[quote]Mousse wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Digity wrote:
I hate that cunt. He’s putting men in body bags…laugh it up America!
no he hasn’t our military is voluntary at this point.
Sure, if you consider the fact that the majority of soldiers come from poor and broken homes with no other way to support themselves voluntary. [/quote]
Prove it. I hear crap like this parroted all the time.
[quote]Mousse wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Mousse wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Mousse wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
lixy wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
lixy wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
So Bush started a war. Get over it already.
Tell that to the orphaned and maimed Iraqi kids.
If I see them, I will. Get over it, maimed kids! You’d rather they hop around and sulk for the rest of their lives?
I’d rather you stop alluding to wars of aggression (and their disastrous humanitarian consequences) as inevitable catastrophes.
It’s not that Bush started a war. Wars start all the time. This one was particularly condemnable because 1) it was a war of aggression and 2) Iraq is on the other side of the globe. Telling people to “get over it”, is an invitation to repeating the same mistakes (i.e: buying into FUD).
People should be learning from their mistakes. Not disregarding facts because they may be uncomfortable.
What I said was the mistakes will always be repeated; in fact, they are not mistakes at all. The mistake is thinking you have some right to not be subjected to other people’s ‘mistakes’.
You can’t condescend to the human race, you are the human race. Get over yourself. Fuck the maimed kids. It’s all inevitable and your opinion doesn’t matter. Neither does mine, and I would usually keep it to myself.
You really should…your not doing yourself any favors.
Why? Because you disagree?
Because you fail to make a valid argument with any supporting facts.
Having an opinion of It is the way it is and you can’t change anything so why bother bitching about it screams that you not only lack the necessary knowledge to form an educated opinion but that the political landscape to you is a place to bury your head in the sand and that you’re too lazy to read up on the facts and become informed.
Becoming ‘informed’ is unneccesary. The argument is larger than that, and greatly philosophical. Honestly, I find it difficult to lucidly explain my feelings on the matter, as the ideology of most people, yourself included, I assume, is so ridiculous to me that I cannot begin to fathom how it works in your mind.
Allow me to try to pontificate, and please realize my lack of interest in such matters has nothing to do with indolence or reluctance to read up.
If you would kindly humor me, why does one become involved in politics? Not by way of becoming a politician, but as we are here, generally interested and invested in the machinations and happenings of various people, countries, and situations?
What does one hope to gain through discussion? People seem to be set in their opinions, so they have no desire to be swayed or advance their knowledge and possibly change their ideas. These people, also, will not and have not affected the politics they are so very interested in, and likely know this futility.
So why become so absorbed? How is this so important if it is something you cannot even touch? Knowledge for knowledge’s sake is fine by me, but these politcally-minded people speak mostly in the realm of the practical, in that certain things would be better if this or this was done differently.
However, as their expertise will never be applied, where does the inclination to particiapte come from? Are they grasping at some illusion of importance? Trying to matter outside their insignificant existences?
I would really like to know how someone ‘involved’ feels about this, and excuse me if I seem hopelessly ignorant. I’m not adverse to learning about this, and knowing others’s views would help me to formulate my argument so as to be more ‘reader-friendly’.
Yes, I have hijacked the volley-babes thread. Apologies. Feel fdree to PM, if you wish.
I would PM you but I wanted to let you know publicly that this is a good post. Good points. Initially when I started reading it, I thought I smelled a little over the top articulation, what with pontificate and indolence. But in the end I believe I misunderstood your apathy which is pretty par for the course on the internet.
I won’t go into it here, but I am very much open to the opinions of others yet hold a similar opinion in that the majority like to hear themselves talk and continually spew their staunch beliefs with little or no desire to enlighten themselves - only others.
Much like your distaste for mixing chocolate and peanut butter, my wife is on the rag for what seems like forever now and I’ve become so focused on the negative that I may have gone over the edge a bit. Back to hot volleyball ass now - peace.[/quote]
Fine by me. I do tend to over-inlfate diction, especially when trying to be clear. It’s my only fault. Volley-bitches FTW!
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Well if you’re going to talk about beautiful beach volleyball players, then somebody should be talking about Michelle More and Suzanne Stonebarger. There’s a reason they’re called “Team Gorgeous.”
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I gotta see that ass on the left…can anyone find it somewhere?
[quote]905Patrick wrote:
I’m not even sure his behavior would be tolerated as the president of a fraternity chapter.
Married men shouldn’t be smacking other women’s asses or giving massages to german leaders.[/quote]
GWB ain’t shit, worst president ever.
Clinton would give two in the pink and one in the stink, SHOCKER!!!
History will expose the many failures of the Bush Administration.
Just give it time…
[quote]Mousse wrote:
Sure, if you consider the fact that the majority of soldiers come from poor and broken homes with no other way to support themselves voluntary.
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I’m so tired of hearing this from people who have never been in the military.
MOst of the military comes from the middle class. Most of my division on the ship I was on from the middle class, not “from poor and broken homes.” They were in the military for a wide variety of reasons. I’m sick of hearing this regurgitated crap from the main stream media, because they haven’t look at the demographics.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Mousse wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Digity wrote:
I hate that cunt. He’s putting men in body bags…laugh it up America!
no he hasn’t our military is voluntary at this point.
Sure, if you consider the fact that the majority of soldiers come from poor and broken homes with no other way to support themselves voluntary.
Actually the lower classes are the only segment of the population UNDER-represented in the military. The wealthy are equally represented, and the middle class are over-represented. Think before you speak.[/quote]
Show me. I’m speaking before they enlist. Besides, there is a very grey area between where the lower class ends and the middle class begins, maybe you could specify that as well.
I thought before I spoke what was a tongue and cheek remark to a friend of mine here on the boards. If you want to play this game please support your argument.
*edit - In the form of a PM please…nobody wants to read this shit in this thread anymore and I think they’ve made that clear.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
SteelyD wrote:
WTF… I thought this thread was going to be about hot-assed Beach Volleyball chicks.
You’ve got to understand that for some, Bush-hatred trumps even hot-assed beach volleyball chicks. That my friends, is truly sick and perverted.[/quote]
Bush hatred is nothing more than a projected mental illness.
Yes, the man’s approval ratings are justifiably in the toilet. Does this mean we need to put bumper stickers on our car, talk about it all the time, and blame all of our problems on him? What about 9/11, did Bush know?
It’s paranoia. Most Bush haters I’ve talked to are incredibly angry about something or another that’s going on in their life, they just choose to focus on Bush so they don’t have to deal with it.
For the record, I really, really like tall women in bikinis. However, I am a researcher/number cruncher by trade and hate generalizations and conjecture. That said, I did a quick search for some stats and found a 2007 study on the demographics of the US military. Here are the summary statistics.
In sum, the report found that recruits tend to come from midÂdle-class areas, with disproportionately fewer from low-income areas. Overall, the income disÂtribution of military enlistees is more similar to than different from the income distribution of the general population.
on average, 1999 recruits were more highly educated than the equivÂalent general population, more rural and less urban in origin, and of similar income status. There was no evidence of minority racial exploitation (by race or by race-weighted ZIP code areas). There was evidence of a Southern military tradition in that some states, notably in the South and West, provide a much higher proportion of enlisted troops by population.
The household income of recruits generally matches the income distribution of the American population. There are slightly higher proportions of recruits from the middle class and slightly lower proportions from low-income brackets. However, the proportion of high-income recruits rose to a disproportionately high level after the war on terÂrorism began, as did the proportion of highly eduÂcated enlistees.
I note that the above numbers are based on 2003 data and the demographics have changed since 9/11. However, the change for both education and income is positive. If you are so inclined, you can read more about it at the following link.
http://www.heritage.org/research/nationalsecurity/cda05-08.cfm
Someone please post more pics of scantily-clad volleyball players…
I am guessing that this is Ms. More.
Hopefully, the pic is now attached.
[quote]Mousse wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
Mousse wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Digity wrote:
I hate that cunt. He’s putting men in body bags…laugh it up America!
no he hasn’t our military is voluntary at this point.
Sure, if you consider the fact that the majority of soldiers come from poor and broken homes with no other way to support themselves voluntary.
Actually the lower classes are the only segment of the population UNDER-represented in the military. The wealthy are equally represented, and the middle class are over-represented. Think before you speak.
Show me. I’m speaking before they enlist. Besides, there is a very grey area between where the lower class ends and the middle class begins, maybe you could specify that as well.
I thought before I spoke what was a tongue and cheek remark to a friend of mine here on the boards. If you want to play this game please support your argument.
*edit - In the form of a PM please…nobody wants to read this shit in this thread anymore and I think they’ve made that clear.[/quote]
You ask for facts but have none to support any of your arguments. The fact is that poor people don’t generally go into the military. Uneducated people also tend not to go into the military as the average person in the military is more like to have graduated high school and college than the population outside the military. I’ll go and try to find the actual numbers if you insist on proving yourself wrong. But it is funny how you don’t insist on actual numbers unless someone contradicts your pre-conceived ideas.
suzanne stonebarger
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
So Bush started a war. Get over it already.
Tell that to the orphaned and maimed Iraqi kids.
The ones orphaned and maimed by Saddam or the ones orphaned and maimed by your favorite terrorists?
Edit: Let’s get back to the lesbos.[/quote]
terrorist and freedom fighter are nothing but words, if you’re on the side of the superpower you are considered a freedom fighter, otherwise you’re an “insurgent”
I don’t have any pics of Vball asses (although I really enjoyed those posted by others) but just a quick question. How long before you people blame Bush for the former USSR’s invasion of Georgia?
I’m surprised some of you haven’t made that argument yet…
FFS this thread is about females and their aesthetic qualities. What is wrong with you?!
[quote]djsoil wrote:
I don’t have any pics of Vball asses (although I really enjoyed those posted by others) but just a quick question. How long before you people blame Bush for the former USSR’s invasion of Georgia?
I’m surprised some of you haven’t made that argument yet…[/quote]
Nah, we aren’t blaming Bush. We’re just shaking our heads over the ridiculous irony of his statement on the invasion:
“Russia has invaded a sovereign state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people. Such an action is unacceptable in the 21st century.”
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
djsoil wrote:
I don’t have any pics of Vball asses (although I really enjoyed those posted by others) but just a quick question. How long before you people blame Bush for the former USSR’s invasion of Georgia?
I’m surprised some of you haven’t made that argument yet…
Nah, we aren’t blaming Bush. We’re just shaking our heads over the ridiculous irony of his statement on the invasion:
“Russia has invaded a sovereign state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people. Such an action is unacceptable in the 21st century.”
[/quote]
Who did we invade in this century that was democratically elected?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
djsoil wrote:
I don’t have any pics of Vball asses (although I really enjoyed those posted by others) but just a quick question. How long before you people blame Bush for the former USSR’s invasion of Georgia?
I’m surprised some of you haven’t made that argument yet…
Nah, we aren’t blaming Bush. We’re just shaking our heads over the ridiculous irony of his statement on the invasion:
“Russia has invaded a sovereign state and threatens a democratic government elected by its people. Such an action is unacceptable in the 21st century.”
Who did we invade in this century that was democratically elected?[/quote]
Saddam. Duh.
