What Channel is World Cup Opening Ceremony?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.

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So we’re eliminating 4 of the ro16 teams because ‘they don’t deserve it’ for going 1-1-1. Never mind that the teams did what was required of them(earn more points or have better goal differential for their tiebreakers), we’ll just toss them out and give the teams they were slotted to play BYEs. Don’t bother looking for more deserving teams, because no team that failed to qualify had more than 4 points(which means they also went 1-1-1 or worse.)

I get that “we’re from Murrca we have wins and losses over here bro” but for fuck’s sake it’s really not difficult to understand at all. People being obtuse on purpose to make some silly point about draws or something.

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]mbdix wrote:
Shit, I like it. I wish we could get 100,000 fans at Jerry World to do that before every game.[/quote]

and they’ll have the same results as the men’s soccer team. [/quote]

Does this = the Cowboy’s making the playoffs this year?

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
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Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports.

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'Merica

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
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Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports. [/quote]

As a huge fan of the Reigning Superbowl Champion Seattle Seahawks, the 7-9 playoff entrance was an abomination and a blight on the sport. No team should enter the post season with a losing record.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
[/quote]

Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports. [/quote]

As a huge fan of the Reigning Superbowl Champion Seattle Seahawks, the 7-9 playoff entrance was an abomination and a blight on the sport. No team should enter the post season with a losing record.

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Totally agree.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
[/quote]

Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports. [/quote]

As a huge fan of the Reigning Superbowl Champion Seattle Seahawks, the 7-9 playoff entrance was an abomination and a blight on the sport. No team should enter the post season with a losing record.

[/quote]

The way the Eastern division of the National League is setting up in the MLB this year we may see the same thing in baseball. I don’t understand the vitriol over this. We should be used to this. The first place team from the SWAC gets an automatic bid in the NCAA basketball tournament despite not really deserving it. You play in a round robin style tournament things like this will almost always happen.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
[/quote]

Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports. [/quote]

As a huge fan of the Reigning Superbowl Champion Seattle Seahawks, the 7-9 playoff entrance was an abomination and a blight on the sport. No team should enter the post season with a losing record.

[/quote]

The way the Eastern division of the National League is setting up in the MLB this year we may see the same thing in baseball. I don’t understand the vitriol over this. We should be used to this. The first place team from the SWAC gets an automatic bid in the NCAA basketball tournament despite not really deserving it. You play in a round robin style tournament things like this will almost always happen.[/quote]

Playoffs are for winners.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
The first place team from the SWAC gets an automatic bid in the NCAA basketball tournament despite not really deserving it. You play in a round robin style tournament things like this will almost always happen.[/quote]

The difference between the NCAA tourny and the World Cup though is you’re out if you lose… So the SWAC champion is eliminated almost immediately. The U.S. team didn’t win 2/3 games, but advanced. That would be like if the Raven’s lost to the Charges in the Wild Card Round, but the Dolphin’s lost to the Patriots by a larger margin so the Ravens get to advance to the Divisional Round, which just seems absurd to me.

The World Cup could be single or double elimination with shootouts. I think that would be fine and more exciting to watch (as an American).

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
[/quote]

Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports. [/quote]

As a huge fan of the Reigning Superbowl Champion Seattle Seahawks, the 7-9 playoff entrance was an abomination and a blight on the sport. No team should enter the post season with a losing record.

[/quote]

The way the Eastern division of the National League is setting up in the MLB this year we may see the same thing in baseball. I don’t understand the vitriol over this. We should be used to this. The first place team from the SWAC gets an automatic bid in the NCAA basketball tournament despite not really deserving it. You play in a round robin style tournament things like this will almost always happen.[/quote]

Playoffs are for winners. [/quote]

But this is not really like the playoffs. Its more like sprinting or Strongman. In the early weeding out stages you can go on and not win a damn thing as long as you finish better than the rest. I don’t even like soccer very much but this is one of the dumber arguments against it.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
[/quote]

Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports. [/quote]

As a huge fan of the Reigning Superbowl Champion Seattle Seahawks, the 7-9 playoff entrance was an abomination and a blight on the sport. No team should enter the post season with a losing record.

[/quote]

The way the Eastern division of the National League is setting up in the MLB this year we may see the same thing in baseball. I don’t understand the vitriol over this. We should be used to this. The first place team from the SWAC gets an automatic bid in the NCAA basketball tournament despite not really deserving it. You play in a round robin style tournament things like this will almost always happen.[/quote]

Playoffs are for winners. [/quote]

But this is not really like the playoffs. Its more like sprinting or Strongman. You could not win a single event but as long as you can finish high enough, you get in and can win. In the early weeding out stages you can go on and not win a damn thing as long as you finish better than the rest. I don’t even like soccer very much but this is one of the dumber arguments against it.
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I didn’t say anything about soccer or make an argument about soccer. I was responding to the claim that allowing a 7-9 Seahawks into a real playoff system was somehow an acceptable outcome. It wasn’t; it was an abomination.

Edit: And I’m not sure why you point to the Seahawks as an example of something in this thread if you also think the NFL’s playoff system isn’t even comparable.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]andresarpi wrote:

[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
This entire sport is played by vaginas, my beef is someone trying to Mike Tyson the guy, inevitably leading to a score.

Also, the red card given was ridiculous. I have seen soft porn more offensive than that. [/quote]
at least Suarez was banned for quite a bit, rightfully so.

Apparently the red card given to the Italian was justified by the rules, but I think most refs would have yellow’d that.[/quote]

Can’t agree here. He has no intention of getting the ball, only of hurting the other player. that can be excused, thought. (i have trouble saying this in english) the way he angles(?) his foot is not. even if you have no bad intentions, going to the ball that way, cleats first, is almost always red carded.

BTW, i was able to be in the stadium for argentina-iran. i’ve been waiting since korea-japan for this and it was crazy. almost died from a heart attack.[/quote]

I guess, as an American, I just don’t understand. It looked like he barely bumped into the other player while going for the ball. Maybe my perception is just skewed since I watch a lot of football (American football that is). [/quote]

It is really no different than when the 2010-11 Seahawks made the playoffs at 7-9. Were their other teams better? Yes. Did they deserve to be there? No, despite the fact that they won their playoff game. But they did enough to win their division (group) and get in the game. Doing enough to survive and advance is all that you have to do. This holds true with almost any sports playoff system.
[/quote]

Ahhhh, I donno. The 7-9 Seahawks was an exception more than anything. Most divisional winners have a winning record in most sports. [/quote]

As a huge fan of the Reigning Superbowl Champion Seattle Seahawks, the 7-9 playoff entrance was an abomination and a blight on the sport. No team should enter the post season with a losing record.

[/quote]

The way the Eastern division of the National League is setting up in the MLB this year we may see the same thing in baseball. I don’t understand the vitriol over this. We should be used to this. The first place team from the SWAC gets an automatic bid in the NCAA basketball tournament despite not really deserving it. You play in a round robin style tournament things like this will almost always happen.[/quote]

Playoffs are for winners. [/quote]

But this is not really like the playoffs. Its more like sprinting or Strongman. You could not win a single event but as long as you can finish high enough, you get in and can win. In the early weeding out stages you can go on and not win a damn thing as long as you finish better than the rest. I don’t even like soccer very much but this is one of the dumber arguments against it.
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I didn’t say anything about soccer or make an argument about soccer. I was responding to the claim that allowing a 7-9 Seahawks into a real playoff system was somehow an acceptable outcome. It wasn’t; it was an abomination.

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Yeah, I guess. But You could make the case for other teams over one or two division champs most years. In 2008 a 9-7 Cardinals team, and an 8-8 Chargers squad went to the playoffs while an 11-5 Pats team sat at home. Its just luck of the draw.

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I can see why the NFL wants a representative from each division, but they should draw the line at 9-7. At 8-8, they should simply declare that division dogshit unworthy of a representative in the playoffs and award the spot to a team that deserves to be there.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I can see why the NFL wants a representative from each division, but they should draw the line at 9-7. At 8-8, they should simply declare that division dogshit unworthy of a representative in the playoffs and award the spot to a team that deserves to be there. [/quote]

then what’s the point having divisions?

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I can see why the NFL wants a representative from each division, but they should draw the line at 9-7. At 8-8, they should simply declare that division dogshit unworthy of a representative in the playoffs and award the spot to a team that deserves to be there. [/quote]

then what’s the point having divisions? [/quote]

Divisions create additional incentives to make regular season games more meaningful and they also create rivalries. But, IMO, if your division sucks so bad your “champion” has a losing record your “champion” shouldn’t get to go to the playoffs.

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I dont think that happens enough to warrant a major overhaul of the playoff system. I think the NFL has it right and should not expand either.

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[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
I can see why the NFL wants a representative from each division, but they should draw the line at 9-7. At 8-8, they should simply declare that division dogshit unworthy of a representative in the playoffs and award the spot to a team that deserves to be there. [/quote]

What about when you have a very strong division where all the teams in that division are better than the best team in a week division? (Not as common in todays NFL, but used to be an issue)

A very strong team in a very strong division can go 8-8, and be better than a team in a weak ass division that goes 10-6. Also, non-divisional opponents on a teams schedule can affect it.

Whatever it takes, whatever you have to do. Win the division and you’re in, is the best way in my opinion.

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[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
A very strong team in a very strong division can go 8-8, and be better than a team in a weak ass division that goes 10-6.
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The 7-9 Seahawks and the rest of that division got beat up outside the division that year. With interdivisional games I don’t see a “strong” division sending a 7-9 or 8-8 team to the playoffs.

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What world cup?

Talking real football playoffs

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