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[quote]smh23 wrote:

I do have a question for Romney supporters. What do you make of his threat to brand China a currency manipulator on his first day in office? It seems to me that symbolic, no-win chest-puffing is not an appropriate way to begin relations with an economic powerhouse on whom we rely for our own stability.[/quote]

I think what gets said in the media and what gets said to China are two different things.

I think China knows this.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

I do have a question for Romney supporters. What do you make of his threat to brand China a currency manipulator on his first day in office? It seems to me that symbolic, no-win chest-puffing is not an appropriate way to begin relations with an economic powerhouse on whom we rely for our own stability.[/quote]

I think what gets said in the media and what gets said to China are two different things.

I think China knows this.[/quote]

True, but big foreign policy problems have arisen from the arrogance and damaged egos of a few top dogs.

My own belief is that he wouldn’t do it. Every reasonable adviser–diplomatic rather than political adviser, mind you–will caution against it, and he is smart enough to listen.

But it’s still a stupid thing to say.

[quote]smh23 wrote:

And while you have a point about gas prices, it isn’t too much of a stretch to say that Bush was complicit in raising the price of oil in a way that most other presidents have not been. I’m referring to the Iraq war.[/quote]

And that is the kind of thinking that propelled the media to bash Bush which was totally unfair. And personally while it’s fun to blame Obama for higher gas prices I don’t think that a President, Bush, Obama or any of their predecessors have much to do with the price of gas. But when there is a republican President it suddenly becomes his fault. Just as a rising poverty rate is a republican Presidents fault but under Obama the media is silent.

I agree, but he is offering so much more that I like I don’t really care about that one thing.

With Romney you have a smart executive that will do the right thing. You also have someone who fully understands business and the economy. He really is who we need at this point in time. And quite frankly while I ow it’s not cool to like Romney and instead hate Obama, I actually do like Romney and think that he is the best man for the job among all who ran!

I feel that if America gives him a chance he will pull us out of this economic mess.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
I don’t understand why anyone other than those on the public dole would think that Obama deserves a second term, regardless of party. If you work and pay taxes why do you want Obama to be the President?

He has an economic record of disaster:

-The average income per family has fallen by $4,000

-Unemployment has been over 8% for 43 straight months (a record since the Great Depression.

-Debt has reached 16 trillion a hike of a full 4 trillion under Obama.

-Almost 45 million people on food stamps, which is another record.

If this guy were in charge of your finances would you give him the boot and hire Romney or give him another four years to drive you further down?

I mean…how much can he blame on his predecessor? Isn’t that why we hired him in the first place to bring us out of the mess we were in? Instead he made things worse.

Tell me how can anyone justify a vote for Obama?

I truly don’t get it.

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me either. I do not believe these polls that show him at whatever % approval rating. I just have to wonder who the hell are they polling?
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  1. He has befriended the many illegal aliens. And by doing this he has gained the trust of the large hispanic vote. This same group voted for Ronald Reagan, but they are now lost to the democrats.

  2. His sleaze machine jumped on Romney from the beginning and painted him as an evil rich guy. He’s a tax cheat, a liar and one ad even portrayed him as a murderer! And Romney was constrained by how much he could spend until after the nomination process. Thus enabling Obama to inaccurately portray him as someone who is out of touch with the needs of the typical American.

  3. That same sleaze machine created a ficticious republican “war on women”. I must say while many on the right were saying that it would never work, it worked and was brilliant! And because of that Obama leads Romney with women. Where this will end in November is anyone’s guess. But it is doubtful that Romney will win this group

  4. The single largest group that has been harmed by Obama, Black Americans, are the most loyal to Obama and for obvious reasons. They will vote for Obama by about 95%! Never mind that black unemployment is 16% they will stick with Obama.

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These are the keys in my opinion…or maybe I’m just a woman hating racist.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

And while you have a point about gas prices, it isn’t too much of a stretch to say that Bush was complicit in raising the price of oil in a way that most other presidents have not been. I’m referring to the Iraq war.[/quote]

And that is the kind of thinking that propelled the media to bash Bush which was totally unfair. And personally while it’s fun to blame Obama for higher gas prices I don’t think that a President, Bush, Obama or any of their predecessors have much to do with the price of gas. But when there is a republican President it suddenly becomes his fault. Just as a rising poverty rate is a republican Presidents fault but under Obama the media is silent.

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I don’t think that’s entirely fair. War in the region raises the price of gas, as do economic sanctions against Iran. The latter is a necessary and commendable endeavor, so I wouldn’t fault any president for indirectly raising the price of oil in trying to curb that lunatic regime.

The Iraq War is less excusable. In fact it was near pointless. And we all know that it affected the price of oil. So I’d say that Bush–while not exactly TO BLAME for high gas prices–had more of a hand in the matter than most presidents, at least most presidents who don’t start wars in oil-rich regions under false premises.

But we agree on one thing–it is a sad and telling sign that high gas prices tend to demonstrably diminish the popularity of a sitting president, despite the fact that he is almost never directly responsible and only very rarely responsible even in an indirect manner.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:
These are the keys in my opinion…or maybe I’m just a woman hating racist.
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Could be both.