We Can Rebuild It: How Would You Revamp T-Nation?

Oh, yeah-- forgot this… srry… kthxbye.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
LOL…reigning in the chaos

Staying on topic…

What does T-Nation do well?

I think T-Nation does the following extremely well:

  1. Free articles by the best trainers in the fitness industry…period.

  2. Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.

  3. The various forum topics are interesting and varied enough to suit others’ tastes.

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What Teaxasguy said.[/quote]
I’ve reincarnated.[/quote]

You’ll always be Texasguy to me.

Pucker up and swing your hat 'round!

Be who you were born to be!

[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
LOL…reigning in the chaos

Staying on topic…

What does T-Nation do well?

I think T-Nation does the following extremely well:

  1. Free articles by the best trainers in the fitness industry…period.

  2. Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.

  3. The various forum topics are interesting and varied enough to suit others’ tastes.

[/quote]

What Teaxasguy said.[/quote]
I’ve reincarnated.[/quote]

You’ll always be Texasguy to me.

Pucker up and swing your hat 'round!

Be who you were born to be![/quote]
I wore that hat on Saturday afternoon.

One thing that has never worked well for me on this site is the emailing about a thread being updated. If a bunch of people have posted in it, it’ll email me, and then when I go to the thread, it’ll email me again, whether or not anyone has posted since. The cycle continues, so I basically have to stop paying attention to the emails, because it just emails me right after I check the thread.

Anyone else notice this?

[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
One thing that has never worked well for me on this site is the emailing about a thread being updated. If a bunch of people have posted in it, it’ll email me, and then when I go to the thread, it’ll email me again, whether or not anyone has posted since. The cycle continues, so I basically have to stop paying attention to the emails, because it just emails me right after I check the thread.

Anyone else notice this?[/quote]
Go to options.

Turn off notifications.

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
the site ranks 3,207
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link?

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
2) Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.
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I can’t think of a better way to take useful conversation/information and make it completely unavailable to anyone not directly following the spill or trying to reference it later.[/quote]

Agreed. That is absolutely the worst thing they have ever done to this site. It is the one and only thing I truly dislike. Although I post ever so often in the Livespill after an article, I do not follow it as it’s impossibly annoying.

Quite frankly I am amazed that anyone can deal with it at all.

Yes, I am the OP…

@ So What?: Here’s the link: End of Service Notice

@ SteelyD and IamMarquaos: Thanks for the feedback…this will be put for improvements…right now, I am focusing on what T-Nation is doing right.

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
2) Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.
[/quote]

I can’t think of a better way to take useful conversation/information and make it completely unavailable to anyone not directly following the spill or trying to reference it later.[/quote]

Agreed. That is absolutely the worst thing they have ever done to this site. It is the one and only thing I truly dislike. Although I post ever so often in the Livespill after an article, I do not follow it as it’s impossibly annoying.

Quite frankly I am amazed that anyone can deal with it at all.[/quote]

This is an honest question: what exactly do you find confusing about the spill? I think it’s a really convenient way of communicating with the authors and administrators on this site.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
LOL…reigning in the chaos

Staying on topic…

What does T-Nation do well?

I think T-Nation does the following extremely well:

  1. Free articles by the best trainers in the fitness industry…period.

  2. Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.

  3. The various forum topics are interesting and varied enough to suit others’ tastes.

[/quote]

What Teaxasguy said.[/quote]
I’ve reincarnated.[/quote]

You’ll always be Texasguy to me.

Pucker up and swing your hat 'round!

Be who you were born to be![/quote]
I wore that hat on Saturday afternoon.[/quote]

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Gmoore17 wrote:
One thing that has never worked well for me on this site is the emailing about a thread being updated. If a bunch of people have posted in it, it’ll email me, and then when I go to the thread, it’ll email me again, whether or not anyone has posted since. The cycle continues, so I basically have to stop paying attention to the emails, because it just emails me right after I check the thread.

Anyone else notice this?[/quote]
Go to options.

Turn off notifications.[/quote]

Fair point, I’m just saying it’d be better if they worked correctly.

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
2) Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.
[/quote]

I can’t think of a better way to take useful conversation/information and make it completely unavailable to anyone not directly following the spill or trying to reference it later.[/quote]

Agreed. That is absolutely the worst thing they have ever done to this site. It is the one and only thing I truly dislike. Although I post ever so often in the Livespill after an article, I do not follow it as it’s impossibly annoying.

Quite frankly I am amazed that anyone can deal with it at all.[/quote]

This is an honest question: what exactly do you find confusing about the spill? I think it’s a really convenient way of communicating with the authors and administrators on this site.[/quote]

It’s a hot mess.

In a regular thread, like it used to be, everything is pieced out and easy to identify/read. It’s easier to sit through the bullshit. The livespills are too homogenized and it’s hard to tell who is actually worth paying attention to at first glance. Then, if you do see something, there’s no connection between posts. Here we have quotes, so you can clearly see the question and answer at once. In the spills, you’ll see:

bullshit
bullshit
question
bullshitbullshit
question
question
question
bullshit
answer to question 1
bullshit
question
question
answer to question 2
bullshit
question
part 2 of answer to question 2
bullshit
question
question
part 3 of answer to question 2
answer to question 3

And so on.

It’s incredibly hard to read through. If you see a good question, you have to find the answer. If you see an interesting answer, good luck finding the question.

It’s like twitter thunderdome.

White background… black is so 2002 in web design.

Removing the mandatory Biotest plug in every.damn.article.

Aside from that, love the site. Been on it since last July and I learn stuff on here all the time.

[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
2) Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.
[/quote]

I can’t think of a better way to take useful conversation/information and make it completely unavailable to anyone not directly following the spill or trying to reference it later.[/quote]

Agreed. That is absolutely the worst thing they have ever done to this site. It is the one and only thing I truly dislike. Although I post ever so often in the Livespill after an article, I do not follow it as it’s impossibly annoying.

Quite frankly I am amazed that anyone can deal with it at all.[/quote]

This is an honest question: what exactly do you find confusing about the spill? I think it’s a really convenient way of communicating with the authors and administrators on this site.[/quote]

It’s a hot mess.

In a regular thread, like it used to be, everything is pieced out and easy to identify/read. It’s easier to sit through the bullshit. The livespills are too homogenized and it’s hard to tell who is actually worth paying attention to at first glance. Then, if you do see something, there’s no connection between posts. Here we have quotes, so you can clearly see the question and answer at once. In the spills, you’ll see:

bullshit
bullshit
question
bullshitbullshit
question
question
question
bullshit
answer to question 1
bullshit
question
question
answer to question 2
bullshit
question
part 2 of answer to question 2
bullshit
question
question
part 3 of answer to question 2
answer to question 3

And so on.

It’s incredibly hard to read through. If you see a good question, you have to find the answer. If you see an interesting answer, good luck finding the question.

It’s like twitter thunderdome.
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I think it would work 9000x better if it was like Facebook. There was a “wall” where you could post a question, then the author would reply to it and it would all be in one single space, not twelve answers away from the original question. Just my two cents.

CS

[quote]Samir wrote:
White background… black is so 2002 in web design.

Removing the mandatory Biotest plug in every.damn.article.

Aside from that, love the site. Been on it since last July and I learn stuff on here all the time.[/quote]

No, keep the black background, I think its easier to read.

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]Samir wrote:
White background… black is so 2002 in web design.

Removing the mandatory Biotest plug in every.damn.article.

Aside from that, love the site. Been on it since last July and I learn stuff on here all the time.[/quote]

No, keep the black background, I think its easier to read. [/quote]

I like it, as well.

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Kairiki wrote:
2) Livespill is amazing as a communication tool on the site and I like how this allows the author and the reader a more personal touch.
[/quote]

I can’t think of a better way to take useful conversation/information and make it completely unavailable to anyone not directly following the spill or trying to reference it later.[/quote]

Agreed. That is absolutely the worst thing they have ever done to this site. It is the one and only thing I truly dislike. Although I post ever so often in the Livespill after an article, I do not follow it as it’s impossibly annoying.

Quite frankly I am amazed that anyone can deal with it at all.[/quote]

This is an honest question: what exactly do you find confusing about the spill? I think it’s a really convenient way of communicating with the authors and administrators on this site.[/quote]

Hey Ashy,

I realize that for some it might be great, I just don’t understand :slight_smile:
All kidding aside, I can echo the guys who answered you in the above posts.

It really is like a conversation between 50 people gone wrong.

Hey everybody
Hi, what’s up
Nothing, this is what I had for breakfast
that is awesome!
You are gonna Grow!!
BRAINCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Hey everybody
Hi, what’s up
Nothing, this is what I had for breakfast
that is awesome too!
You are gonna grow too!!
BRAINCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Question that’s useless and annoys CT :slight_smile:
Hey guys, I am in
Hi dude, are you sore?
Dude, you don’t even know! That ring work is amazing.
that is awesome!
You are gonna Grow!!
BRAINCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Etc
etc

Good question!!!

Hey everybody
Hi, what’s up
Nothing, this is what I had for lunch
that is healthy looking!
You are gonna lose fat!!
BRAINCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Hey everybody
Hi, what’s up
Nothing, this is what I had for breakfast
that is awesome!
You are gonna Grow!!
BRAINCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Hey everybody
Hi, what’s up
Nothing, this is what I had for dinner
that looks good!
You are gonna turn heads!!
BRAINCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Answer to good question :slight_smile:

Unless you are following it live (duh!) you cannot later go back and read/learn. Those who work and CANNOT mess around on the computer all day cannot go back at night and learn something from the spill. Not without wasting a tremendous amount of time.

We can not learn from CT anymore, at all. Takes me 15 minutes to figure out who the hell he is answering and what the question was :slight_smile:

Now, I am slightly exaggerating but after 5-10 minutes I am so annoyed I leave the spill.

Lol I do see what you’re saying. There are easy ways of navigating the spill, but I agree that it should be a bit easier to sift through so you don’t have to KNOW how to navigate through it. If I come home form a long day and just want to find something gold from CT, I scroll down and look for his name in gold. Better yet (and easy) do a “Control F” and type in his name, or anything else that you want to find in there. Pretty easy to do, but I agree, it could be better arranged.

I too wish the site were more like Facebook in that you could just reply to a comment and have easier access to it. But, I find it fine the way it is now.

Also, the forums are about as clogged as the spills are. Yeah, there is a lot of excess and unnecessary chatting in the spill, but it’s the exact same in the forums. Threads are constantly derailed, and good topics are wasted in the most ridiculous and childish internet arguments by people who seem to never get along. This is why I usually post in the BOI, my training log, a few other training logs, and not much else.

Also, before, anyone could ask the brass about stuff. Now you get the feeling that if you aren’t using Indigo-3G, you don’t matter. To more of an extent than ANACONDA or I,BODYBUILDER, anyway.

Not trying to sound butthurt or like that’s wrong (it’s not), because Indigo-3G is very expensive and involved and the people that use it need the support for it, but the livespills (and therefore most of T-Nation) are Indigo. CT, Shugart, and the rest of the gang don’t talk about anything relevant to me now.