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[quote]Karado wrote:

You never thought of some of these things before because you were KEPT from learning them,
I was asking King Kai about any Biblical hint of ET’s and ‘‘abductions’’ because they seem to be supernatural
events, and if they are, Scripture must have addressed them in ONE way or ANOTHER…God wouldn’t
leave us ‘hanging’ with this…
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Karado, you are wrong to assume that people have been “kept” from learning about these things. That’s simply not true - its not as if Christians are secretly hiding important information. The reality is, as Tirib pointed out, the Nephilim play no significant role at all in biblical theology. Neither Jesus nor Paul nor any other biblical figure mentions the Nephilim as an important part of their theology. As far as our life and practice is concerned, the Nephilim don’t matter at all.

And as for the ET/ Abduction stuff, your assumption (i.e., that Scripture must address all supernatural events) is simply erroneous. There is no basis for that assumption. Scripture leaves out ALL kinds of things; it refrains from explaining all sorts of things, including the Nephilim. The fact that all Scripture speaks truth does NOT mean that all truths (spiritual or otherwise) are contained in Scripture.

Yes, that was my point KingKai. There are dozens of profound eternally significant sermons in just that passage from Peter. AND I’m glad you got to our confused brother Aragorn first. My thoughts exactly.

I have absolutely no time until at least this evening and maybe not even then. I’ll get that email to ya as soon as I can. I’m out the door. Still working a huge network migration at the church.

Karado meets a bit more attention too.

Aragorn, if you like I’ll put together a quick tutorial on how to use the tags on this site. I have one, but it uses a conversation between Pat and I that we have put behind us. I’ll redo it if you will find it helpful.

[quote]Karado wrote:

7 ''Could have been a tsunami that allowed the waters to part."

So the Jews had to time it JUST right and run REALLY FAST to cross just before the Pharoahs drowned when the waters returned,
GEE, why didn’t I ever think of that possibility?
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This one jumped out at me. Timing is why it Was a miracle.

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:
I don’t even understand what the point of this post was, D. Karado says we believe in miraculous occurrences, so you claim many of them aren’t all that miraculous? I seriously don’t know what you are trying to communicate.
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Did you not notice that he quoted me and then went on to mention that we believe X and that it was crazy to believe it. I deleted most of the previous post because I do not like walls of texts. Just tried to clean it up a bit, but I guess I did a bad job.

They are miracles, but they did not happen once in the Bible. They still happen at the correct times. Timing is everything in a Miracle. God shows up at the exact point in time throughout history not just in the Bible to help his people. God is God and there are somethings in the Bible that can not be understood fully this side of Heaven.

I wrote that post after watching the frustrating NBA Finals game last night, and need to get my mind off of it. I just posted, and probably should have just tried to go to sleep.

Please do not take me wrong D, but I think this: [quote]They are miracles, but they did not happen once in the Bible. They still happen at the correct times. Timing is everything in a Miracle. God shows up at the exact point in time throughout history not just in the Bible to help his people. God is God and there are somethings in the Bible that can not be understood fully this side of Heaven. [/quote] is not conveying the meaning you intended. OR, I am not understanding which is also entirely possible.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Please do not take me wrong D, but I think this: [quote]They are miracles, but they did not happen once in the Bible. They still happen at the correct times. Timing is everything in a Miracle. God shows up at the exact point in time throughout history not just in the Bible to help his people. God is God and there are somethings in the Bible that can not be understood fully this side of Heaven. [/quote] is not conveying the meaning you intended. OR, I am not understanding which is also entirely possible.[/quote]

Maybe I am just tired and should shut up.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:
I don’t even understand what the point of this post was, D. Karado says we believe in miraculous occurrences, so you claim many of them aren’t all that miraculous? I seriously don’t know what you are trying to communicate.
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Did you not notice that he quoted me and then went on to mention that we believe X and that it was crazy to believe it. I deleted most of the previous post because I do not like walls of texts. Just tried to clean it up a bit, but I guess I did a bad job.

They are miracles, but they did not happen once in the Bible. They still happen at the correct times. Timing is everything in a Miracle. God shows up at the exact point in time throughout history not just in the Bible to help his people. God is God and there are somethings in the Bible that can not be understood fully this side of Heaven.

I wrote that post after watching the frustrating NBA Finals game last night, and need to get my mind off of it. I just posted, and probably should have just tried to go to sleep. [/quote]

I don’t think Karado meant “crazy” as in “you should be put in an insane asylum.” It seemed more like his statement was hyperbolic. That being said, while I disagree with Karado’s claim that the things we believe are necessarily strange in the same way as alien abductions and the like, I also think that your attempt to reduce miracles to natural occurrences at unnatural times is not helpful either. A floating axe head is not a natural occurrence; neither is the resurrection of a dead man when his body touches another dead man’s bones. While I would not argue that our faith should be based entirely on miracles, the position you are advocating does not do justice to the nature of the miracles listed in the text, and worse, it promotes a view of miracles’ origins that could just as easily be construed as chance.

And for the record, though I freely admit that I’m skeptical about the supposed truth of ninjas walking on water, even if such stories are to be believed, the fact is that Jesus was not a “ninja,” and Peter CERTAINLY wasn’t. There’s nothing in the text to suggest they were moving at super speeds or dancing on air or any of that Crouching Tiger nonsense. You really need to go back and read that narrative (Matt. 14:22-33) again.

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:
I don’t even understand what the point of this post was, D. Karado says we believe in miraculous occurrences, so you claim many of them aren’t all that miraculous? I seriously don’t know what you are trying to communicate.
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Did you not notice that he quoted me and then went on to mention that we believe X and that it was crazy to believe it. I deleted most of the previous post because I do not like walls of texts. Just tried to clean it up a bit, but I guess I did a bad job.

They are miracles, but they did not happen once in the Bible. They still happen at the correct times. Timing is everything in a Miracle. God shows up at the exact point in time throughout history not just in the Bible to help his people. God is God and there are somethings in the Bible that can not be understood fully this side of Heaven.

I wrote that post after watching the frustrating NBA Finals game last night, and need to get my mind off of it. I just posted, and probably should have just tried to go to sleep. [/quote]

I don’t think Karado meant “crazy” as in “you should be put in an insane asylum.” It seemed more like his statement was hyperbolic. That being said, while I disagree with Karado’s claim that the things we believe are necessarily strange in the same way as alien abductions and the like, I also think that your attempt to reduce miracles to natural occurrences at unnatural times is not helpful either. A floating axe head is not a natural occurrence; neither is the resurrection of a dead man when his body touches another dead man’s bones. While I would not argue that our faith should be based entirely on miracles, the position you are advocating does not do justice to the nature of the miracles listed in the text, and worse, it promotes a view of miracles’ origins that could just as easily be construed as chance.

And for the record, though I freely admit that I’m skeptical about the supposed truth of ninjas walking on water, even if such stories are to be believed, the fact is that Jesus was not a “ninja,” and Peter CERTAINLY wasn’t. There’s nothing in the text to suggest they were moving at super speeds or dancing on air or any of that Crouching Tiger nonsense. You really need to go back and read that narrative (Matt. 14:22-33) again.[/quote]

I agree with you the act of Jesus and Peter walking on water is a miracle, and not the same thing that what Ninjas do. Jesus and Peter were out in the middle of the Sea while Ninjas are more of an optical illusion near shore or on still waters.

Where did the body on bones come from and the axe head? I know they are in the Bible. I looked back at the post of Karado and it was not one that I talked about. Maybe I should have just stuck to the parting of the red sea. A volcanic eruption a thousand miles away causing a tsunami that traveled across the Med. Sea at the precise time the Israelites got there and needed to cross, and then subsided at the time the Egyptians crossed. That is a miracle. God created everything so God using nature to perform a miracle does not dilute who God is. Also why does a miracle have to be big. It can be something small.

What is a miracle? God showing up and doing what man needs at a precise point in time. That could be nature, or an evil person. God will use all to his will. I know that is a simplified definition. If we are talking about signs then that is different.

I like you KingKai a lot, and enjoy your posts. I am on your side. Maybe I simplified a lot and took this thread in a wrong direction, and for that I am sorry.

King Kai wrote:
“Karado, you are wrong to assume that people have been “kept” from learning about these things. That’s simply not true - its not as if Christians are secretly hiding important information.”

Not purposely, more out of ignorance, especially in these times…I think the Nephilim WILL play a role in the coming
end times just as the era Jesus specifically pointed to…He didn’t point to the time of Sodom, THEY didn’t expect any judgment
there either…He pointed specifically to the Days of Noah because all flesh was corrupted at that time, including Animals,
WHY judgment on certain animals and NOT other kinds like the ones not corrupted and hauled into the Ark?

‘Connect the dots’ if you will.
1 Corinthians 15:39: “For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish.”

So, ANIMALS have “flesh” too.

Genesis 6:12: “And God saw the earth, and behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth.”

Catch that? ALL flesh (including animals)…not “some flesh”…not “most flesh”…ALL FLESH, which must include animals
because they have ‘‘flesh’’ as well.

The Book Of Jubilees (I know) says that: ''and all flesh had corrupted its orders".

ALL flesh had corrupted it’s “orders”…interesting.

So, where ARE we headed? What is THIS World PREPARING us for in the years or decades ahead?

For ALL FLESH to be corrupted again?

Hint: These Unresolved Ethical Questions Are About to Get Real

Present Day: http://gf2045.com/

King Kai…Tirib…Who is to say Noah’s Day wasn’t POSSIBLY as technologically advanced as today?
You all know full well Those very same evil influences back then as in today never died, and they are at it again.
The ‘‘Corruption’’ of all flesh is before us AGAIN, as it was in the days of Noah…What more ‘‘proof’’ does anyone
need? The goals of GF2045 are serious, We’re headed in that direction, and only God can ‘derail’ it.

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]Karado wrote:

You never thought of some of these things before because you were KEPT from learning them,
I was asking King Kai about any Biblical hint of ET’s and ‘‘abductions’’ because they seem to be supernatural
events, and if they are, Scripture must have addressed them in ONE way or ANOTHER…God wouldn’t
leave us ‘hanging’ with this…
[/quote]

Karado, you are wrong to assume that people have been “kept” from learning about these things. That’s simply not true - its not as if Christians are secretly hiding important information. The reality is, as Tirib pointed out, the Nephilim play no significant role at all in biblical theology. Neither Jesus nor Paul nor any other biblical figure mentions the Nephilim as an important part of their theology. As far as our life and practice is concerned, the Nephilim don’t matter at all.

And as for the ET/ Abduction stuff, your assumption (i.e., that Scripture must address all supernatural events) is simply erroneous. There is no basis for that assumption. Scripture leaves out ALL kinds of things; it refrains from explaining all sorts of things, including the Nephilim. The fact that all Scripture speaks truth does NOT mean that all truths (spiritual or otherwise) are contained in Scripture.[/quote]

If they did, wouldn’t that kind of defeat the purpose of faith? Why yes it would. Hmm…perhaps the fact that things are not always explained fully as we would like them to be…or even mentioned at all…is on purpose.

Nice post King, i didn’t have the desire

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Aragorn, if you like I’ll put together a quick tutorial on how to use the tags on this site. I have one, but it uses a conversation between Pat and I that we have put behind us. I’ll redo it if you will find it helpful.[/quote]

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That’s very neighborly of you, but I’m not sure what brought this up…I’m quoting old posts just fine. Or did I miss something in this thread?

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:
I don’t even understand what the point of this post was, D. Karado says we believe in miraculous occurrences, so you claim many of them aren’t all that miraculous? I seriously don’t know what you are trying to communicate.
[/quote]

Did you not notice that he quoted me and then went on to mention that we believe X and that it was crazy to believe it. I deleted most of the previous post because I do not like walls of texts. Just tried to clean it up a bit, but I guess I did a bad job.

They are miracles, but they did not happen once in the Bible. They still happen at the correct times. Timing is everything in a Miracle. God shows up at the exact point in time throughout history not just in the Bible to help his people. God is God and there are somethings in the Bible that can not be understood fully this side of Heaven.

I wrote that post after watching the frustrating NBA Finals game last night, and need to get my mind off of it. I just posted, and probably should have just tried to go to sleep. [/quote]

I don’t think Karado meant “crazy” as in “you should be put in an insane asylum.” It seemed more like his statement was hyperbolic. That being said, while I disagree with Karado’s claim that the things we believe are necessarily strange in the same way as alien abductions and the like, I also think that your attempt to reduce miracles to natural occurrences at unnatural times is not helpful either. A floating axe head is not a natural occurrence; neither is the resurrection of a dead man when his body touches another dead man’s bones. While I would not argue that our faith should be based entirely on miracles, the position you are advocating does not do justice to the nature of the miracles listed in the text, and worse, it promotes a view of miracles’ origins that could just as easily be construed as chance.

And for the record, though I freely admit that I’m skeptical about the supposed truth of ninjas walking on water, even if such stories are to be believed, the fact is that Jesus was not a “ninja,” and Peter CERTAINLY wasn’t. There’s nothing in the text to suggest they were moving at super speeds or dancing on air or any of that Crouching Tiger nonsense. You really need to go back and read that narrative (Matt. 14:22-33) again.[/quote]

I agree with you the act of Jesus and Peter walking on water is a miracle, and not the same thing that what Ninjas do. Jesus and Peter were out in the middle of the Sea while Ninjas are more of an optical illusion near shore or on still waters.

Where did the body on bones come from and the axe head? I know they are in the Bible. I looked back at the post of Karado and it was not one that I talked about. Maybe I should have just stuck to the parting of the red sea. A volcanic eruption a thousand miles away causing a tsunami that traveled across the Med. Sea at the precise time the Israelites got there and needed to cross, and then subsided at the time the Egyptians crossed. That is a miracle. God created everything so God using nature to perform a miracle does not dilute who God is. Also why does a miracle have to be big. It can be something small.

What is a miracle? God showing up and doing what man needs at a precise point in time. That could be nature, or an evil person. God will use all to his will. I know that is a simplified definition. If we are talking about signs then that is different.

I like you KingKai a lot, and enjoy your posts. I am on your side. Maybe I simplified a lot and took this thread in a wrong direction, and for that I am sorry. [/quote]

I like you too, D, and I wasn’t trying to attack you. Sorry if it came off like that. Just didn’t understand what you were getting at.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Please do not take me wrong D, but I think this: [quote]They are miracles, but they did not happen once in the Bible. They still happen at the correct times. Timing is everything in a Miracle. God shows up at the exact point in time throughout history not just in the Bible to help his people. God is God and there are somethings in the Bible that can not be understood fully this side of Heaven. [/quote] is not conveying the meaning you intended. OR, I am not understanding which is also entirely possible.[/quote]

Maybe I am just tired and should shut up.[/quote]
No you don’t need to shut up brother. Just stick to the text. That’s all. Take a look at the 14th of Exodus again too. Exodus 14 ESV
It says
“Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and the Lord drove the sea back by a strong east wind all night [whatever exactly that means] and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. And the people of Israel went into the midst of the sea on dry ground, the waters being a wall to them on their right hand and on their left.”
He restrained that water as walls on their right and their left. God also said He would Himself harden pharaoh’s heart, along with his men so that they would pursue the Jews into the parted sea. Would YOU go in there after seeing your enemie’s God provide that kind of escape? Not me. I’m callin it a day and goin home. YHWH worked directly in the Egyptians Himself to induce them to give chase so that He could glorify Himself in their spectacular destruction. He says that exact thing twice.

That part of the narrative concludes with “Thus the Lord saved Israel that day from the hand of the Egyptians, and Israel saw the Egyptians dead on the seashore. Israel saw the great power that the Lord used against the Egyptians, so the people feared the Lord, and they believed in the Lord and in his servant Moses.”

Nobody had any doubt about what happened there. There was no fathomable explanation beyond a mighty sovereign God delivering His people safely by His own hand. That was God’s intention. He never fails.

I’m sure KingKai’s point too is just to be careful not to see too much more in the biblical miracles than what is reported. God is the author of nature. He is free to work within, without, above or against it as He sees fit. I know you agree, I’m just reiterating.

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Aragorn, if you like I’ll put together a quick tutorial on how to use the tags on this site. I have one, but it uses a conversation between Pat and I that we have put behind us. I’ll redo it if you will find it helpful.[/quote]

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That’s very neighborly of you, but I’m not sure what brought this up…I’m quoting old posts just fine. Or did I miss something in this thread?[/quote]
I’m the one who’s tired and should shut up. Sorry about that. I see it was Dmaddox who said he didn’t know how to construct posts with nested quotes LOL! That goes for you then D. I’ll show ya how. It’s pretty simple actually once you see how it works.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

I’m the one who’s tired and should shut up. Sorry about that. I see it was Dmaddox who said he didn’t know how to construct posts with nested quotes LOL! That goes for you then D. I’ll show ya how. It’s pretty simple actually once you see how it works.
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You have my email so please send it to me.

[quote]Karado wrote:
King Kai wrote:
“Karado, you are wrong to assume that people have been “kept” from learning about these things. That’s simply not true - its not as if Christians are secretly hiding important information.”

Not purposely, more out of ignorance, especially in these times…I think the Nephilim WILL play a role in the coming
end times just as the era Jesus specifically pointed to…He didn’t point to the time of Sodom, THEY didn’t expect any judgment
there either…He pointed specifically to the Days of Noah because all flesh was corrupted at that time, including Animals,
WHY judgment on certain animals and NOT other kinds like the ones not corrupted and hauled into the Ark?
[/quote]

First of all, let’s look at the passage in question again. Matthew 24:37-42: "For as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark, and they knew nothing until the flood came and swept them all away, so too will be the coming of the Son of Man… Keep awake, therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming."

Two points worth mentioning here. (A) It’s a basic rule of hermeneutics (interpretive theory) that you look to the text itself for its meaning before positing a background for its interpretation that cannot be defended from the text. This passage CLEARLY emphasizes the unexpectedness of Christ’s coming; it says absolutely NOTHING about the “corruption of all flesh.” Jesus draws an analogy between his coming and the speed and unexpectedness of the cataclysm in Noah’s day. This point is further clarified by Jesus’ concluding warning - “Keep awake, therefore, for you do not know what day your Lord is coming,” i.e., be prepared for the coming of Christ because it will be unexpected. (B) The Jews considered Noah’s flood the quintessential example of God’s judgment because it is presented as a move against all humankind; it was not limited to a single city. Thus, it is actually more logical in this context (i.e., where Jesus is discussing the coming judgment on the entire world), if one is going to refer to one of those events, to refer to the time of Noah. You cannot ignore the text’s own indications toward its meaning on a flimsy excuse like, “Jesus could have used a different example,” especially when the example he chose IS the quintessential example of God’s judgment.

Moreover, read Luke 17:24-30. "For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other, so will the Son of Man come in his day. But first he must endure much suffering and be rejected by this generation. Just as it was in the days of Noah, so too it will be in the days of the Son of Man. They were eating and drinking, and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed all of them. Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot: they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building, but on the day that Lot left Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from heaven and destroyed all of them - it will be like that on the day that the Son of Man is revealed."

This passage emphasizes two things that your interpretation missed. First, this text mentions both the Deluge and the destruction of Sodom. Secondly, in both examples it emphasizes the suddenness and unexpectedness of Christ’s coming.

Why the additional phrase not found in Matthew? Two possibilities…

  1. Matthew abbreviated Jesus’ speech and cut out the reference to Sodom because he considered it redundant, and thus Luke’s account reflects the fuller version of Jesus’ claim.
  2. Luke, under inspiration, took the speech from Matthew and added the reference to Sodom because it further emphasized the point of the Noah allusion. This suggests that Luke himself interpreted Matthew 24:37-42 as emphasizing the suddenness and unexpectedness of the flood, NOT the corruption of all flesh.

In either case, your interpretation fails to follow the text; mine, however, does.

Very well laid out KK, I see the main point on the ‘unexpectedness’… am also aware of the OTHER view that Jesus
would coming back ‘in spirit’ as opposed to his coming back ‘in person’…that Matt. 24:37 was the prophecy of The Destruction of the
Temple by the Romans in 70 AD…How can one be assured with absolute certainty he wasn’t talking about THAT, and not a still future event that has not yet occurred?

As far as the corruption of all flesh, I won’t say much about that again (to you) other than it’s happening again with certainty,
‘‘Spider Goats’’ is one small example…you know, because God forgot to make Goats mixed with a bit of Spider DNA so they can produce lots of silk via their Milk, so ‘‘man’’ must improve on our creator.
Personally I think this is not ‘innocent’, if genetics experts could be begin to tamper to mix species once again,
does that mean we SHOULD?
Not concerned much with this when it happens here and there…but when it’s done en masse in different ways, that’s when I believe it’s getting close…close to what? IDK exactly.

“…and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.”

Jasher 4:18

[quote]Karado wrote:
Very well laid out KK, I see the main point on the ‘unexpectedness’… am also aware of the OTHER view that Jesus
would coming back ‘in spirit’ as opposed to his coming back ‘in person’…that Matt. 24:37 was the prophecy of The Destruction of the
Temple by the Romans in 70 AD…How can one be assured with absolute certainty he wasn’t talking about THAT, and
not a still future event that has not occurred?
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The issues surrounding the temporal referent(s) of Jesus’ message in Matthew 24 cannot be addressed here; it would literally require an entire monograph to do it justice. Suffice it to say that, in my estimation, the most likely scenario is that MOST of Matthew 24 concerns the events of A.D. 70, but the reference to the coming of the Son of Man specifically denotes an event occurring at an unspecified date after Jerusalem’s fall.

The difficulty here, as in your previous post, is that you are assuming “corruption” (hebrew, shahat ) refers to things like “genetic alterations,” and that was simply not a potential meaning of shahat at the time any portion of the OT was composed. Rather, corruption is a cultic term denoting defilement, often in an ethical sense. That this is the appropriate meaning for shahat In Genesis 6 is evident from the poetic structure of Genesis 6:11, in which the second line builds off of and clarifies the meaning of the first line - "the earth became corrupt before God; the earth was filled with lawlessness." “Lawlessness” indicates sinful activity, and it stands in parallel with “corruption.” Consequently, shahat in Genesis 6 does not refer to the alteration of DNA.

You do realize that we have no copies of the ACTUAL Book of Jasher (really, the Book of the Upright, as that is what Jashar means in Hebrew) mentioned in the bible? The one you’re quoting is a very late text (like 17th-18th century A.D.); it was not written by ANY of the biblical authors. It has no legitimacy and is entirely useless for our purposes.

I’m still looking into the book of the upright and will give it the slight benefit of the doubt only
to a certain degree, because one would have to be one dense individual to look at the obvious
genetic sin mentioned in it and not connect it to present day…when technology has seemingly
‘caught up’ and ‘Man’ doing the exact same thing in 21st Century.

Don’t get me wrong…I’m NOT saying YOU are dense KK…Frankly I sense you are still somewhat
‘open minded’ just enough to at look at some of this info in a ‘‘Sherlock Holmes’’ type manner, have
your proverbial eyebrow raised just a tad, but still stay loyal to the tried and true 66 Books, and maybe
SOME Apocrypha if not for some historical value, study, etc. even though it’s technically not the official
‘‘Canon’’…I can respect that…And Don’t worry, I won’t touch on ‘‘The Gospel Of Thomas’’ with you and such,
don’t worry, I won’t cross that line lol.

IDK though, with the flood, I think it’s been overlooked and serious questions have to be asked,
because if it was JUST Man’s bad behavior, why doesn’t he destroy the World NOW??
We have been overdue for that practically since the ascension.
We have been “Bad” since the beginning…No…Sorry but, No… something ELSE must have been going on,
something unique, something abominable, something different in the Antedelluvian World to justify wiping
EVERYTHING out from existence…If it wasn’t DNA corruption, or that weak assed, long held “Lines Of Seth”,

Believers
marrying unbelievers theory…IDK…something else was going on, because we have ALWAYS been sinful KK,
something else was going on…Why not a deadly 24 hour ‘‘virus’’ sent down instead to kill mankind,
with Noah and his family supernaturally protected?

Why the massive, epic ‘‘reboot’’ of life on Earth if it wasn’t contaminated with Nephilim/continually evil Neandrathal
bloodline? What does it really mean when it says Noah was “perfect” in his ‘‘generations’’?..is that an allusion to an uncontaminated
bloodline and why he and his family were spared?

And in Catholic news: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/20/priest-pens-excoriating-open-letter-lambasting-pelosis-abortion-stance-giving-ultimatum-renounce-the-faith-or-comply/

Finally.