Weird Things You Have Seen at the Gym

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’m not taking a position on the whole video-taping deal, but if you’re in public, there is no expectation of privacy, no right of privacy, and therefore no crime…unless you’re trying to film up a girl’s skirt for instance.[/quote]

I agree, there’s no expectation of privacy in public. However, that doesn’t excuse dickhead moves like inconspicuously videotaping someone for the sole purpose of anonymously ridiculing them on the Internet. Just because it isn’t against the law or anything like that doesn’t make it right.[/quote]

The moment you video tape it and add negative remarks or statements about that person, it becomes more than just a random video tape of the public. If it can be considered “defamation of character”, you can be sued for it.[/quote]

Weeeeeellllllll, I think it has to get really, really nasty before defamation of character, from a strictly legal standpoint, becomes the case. Don’t quote me, but I think defamation of character, in the eyes of the law, is very similar to slander and libel cases in that the plaintiff would have to prove that they’ve suffered some sort of monetary damage as a direct result of the “defamation”.

But I agree with your basic point and the legality of the whole thing is almost secondary, really. Like you mentioned earlier, I like Nards as well but I really can’t get behind some of the videotaping stuff. Is it funny? Sure as shit. But it kind of loses its humor when you consider how exactly it is that the videotape got on the Internet in the first place.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Trust me on this when I say the two biggest problems on this site are sycophants who side with certain members regardless of what they say (no further comment on that), or posters that collectively chase after others because of certain unwritten rules, yet not just leave trolls who pride themselves on staying where they are alone, but defend them through reams of bullshit.
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the cliques here are annoying.
the sycophants are annoying.
the men that grovel over vixens in SAMA to get a semi-nude pic are annoying.

what’s new?

pretty much mimics real life.[/quote]

annoying is an understatement, more like pathetic

also I don’t read anything DBCooper posts anymore because the dude takes 5 paragraphs to say what could be said in 1, plus I don’t think he even lifts weights

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Trust me on this when I say the two biggest problems on this site are sycophants who side with certain members regardless of what they say (no further comment on that), or posters that collectively chase after others because of certain unwritten rules, yet not just leave trolls who pride themselves on staying where they are alone, but defend them through reams of bullshit.
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the cliques here are annoying.
the sycophants are annoying.
the men that grovel over vixens in SAMA to get a semi-nude pic are annoying.

what’s new?

pretty much mimics real life.[/quote]

annoying is an understatement, more like pathetic

also I don’t read anything DBCooper posts anymore because the dude takes 5 paragraphs to say what could be said in 1, plus I don’t think he even lifts weights[/quote]

So you’re saying you’re not part of my “following”? I’m saddened. I don’t really think you lift weights either.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I’m not taking a position on the whole video-taping deal, but if you’re in public, there is no expectation of privacy, no right of privacy, and therefore no crime…unless you’re trying to film up a girl’s skirt for instance.[/quote]

I agree, there’s no expectation of privacy in public. However, that doesn’t excuse dickhead moves like inconspicuously videotaping someone for the sole purpose of anonymously ridiculing them on the Internet. Just because it isn’t against the law or anything like that doesn’t make it right.[/quote]

The moment you video tape it and add negative remarks or statements about that person, it becomes more than just a random video tape of the public. If it can be considered “defamation of character”, you can be sued for it.[/quote]

it depends on the remarks and context. the law permits you to be the butt of jokes. it’s called parody, humor, etc. saying look at this “nutbar” dancing on the treadmill is humor. posting someone’s picture and alleging that they are “crazy” is a different matter altogether. it’s a pretty specific, case by case analysis, including intent, context, etc.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Alex27 wrote:
How about sharing some of the things that scare you/make you cringe at the gym? Like when people slam the bar on their chest while benching (smashing their sternum one rep at a time)[/quote]

The scariest shit I’ve ever seen at the gym is some jerk coyly pulling his cellphone out and proceeding to film some other jerk performing what looked like about 90% of the lifter’s 1rm for squats on a BOSU ball, and then laughing about it and posting it on here instead of advising the guy that 1) it’s totally unsafe to do that and 2) it doesn’t actually increase your balance or really do anything for you at all that regular squats doesn’t, except put you in prime position to suffer a horrific compound fracture of your tibia.[/quote]

serious question:

do you actually believe anyone that would squat on a bosu ball be receptive to some random dude’s intervention? I mean, you don’t wake up one day and decide to squat on the bosu ball. that person obviously believes they ARE informed. feel me?[/quote]

Sure I feel you. I don’t approach these people and offer any words of advice, ever. Why? Because I don’t give a fuck if they fall off and snap their femur in half. I don’t care about ANY of the bizarre shit I see in gyms, and I see it every day. I don’t care about anything they do and I am more than aware that if I intervene and offer advice it will go unheeded and probably also illicit some sort of nasty reaction.

HOWEVER, I also don’t come on here and start threads or participate in threads that boil down to nothing more than people making fun of the stupid shit people do in the gym. If someone cares enough to post their opinion on this shit or if it bothers them, they should actually do something about it rather than just pointlessly make fun of them or surreptitiously videotape them and then post it all over the Internet. If they’re going to videotape them, maybe they should at least have the balls to go up to the person in question and say “Hey you dipshit. You look ridiculous doing triceps pressdowns with 10lbs while standing on that BOSU ball and I’m going to videotape it and post it on the Internet so me and about 150 other people can make fun of you. Carry on.”

I could at least respect that. If someone is going to be a complete dickhead about the workout habits of others, the least they could do is own up to it to the target of their derision’s face.[/quote]

I don’t disagree in spirit…I’m just not worked up about it like you obviously. I am firmly in the mind your own business camp in 99% of all social encounters. You will generally not hear from me unless you violate my air space or ask.

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Trust me on this when I say the two biggest problems on this site are sycophants who side with certain members regardless of what they say (no further comment on that), or posters that collectively chase after others because of certain unwritten rules, yet not just leave trolls who pride themselves on staying where they are alone, but defend them through reams of bullshit.
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the cliques here are annoying.
the sycophants are annoying.
the men that grovel over vixens in SAMA to get a semi-nude pic are annoying.

what’s new?

pretty much mimics real life.[/quote]

annoying is an understatement, more like pathetic

also I don’t read anything DBCooper posts anymore because the dude takes 5 paragraphs to say what could be said in 1, plus I don’t think he even lifts weights[/quote]

I’ve been guilty of being long winded in an effort toward clarity too.

One time I remember watching this kid do BARBELL bench press on a stability ball, I remember laughing at him trying to figure out some way to drop the weight after his set without hurting himself, as he lifted sans spotters.

One day, while chuckling to myself, the stability ball exploded…
I wish every day when I see that kids messed up collarbone, and the plethora of struggles that particular injury has caused him, that I would’ve just had the balls to say something to him instead of making fun of him…

Damn.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

Trust me on this when I say the two biggest problems on this site are sycophants who side with certain members regardless of what they say (no further comment on that), or posters that collectively chase after others because of certain unwritten rules, yet not just leave trolls who pride themselves on staying where they are alone, but defend them through reams of bullshit.
[/quote]

the cliques here are annoying.
the sycophants are annoying.
the men that grovel over vixens in SAMA to get a semi-nude pic are annoying.

what’s new?

pretty much mimics real life.[/quote]

annoying is an understatement, more like pathetic

also I don’t read anything DBCooper posts anymore because the dude takes 5 paragraphs to say what could be said in 1, plus I don’t think he even lifts weights[/quote]

I’ve been guilty of being long winded in an effort toward clarity too.[/quote]

Well, in all honesty, you do end up being clear. I admit, sometimes I just get carried away since I am a professional writer after all and once I get on a roll, about anything, I can’t stop. I’m perpetually locked into a death struggle with my editor about article length. AND my ego leads to some long posts in which they become overly drawn-out simply due to the fact that I like seeing my own words. When I talk I also like to hear the sound of my own voice.

But this sycophant business I just don’t get. I like you, I like Hallowed, I like Push despite our knock-down, drag-outs in PWI and I like some other people around here. But you know as well as anyone I’ll call someone out on some bullshit if I see it or if I think I see it.

Take your running arguments with Roguevampire. Personally, I think it’s unbecoming of you and I’ve made this clear multiple times. I’ve chided Hallowed for her lack of originality in her Hallowed V.2 thread, I think I’ve posted in the T-Vixen thread twice, ever, and even though I like Westcoast a lot I’ve ridiculed him for his obsessive love of Barry Bonds. I’ve certainly not made any friends in the MLB thread. I never go after Count, but that’s different. The guy cracks me up and I like the way he thinks and really, does he ever say anything so ridiculous, without being obviously tongue-in-cheek, that demands any sort of challenge from me or anyone else? No.

Fuck it. Who cares? This is all just meaningless drivel, really. Every single post in this thread, especially my pathetic running argument with this roybot character. Now overstand thinks I don’t even lift weights. I laugh at that. What, did I start a thread about my first strongman comp over in the Training forum to maintain my cover around here?

[quote]iVoodoo wrote:
One time I remember watching this kid do BARBELL bench press on a stability ball, I remember laughing at him trying to figure out some way to drop the weight after his set without hurting himself, as he lifted sans spotters.

One day, while chuckling to myself, the stability ball exploded…
I wish every day when I see that kids messed up collarbone, and the plethora of struggles that particular injury has caused him, that I would’ve just had the balls to say something to him instead of making fun of him…

Damn.[/quote]

Okay, that’s pretty fucking funny actually. Anything with one of infernal BOSU balls, especially combined with ANY use of a Smith machine, is just begging for injury. But like BodyGuard pointed out earlier, would the guy really have been that receptive to any constructive criticism or unsolicited advice?

I actually used to say something every now and then when I saw someone doing stupid shit, but not anymore. If they hurt themselves that’s their problem and while I would never wish injury upon anyone, some people you just can’t reach. The reality is that, in my experience anyways, if I were to approach everyone doing stupid, unsafe shit in the gym, I’d be there all day and after about two days of that shit I’d have my membership revoked. I pick and choose my battles and this one simply isn’t worth fighting.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

Take your running arguments with Roguevampire. Personally, I think it’s unbecoming of you and I’ve made this clear multiple times. [/quote]

Dude, I guaran-fuckin-tee you he’s a troll. If he’s not a troll, I agree the arguments are unbecoming. “He” is too dumb to be true. Fuck, I could make much better use of my time period - the whole participation here is bordering on unbecoming and definitely unproductive!

btw, swiss balls are not supposed to burst. not the kid’s fault. sue the gym. barbell might be pushing it but hell WSB was doing db presses on the stability ball not too long ago and so was i.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

Take your running arguments with Roguevampire. Personally, I think it’s unbecoming of you and I’ve made this clear multiple times. [/quote]

Dude, I guaran-fuckin-tee you he’s a troll. If he’s not a troll, I agree the arguments are unbecoming. “He” is too dumb to be true. Fuck, I could make much better use of my time period - the whole participation here is bordering on unbecoming and definitely unproductive![/quote]

Dude, OF COURSE he’s a troll. Either way, the arguments are ugly. But whatever. You’re right, this site is starting to degrade our intelligence levels. I mean, you can’t even parody the whole Accipiter/gay sexual assault thing and here I am stuck in some dead-end argument with roybot about some assumption he made about Nards’ mindset and opinion toward Filipinos who dance on a fucking TREADMILL! And then I engaged the poor motherfucker for three whole pages about it! We’re slipping BG, we’re slipping. From now on, I’m doing everyone a favor, myself included, and I’m going to stay out of as many threads as I can. I’ll just relegate myself to my advice thread and the MLB thread, which WestCoast has just summarily blocked me because of.

Ha, they were definitely NOT anti-burst swiss balls, the owner of my gym is kind a cheap motherfucker…
But ya, for that one nice kid I wish I would’ve said something to, there’s gotta be twenty more who I would never speak to, and wouldn’t regret not helping.

Little 120 pound fuckers in their cutoff shirts, muttering about abs and biceps, snickering at me squatting heavy, reassuring themselves with something about spinal load being bad for you, all the while bouncing a bench bar half a foot off their damn sternum…
They can go fuck themselves.

It’s just sad that they happen to make up the majority of people at my gym, making it a smarter decision for me to not try and help someone who could genuinely use it.

WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE SO GODDAMN CRANKY!!!

Good frakking lord stop being such grumps.

NO ONE LIKES A GRUMP!!!

LOL at being against “cliques” on this site…as if being “the guy against cliques” isn’t also now a clique as well. I swear I see just as many people around here making sure they point out that everyone else is “nutswinging” yet they seem to think this distinction puts them outside the drama…when it really puts them right in the middle.

The opposite of love is indifference…not caring so much about other people that you spend this much time in threads complaining about cliques.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOL at being against “cliques” on this site…as if being “the guy against cliques” isn’t also now a clique as well. I swear I see just as many people around here making sure they point out that everyone else is “nutswinging” yet they seem to think this distinction puts them outside the drama…when it really puts them right in the middle.

The opposite of love is indifference…not caring so much about other people that you spend this much time in threads complaining about cliques.
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Look at this asshole, acting like he’s not in a clique, when in reality he’s now part of “the guy who points out that the guy against cliques is now a clique” clique.

ALL I ask is that you guys who don’t like the videos I’ve captured call me an asshole, just please not a pervert.
I love T-Nation because you guys that don’t like the idea make that distinction that it may be “kind of” bad but you don’t go as far as some of the guys on youtube that post in all of my gym videos (there are about 20) and on my channel page that I’m a “fat ugly pussy fucker” etc. etc.

The oddest thing I’ve found is the people that are understandably against it ( I am taping people after all) but go on and try and make excuses for the stuff the people are doing. I don’t agree with that kind of attitude. A guy doing 2 inch ROM 30lb lat pulldowns is doing something no-good. Just because you think I’m an asshole doesn’t mean you have to think the guy in the video I made is actually right. That’s one thing that bugs me. And if a guy calls me fat and ugly…how does that change the fact that the guy in the video I made is sitting on the floor with the Smith machine’s bar on his back? And I’m not exactly sure how they know I’m fat…it’s true but I don’t have any videos where you can see me, except one where I’m trying to do one of them carnival games where you hit the thing with a sledgehammer and ring the bell, and that video has about 50 views.

And Professor X, I must mention that when I taped that woman on the treadmill, you can only see her face because she spins around like a bunny rabbit. I did not intentionally tape her face.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I seen a horse pay a guy for sex [/quote]

I must admit the weirdest feeling I got from this thread was making Ct Rockula write a thread without the words “anal/ buttrape/ sex /bloody /lubricant/ bitch” or any combination thereof.

It was like seeing my dad cry when my grandfather died. He was broken that day and I saw it.

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE SO GODDAMN CRANKY!!!

Good frakking lord stop being such grumps.

NO ONE LIKES A GRUMP!!!

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It’s “grumpy old man” disease next they will be talking about “kids these days” and their sciatica or the cost of stuff.

But it’s okay they’ll be in bed by 8pm.