[quote]youngguns516 wrote:
there are hidden safes people store their gear in. they look like hair-spray cans, soda-cans, candles, etc. and they even weigh the same and have the same weight distribution. i read an article (that i cant find right now) about police officers saying that these diversion safes make finding contraband very hard. they say the safes look and feel the same as the real product.
or you can google “diversion safe” or “hidden safe”
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Have you ever seen an FBI/other raid on a house? If they’re looking for evidence they will clean that place out, or strip search everything on the spot. People do it for a living, and I’m sure a pseudo shaving cream can isn’t going to work. Besides, if they’re going to bust your shit like that and search for evidence they’ve probably go enough on you already, or you have way to much shit to hid in a tiny safe.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
2thepain wrote:
I wonder how hard it is for customs to detect small amounts of the raw powders from china. Perhaps it is time I learn how to brew my own. If only for my own person use I could brew once a year and be set.
I would imgaine much harder, that my be the best idea yet. Is it very hard to get the powders?[/quote]
Your government (and ours shuffling behind them) seems to be all over anything coming from China these days- toys, dogfood, clothes, etc. Is there anywhere else with less heat on them where they manufacture the raw powders? I’d love to home-brew my own gear as well, but getting a decent powder source is harder than finding a domestic UGL.
There are a lot more pressing issues in the world today that our government overlooks. You mean to tell me that they can’t spend time fighting poverty or aids. No, we can bust people that don’t hurt other people. Its rediculous! Shit tax it let them make money off of it and go on with our crazy country!
[quote]bighowie95 wrote:
There are a lot more pressing issues in the world today that our government overlooks. You mean to tell me that they can’t spend time fighting poverty or aids. No, we can bust people that don’t hurt other people. Its rediculous! Shit tax it let them make money off of it and go on with our crazy country![/quote]
I totally agree. The proven negative health effects of alcohol and tobacco far exceed that of steroids. Yet alcohol and tobacco are still legal and generate huge amounts of tax dollars for our government. I think that things like steroids and weed should be legal and sold as any other product.
The amount of money that will be raised through taxes will be huge, not to mention the amount of money that would be saved by not prosecuting and detaining offenders and could go a long way to fixing much larger problems in our country.
I agree that steroids should be legal BUT I think there should be some serious regulations on it. For one you should be at least 21+ or so before you can ever use. You must pass a physical and written test before using as well.
Though of course legalizing will probably still lead to young people using and messing up their bodies. So its hard to say just legalize steroids and it will fix problems, thats fine for responsible users but when its available to the public legally people will try to use them when they are not ready as a short cut.
The bottom line is people under 21 get alcohol and they abuse it. If kids under 21 want steroids, they are going to get them as well. It’s our duty to show them that they must be responsible and not supply the kids steroids!
Yeah, its a catch-22, but when used with caution and not abused, roids are not a bad thing! They are no worse than food preservatives and what they do to a persons body and the government is in on that as well!
What about using a PO box as an alternative to getting it shipped to your house. It wouldnt fix the problem of you getting your gear seized but it would help against any fines possibly.
[quote]playmaker8 wrote:
What about using a PO box as an alternative to getting it shipped to your house. It wouldnt fix the problem of you getting your gear seized but it would help against any fines possibly.[/quote]
Generally its safer to send to your house, that way you don’t seem as suspicious and can play the dumb card of I didn’t order this. I believe there is a a great thread somewhere around here detailing how to order ext.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
lol what we should do is buy a very large bottle of oil and label it olive oil! [/quote]
This would honestly be a good idea. Oils are regularly purchased in 3L tins for restaurants. Even I order these 3L tins online and have them shipped as no stores in my area sell good tinned oil.
Plus the steroid is dissolved in oil, so say they open up a package and there’s a tin/bottle of sesame or peanut oil, and it just happens to have hormone dissolved in it, it would still smell and taste like the actual oil. Of course at this point no agent would open a sealed tin/bottle that is distributed from a legitimate company.
It would be best to use darkened glass bottles and tins, which is common with quality oils, so that the BA and BB aren’t visible floating in the oils (if you look at a clear vial with this in it you can tell the difference from plain oil).
Of course tins would be the best method so forms of x-ray absorptiometry and other methods cant be used effectively as can be used with just glass, though I doubt they’d go that far. You never know. Just my thoughts. I am not advocating that anyone do this.
[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
youngguns516 wrote:
there are hidden safes people store their gear in. they look like hair-spray cans, soda-cans, candles, etc. and they even weigh the same and have the same weight distribution. i read an article (that i cant find right now) about police officers saying that these diversion safes make finding contraband very hard. they say the safes look and feel the same as the real product.
or you can google “diversion safe” or “hidden safe”
Have you ever seen an FBI/other raid on a house? If they’re looking for evidence they will clean that place out, or strip search everything on the spot. People do it for a living, and I’m sure a pseudo shaving cream can isn’t going to work. Besides, if they’re going to bust your shit like that and search for evidence they’ve probably go enough on you already, or you have way to much shit to hid in a tiny safe.[/quote]
I could see the use of them to hide peptides like Hcg, Igf, etc. in one’s fridge. But yeah, if they are searching your house for contraband they will search those containers and LE knows just as much about them as anyone else.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
There are always ways to beat any system…
If people were willing to buy 100ml at a time, it would be worthwhile for non-US based suppliers to send 100ml of unfiltered oil (with steroid dissolved inside it). It could be ‘disguised’ as XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.
The bottle would be professionally labelled (with a made up name and company address) and even sealed with some shrinkwrap.
The end user would have to filter the gear and put it into vials.
The government would have to test the contents to reveal it’s true nature.
Personally, I believe in hiding in plain sight. I learnt that lesson when I had to hide a cannister of firearm propellant mixture, very quickly, from an angry housemaster who had just witnessed me burning some, out of a study window.
That’s why I don’t think that talking in this manner is a bad idea, because it relies on the inherant nature of a funded organisation… they can’t afford to test every suspect container that contains oil.
Bushy[/quote]
Seems like a solid idea in my opinion. One that I’d consider and support, for role-playing at least.