Trek and Star Wars can get along…just look at the 2009 Star Trek movie!

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
…which is why I think smaller guys are the only ones who turn this into a real issue.
[/quote]

I have no way to prove to someone that what I’m doing is working. I’m a beginner and although I’m past the poor diet/plan/whatever phase, I still need more calories and hours under the bar. That’s why it may be a bigger issue for us, small people.

Some people at the office ask me for tips genuinely, some other, for whatever reason, just go defensive about the entire thing. I have promised myself to not snap back at anyone (I have my reasons), but as I said, I have no way to prove that I’m really working out, that eating as much as I do is useful, etc.
The only thing I can do it suck it up and keep training and eating.

I train for myself and I really enjoy both the gym and the kitchen, but the social aspect is important as well.

So, Nards, that’s my piece of “I’m so hardcore”. Now, May the Forc–nevermind, Trekkie scum…
[/quote]

Just to be real with you, unless you actually look really developed, chances are, some of those people are fucking with you.

Most people aren’t running up to newbs for training advice. They may be noticing you making progress and may be trying to simply start a conversation or give a small compliment.

People don’t really act like that with little dudes. They may make comments simply because Toby Mcgwire is “built” to some people…but unless you’re huge, if you make it more than that, you are likely just being an ass.

One thing you have to realize is that if you do look average, sedentary people will take your “separatist” action as far as how you eat and even train as an insult to their lack of motivation. The reason is, you still look a little like them.

So, bringing up how you eat and train, unless specifically asked for this info directly, will lead to people treating you funny.

I try to avoid talking about this shit at work. They come to me but there is no way in hell I will even bring it up on my own.

Why would you even need to get defensive about this?

That doesn’t make sense.
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I look quite average, but I know that some are really asking how they can improve their diet or workout plan, although sometimes I really can’t help (“How should I train to perform better as basketball player?”).

But you are totally on spot with the “separatist” comment. “Waking up at 5.30? ARE YOU CRAZY?” “What’s the point of going to sleep at 21.30 like a little kid?” “I don’t need to control my diet, I’m fine like this” “I’m happy with how I look, I don’t have any insecurities to fix about it” “With your restrictive diet and your weight lifting, you’re missing the pleasures of life” (Strict diet = No junk and the ‘worst’ food I eat is minced meat or sausages once a week).

I never bring up training or dieting unless asked already and I know already who’s fishing for a fight and who actually wants some help. Sadly the worst offender of the former is my direct boss and his “So, are you strong and big already?” sarcastic smile

Nards, I haven’t seen it, but I guess both sides agree that it sucks?

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
…which is why I think smaller guys are the only ones who turn this into a real issue.
[/quote]

I have no way to prove to someone that what I’m doing is working. I’m a beginner and although I’m past the poor diet/plan/whatever phase, I still need more calories and hours under the bar. That’s why it may be a bigger issue for us, small people.

Some people at the office ask me for tips genuinely, some other, for whatever reason, just go defensive about the entire thing. I have promised myself to not snap back at anyone (I have my reasons), but as I said, I have no way to prove that I’m really working out, that eating as much as I do is useful, etc.
The only thing I can do it suck it up and keep training and eating.

I train for myself and I really enjoy both the gym and the kitchen, but the social aspect is important as well.

So, Nards, that’s my piece of “I’m so hardcore”. Now, May the Forc–nevermind, Trekkie scum…
[/quote]

Just to be real with you, unless you actually look really developed, chances are, some of those people are fucking with you.

Most people aren’t running up to newbs for training advice. They may be noticing you making progress and may be trying to simply start a conversation or give a small compliment.

People don’t really act like that with little dudes. They may make comments simply because Toby Mcgwire is “built” to some people…but unless you’re huge, if you make it more than that, you are likely just being an ass.

One thing you have to realize is that if you do look average, sedentary people will take your “separatist” action as far as how you eat and even train as an insult to their lack of motivation. The reason is, you still look a little like them.

So, bringing up how you eat and train, unless specifically asked for this info directly, will lead to people treating you funny.

I try to avoid talking about this shit at work. They come to me but there is no way in hell I will even bring it up on my own.

Why would you even need to get defensive about this?

That doesn’t make sense.
[/quote]

I look quite average, but I know that some are really asking how they can improve their diet or workout plan, although sometimes I really can’t help (“How should I train to perform better as basketball player?”).

But you are totally on spot with the “separatist” comment. “Waking up at 5.30? ARE YOU CRAZY?” “What’s the point of going to sleep at 21.30 like a little kid?” “I don’t need to control my diet, I’m fine like this” “I’m happy with how I look, I don’t have any insecurities to fix about it” “With your restrictive diet and your weight lifting, you’re missing the pleasures of life” (Strict diet = No junk and the ‘worst’ food I eat is minced meat or sausages once a week).

I never bring up training or dieting unless asked already and I know already who’s fishing for a fight and who actually wants some help. Sadly the worst offender of the former is my direct boss and his “So, are you strong and big already?” sarcastic smile

Nards, I haven’t seen it, but I guess both sides agree that it sucks?

[/quote]

Yeah, that means people are fucking with you. You fucked up. You don’t look the part so people are reacting that way…including the ones bothering you about training advice.

The truth is, unless they saw you at the gym, they shouldn’t even know about it outside of very minor conversation.

I don’t have to ever talk about lifting. They know I lift because I look like it. That changes the dynamic drastically, so yeah, you set yourself up to be fucked with by your boss…by making your training an issue before you actually earned the right.

That’s just the truth, man.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
…which is why I think smaller guys are the only ones who turn this into a real issue.
[/quote]

I have no way to prove to someone that what I’m doing is working. I’m a beginner and although I’m past the poor diet/plan/whatever phase, I still need more calories and hours under the bar. That’s why it may be a bigger issue for us, small people.

Some people at the office ask me for tips genuinely, some other, for whatever reason, just go defensive about the entire thing. I have promised myself to not snap back at anyone (I have my reasons), but as I said, I have no way to prove that I’m really working out, that eating as much as I do is useful, etc.
The only thing I can do it suck it up and keep training and eating.

I train for myself and I really enjoy both the gym and the kitchen, but the social aspect is important as well.

So, Nards, that’s my piece of “I’m so hardcore”. Now, May the Forc–nevermind, Trekkie scum…
[/quote]

Just to be real with you, unless you actually look really developed, chances are, some of those people are fucking with you.

Most people aren’t running up to newbs for training advice. They may be noticing you making progress and may be trying to simply start a conversation or give a small compliment.

People don’t really act like that with little dudes. They may make comments simply because Toby Mcgwire is “built” to some people…but unless you’re huge, if you make it more than that, you are likely just being an ass.

One thing you have to realize is that if you do look average, sedentary people will take your “separatist” action as far as how you eat and even train as an insult to their lack of motivation. The reason is, you still look a little like them.

So, bringing up how you eat and train, unless specifically asked for this info directly, will lead to people treating you funny.

I try to avoid talking about this shit at work. They come to me but there is no way in hell I will even bring it up on my own.

Why would you even need to get defensive about this?

That doesn’t make sense.
[/quote]

I look quite average, but I know that some are really asking how they can improve their diet or workout plan, although sometimes I really can’t help (“How should I train to perform better as basketball player?”).

But you are totally on spot with the “separatist” comment. “Waking up at 5.30? ARE YOU CRAZY?” “What’s the point of going to sleep at 21.30 like a little kid?” “I don’t need to control my diet, I’m fine like this” “I’m happy with how I look, I don’t have any insecurities to fix about it” “With your restrictive diet and your weight lifting, you’re missing the pleasures of life” (Strict diet = No junk and the ‘worst’ food I eat is minced meat or sausages once a week).

I never bring up training or dieting unless asked already and I know already who’s fishing for a fight and who actually wants some help. Sadly the worst offender of the former is my direct boss and his “So, are you strong and big already?” sarcastic smile

Nards, I haven’t seen it, but I guess both sides agree that it sucks?

[/quote]

Yeah, that means people are fucking with you. You fucked up. You don’t look the part so people are reacting that way…including the ones bothering you about training advice.

The truth is, unless they saw you at the gym, they shouldn’t even know about it outside of very minor conversation.

I don’t have to ever talk about lifting. They know I lift because I look like it. That changes the dynamic drastically, so yeah, you set yourself up to be fucked with by your boss…by making your training an issue before you actually earned the right.

That’s just the truth, man.[/quote]

Well, it’s a matter of time I start to look like it. 5lb/month will eventually start showing with clothes on. It’s also a good source of motivation when I need it.

The worst part of my boss is that he started going to the gym (his girlfriend “suggested” it) and he started to ask me stuff…just to go all defensive mode from the moment I told him about compounds and that it’s not easy, takes time, etc.
As far I know he was doing body pump and “upper body”.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t have to ever talk about lifting. They know I lift because I look like it. That changes the dynamic drastically, so yeah, you set yourself up to be fucked with by your boss…by making your training an issue before you actually earned the right.

That’s just the truth, man.[/quote]

This really is the truth.

One of my bosses calls me Arnold and talks in the accent at times, lol. And I’m pretty sure 95% of my office is convinced I’m on gear. But I went from 180lbs skinny fat to 260 and blowing up 18" neck suit shirts.

I don’t get fucked with, but I do get asked to move everything that weighs more than a ream of letter sized paper.

I never stuck it in anyone’s face though. I wasn’t eating like a contest BB’er at work, and wasn’t talking about it insistently.

Now that modern convenience has caught up with my laziness and I’m tracking my calories on my Driod… People don’t even look twice when I barcode scan the shit I eat at lunch. They have figured out I’m not “normal” by now. Shit they are helping me estimate how many table spoons of peanut butter are on my sandwhich.

The only time I get irritated is when the fat chick, who has gained weight on her last 3 “diets” tries to argue with me. Weightwatchers FTL

[quote]Nards wrote:
You wanna see a nerd? Look no further!

I once hit a scooter driver in the head with a Star Trek book because he drove down the sidewalk and hit me with his mirror.

[/quote]

So the guy riding the scooter is the nerd or you are?
Nerd on nerd action!

:wink:

[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
You wanna see a nerd? Look no further!

I once hit a scooter driver in the head with a Star Trek book because he drove down the sidewalk and hit me with his mirror.

[/quote]

So the guy riding the scooter is the nerd or you are?
Nerd on nerd action!

;-)[/quote]

lol!

nnf?

=D

On topic, I’m given a hard time often about the things I do but I’m 99% sure it’s in fun. I’ve been accused of roid rage by a coworker to which I responded by shoving the contents of his desk on the floor and then a lot of lols. So maybe quit taking yourself so seriously…


?

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:

[quote]Nards wrote:
You wanna see a nerd? Look no further!

I once hit a scooter driver in the head with a Star Trek book because he drove down the sidewalk and hit me with his mirror.

[/quote]

So the guy riding the scooter is the nerd or you are?
Nerd on nerd action!

;-)[/quote]

lol!

nnf?

=D
[/quote]

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t have to ever talk about lifting. They know I lift because I look like it. That changes the dynamic drastically, so yeah, you set yourself up to be fucked with by your boss…by making your training an issue before you actually earned the right.

That’s just the truth, man.[/quote]

This really is the truth.

One of my bosses calls me Arnold and talks in the accent at times, lol. And I’m pretty sure 95% of my office is convinced I’m on gear. But I went from 180lbs skinny fat to 260 and blowing up 18" neck suit shirts.

I don’t get fucked with, but I do get asked to move everything that weighs more than a ream of letter sized paper.

I never stuck it in anyone’s face though. I wasn’t eating like a contest BB’er at work, and wasn’t talking about it insistently.

Now that modern convenience has caught up with my laziness and I’m tracking my calories on my Driod… People don’t even look twice when I barcode scan the shit I eat at lunch. They have figured out I’m not “normal” by now. Shit they are helping me estimate how many table spoons of peanut butter are on my sandwhich.

The only time I get irritated is when the fat chick, who has gained weight on her last 3 “diets” tries to argue with me. Weightwatchers FTL
[/quote]

What app is this?

fatsecret calorie counter

Generally I just say I work out, if they are more interested I tell them more about what I do. I aint really big so it doesn’t happen often lol.

[quote]Edevus wrote:
“Waking up at 5.30? ARE YOU CRAZY?” “What’s the point of going to sleep at 21.30 like a little kid?” “I don’t need to control my diet, I’m fine like this” “I’m happy with how I look, I don’t have any insecurities to fix about it”
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There is one guy at work like this. He always bringing up how he looks good without working out (skinny-fat 155 at 5’9 1/2") and how people who workout are insecure. I give him a patronizing “That’s awesome” and dismiss him. In reality, he’s mad because nobody goes out to lunch with him anymore because they all go to the gym now.

I used to argue with people acted like the above quoted. Now that I’m older I realize how stupid that is. Whenever people make useless statements or try to bait me into dumb arguments, I just ignore them and move on.

[quote]Glass Diamonds wrote:

So tell me, T-Nation, how do YOU handle the stupid workplace questions about your participation in The Life from the nosy and terminally uninformed?

[/quote]

With a little grace, understanding that not everyone shares my goals, interests or genetics and that being able to curl, lift, toss, push press or whatever one of my co-workers is pretty low on the totem pole of priorities.

Also understanding that someone asking you about something that is obviously of interest or priority to you is no different than you making a similar inquiry about another person’s obvious interest or pursuit.

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
“Waking up at 5.30? ARE YOU CRAZY?” “What’s the point of going to sleep at 21.30 like a little kid?” “I don’t need to control my diet, I’m fine like this” “I’m happy with how I look, I don’t have any insecurities to fix about it”
[/quote]

There is one guy at work like this. He always bringing up how he looks good without working out (skinny-fat 155 at 5’9 1/2") and how people who workout are insecure. I give him a patronizing “That’s awesome” and dismiss him. In reality, he’s mad because nobody goes out to lunch with him anymore because they all go to the gym now.

I used to argue with people acted like the above quoted. Now that I’m older I realize how stupid that is. Whenever people make useless statements or try to bait me into dumb arguments, I just ignore them and move on.
[/quote]

I think that’s the wisest thing to do, but I also don’t want to sound rude, so I’m answering with short sentences, look somewhere else and appear busy.

I feel some of them are trying to show themselves that working out and controlling the nutrition are not required to be happy or something, so they ask those weird and stupid questions in order to fill that ego issue.
It’s like if I approach a rich guy and I say “But you got to pay lots of taxes, no? I mean yeah, you earn lots of money, but you also pay lots of taxes. And people try to become your friends just because you got money, not like they do with me. I mean, not everything is good, right? Because I’m happy with the amount of money I earn. I don’t need to be rich to be happy”.

[quote]Edevus wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
“Waking up at 5.30? ARE YOU CRAZY?” “What’s the point of going to sleep at 21.30 like a little kid?” “I don’t need to control my diet, I’m fine like this” “I’m happy with how I look, I don’t have any insecurities to fix about it”
[/quote]

There is one guy at work like this. He always bringing up how he looks good without working out (skinny-fat 155 at 5’9 1/2") and how people who workout are insecure. I give him a patronizing “That’s awesome” and dismiss him. In reality, he’s mad because nobody goes out to lunch with him anymore because they all go to the gym now.

I used to argue with people acted like the above quoted. Now that I’m older I realize how stupid that is. Whenever people make useless statements or try to bait me into dumb arguments, I just ignore them and move on.
[/quote]

I think that’s the wisest thing to do, but I also don’t want to sound rude, so I’m answering with short sentences, look somewhere else and appear busy.

I feel some of them are trying to show themselves that working out and controlling the nutrition are not required to be happy or something, so they ask those weird and stupid questions in order to fill that ego issue.
It’s like if I approach a rich guy and I say “But you got to pay lots of taxes, no? I mean yeah, you earn lots of money, but you also pay lots of taxes. And people try to become your friends just because you got money, not like they do with me. I mean, not everything is good, right? Because I’m happy with the amount of money I earn. I don’t need to be rich to be happy”.

[/quote]

Yeah, that’s human nature. They do it on this board too. There is no specific place for it. On average, people despise anyone who makes them look bad or who upstages them…unless they are also fairly successful.

^
I think this is why people are constantly following you around the board trying to start bullshit arguments for no good reason.

OP, where are the pics?

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
^
I think this is why people are constantly following you around the board trying to start bullshit arguments for no good reason.[/quote]

Oh yeah? Well you’re wrong and you’re an asshole. I have a pie chart that proves it.