Damn, yes they do!
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Do you seriously not think that the producers at Fox get together and plan out what the ‘message’ is?
They have a soundbite ‘playlist’ in the same way that comercial radio shows have a music playlist.[/quote]
Want me to start making you the tin foil hat now?
Why can’t you just be honest about what this video was, it was a neo-con on a morning entertainment show talking about something he had no idea about? Just be honest admit that this proves nothing about Fox news and lets move on.
Explain to me why Fox would have this guy say something bad about an investor in the company that anyone with the internet could have figured out. Explain this one to me or go sit down and put on your tin foil hat.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Stewart has 2 million viewers a night most of them high school/college kids and many of them view him as their main source of news (I have issues with that of course) then they get out into the world and realize that he does not know what he is talking about and they leave and start watching Fox because even tho they may be center-right they still provide facts and not 2 second soundbites.[/quote]
fixed it for you.
here is a video of him getting called out for his nonsense.
This last one is Red eye putting him in his place.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
he does have a level of credibility. Much moreso than someone like Beck.[/quote]
Really? because beck was bashing bush and he bashes Obama, Stewart Bashed Bush every night, but very rarely bashes Obama.
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[quote]SickAbs wrote:
Jon even rags on Blagojevich in the same episode! (He’s on the show, so face to face ragging him).
What do you conservative republican drones have to say about this?[/quote]
Who cares who invests with them, Fox has openly attacked the terrorists for a long long time, plus its only 7% so once again stewart is a dumbass.
*please tell me you are not stupid enough to get your news from the daily show.[/quote]
This is a pitiful post… How can you not see the irony in that news corps largest shareholder, and therefore a significant shareholder of fox, is directly giving money to the mosque?? This fact in contrast with their wild speculations and accusations on where the money is coming from make fox news a model of stupidity.
On a side note, Stewart is one of the smarter people involved in media/news on television. Just because he’s a comedian doesn’t mean his perspective is unbalanced or invalid. I watch his show for the commentary on the ridiculous farce of American politics and American media. I’m sorry to say this, but fox news is his biggest source of material…
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[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Good point, DD. Hard news only reports: who, what, when, and where.
.[/quote]
Who says? So if someone reports the news with a stern face, and someone else reports it with a little satire, but the same exact news…the latter person’s news is not credible? please…[/quote]
No, his view is not credible because he is an entertainer on a sarcastically fake news show, for the expressed purpose of comedy.
Like I said he purposely removes context from quotes and misleads people about events to make things funny. He is literally playing a character on his program.
Now, if he went on a serious news channel and honestly debated as himself, than may be different.[/quote]
If you would have read my posts thoroughly, you wouldve noticed that I mentioned stewarts been on multiple “Real” news shows (bill o’reilly multiple times). He bashes fox’s bs every night and glenn beck etc have NEVER tried to debate him.[/quote]
I bash CNN all the time and they haven’t debated me. Probably because I’m not a credible expert or journalist or leader of any kind, but that’s apparently besides the point.[/quote]
Youre also a nobody, posting on a website. Stewart has a major cable network comedy show.[/quote]
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Plus: he’s not a credible expert or journalist or leader of any kind
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Interesting point… However, as John makes it so painfully clear, being a journalist in American news gives you a 95% chance of being retarded.
Although fox news interviews credible experts and eminent political/social leaders, so does stewart. At least stewart appeals to reason or logic when he’s talking with someone who disagrees with him. Fox news analysts will often shout over their guests or belittle them.
Not surprisingly, fox news also conducts all of their own polling which makes all of their findings (such as how many americans support health care overhaul) uncredited, biased, and utterly useless.
[quote]John S. wrote:
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
he does have a level of credibility. Much moreso than someone like Beck.[/quote]
Really? because beck was bashing bush and he bashes Obama, Stewart Bashed Bush every night, but very rarely bashes Obama.[/quote]
do you know how to google?
http://www.independent.org/blog/index.php?p=6594
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=stewart+bashes+obama&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[quote]John S. wrote:
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
Stewart has 2 million viewers a night most of them high school/college kids and many of them view him as their main source of news (I have issues with that of course) then they get out into the world and realize that he does not know what he is talking about and they leave and start watching Fox because even tho they may be center-right they still provide facts and not 2 second soundbites.[/quote]
fixed it for you.
here is a video of him getting called out for his nonsense.
This last one is Red eye putting him in his place.[/quote]
Stewart is biased left, Fox is biased right, but I think Stewarts show is far more fair and balanced than anything ive seen on Fox (and Ive seen my share and hear the updated FOX talking points every time I call my grandmother). And that was pretty weak for ownage, stewart skewers these guys nightly for what they were accusing him of and does so with clips, not generalities.
I would be interested in seeing someone take Stewart to task on specific instances of taking things out of context, but man I wish O reilley would go back to ET. Did we really just hear him explain that generalizing is not going to hold true for 100% of a population? Beck, while he seems like an imbecile at first, actually surprises me from time to time with his content.
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Interesting point… However, as John makes it so painfully clear, being a journalist in American news gives you a 95% chance of being retarded.
Although fox news interviews credible experts and eminent political/social leaders, so does stewart. At least stewart appeals to reason or logic when he’s talking with someone who disagrees with him. Fox news analysts will often shout over their guests or belittle them.
Not surprisingly, fox news also conducts all of their own polling which makes all of their findings (such as how many americans support health care overhaul) uncredited, biased, and utterly useless. [/quote]
No no and no. Stewart does comedy interviews for entertainment. And his interviews are about as biased as possible. He will genuinely attack conservatives and goof around with libs. Generally when conservatives respond to his charges he goes into his, “oh, I’m just a comedian, lighten up defense.”
Everyone mentioned that Stewart has any credibility at all is an idiot. Period.
And fox does not only use their own numbers. They do a lot of their own polling, just like all news channels.
[quote]milktruck wrote:
Stewart… F…u…c…k…s… my grandmother. [/quote]
AHAHAHAAHAHHAAAA!!!
See I just pulled a Stewart. I deserve some credit as a real journalist now.
Pretty much all the clips on his show are out of context.
Oh, and O’riely has debated Stewart before. I think he pretty much owned him in the interview. Stewarts only defense was childish sarcastic comments. He wouldn’t get into a serious debate with him. Stewart is a comedic stooge. He’s funny sometimes. That’s about it.
Transcript:
BILL O’REILLY, HOST: The other night on your program, you criticized FOX News for bailing out of the president’s back-and-forth with the GOP. After we used an hour of it, an hour, all right, and bailed out for about 12 minutes because we had other stuff to do.
JON STEWART: Yeah.
O'REILLY: And you were offended, personally offended.
STEWART: I wasn't offended. I thought it was funny.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president at times being a little bit combative.
STEWART: We're going to cut away because this is against the narrative that we present.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
O'REILLY: But -- but, Stewart.
STEWART: Oh, my God.
O'REILLY: On election night.
STEWART: You have like Ali's reach. Do you see the arms on this guy?
O'REILLY: Oh, you have no idea.
STEWART: It's like dealing with Dikembe Mutombo, trying to argue. You're giving me one of these, no, no, no, no.
O'REILLY: On Massachusetts vote night, when we covered Coakley's speech in the entirety...
STEWART: Yes.
O'REILLY: ... when we covered the winner's speech in the entirety, Brown, OK, and the other CNN and MSNBC didn't cover Brown...
STEWART: I should have...
O'REILLY: ... you didn't say a word, did you?
STEWART: You're absolutely right.
O'REILLY: I rest my case.
STEWART: Your case is rested.
O'REILLY: Now, are you shocked? That a Democratic poll operation shows that FOX News is the most trusted news operation...
STEWART: No.
O'REILLY: In the country?
STEWART: No.
O'REILLY: Forty-nine percent of Americans trust us.
STEWART: No, I'm not shocked at that. Are you shocked that an Internet poll said I was the most trusted newscaster in America?
O'REILLY: Yes, but that was like Blinky did it. This was a big, big, big concern. And somebody told me off the record that you were one of the 49 percent. You believe FOX News is the most trusted news organization.
STEWART: I am. Here's what I believe. FOX News is the most passionate and sells the clearest narrative of any news organization, if that's how - are you still referring to it in that manner?
O'REILLY: Yes, it's a news organization. Right. That's how the poll referred to it.
STEWART: No, I'm sure it did.
O'REILLY: Nobody had any problem. Only you. Only you have a problem.
STEWART: I think FOX, in and of yourself, say you're not a news organization all day. Isn't it now your news -- what was it your news from 9 to 11, and then your opinion and then your news again from like 1 to 2:30?
O'REILLY: It's kind of like a newspaper. You've got news pages...
STEWART: Except on Jewish holidays and then you're not, and then on alternate parking days, you're news, but then Christmas you're not?
O'REILLY: OK. Think about the news pages, and then you open another page, and there is the opinion page. Clearly labeled, opinion page.
STEWART: Yes.
O'REILLY: You have no problem with that, right?
STEWART: First of all, newspapers are a passive piece of paper that you go to, and you know where the opinion thing is. Television doesn't function that way, and you know it.
O'REILLY: You don't think people know "The Factor" is an opinion show? You don't think they know that?
STEWART: It's not -- certainly not clearly labeled. I've looked at your promos. You're part of the fair and balanced part. You're part of the most trusted name in news.
O'REILLY: I am fair and balanced. But you don't think people know "The O'Reilly Factor" isn't an opinion show? That's like saying somebody watching your show, they don't know it's a comedy show. Come on, Stewart. Wise up, man. Everybody knows this. People watching in Pakistan, you know, they have little DirecTV. They say, O'Reilly is opinion show. They know. They know. They know you're a comic and they know I'm opinion guy.
STEWART: Why do they use this accent? Let me ask you a question. You truly believe that FOX News is just a nonpartisan, fair and balanced, trustworthy...
O'REILLY: Our hard news operation is, but of course, your -- OK, now you're casting aspersions.
STEWART: Yes, I am.
O'REILLY: Big word. Casting aspersions.
STEWART: I believe I am. That's right.
O'REILLY: People like Shepard Smith, people -- all of our White House people, (inaudible), they report fairly.
STEWART: Here's the brilliance -- here's the brilliance of FOX News. What you have been able to do, you and Dr. Ailes, have been able to mainstream conservative talk radio.
O'REILLY: Why wouldn't John McCain come on this program during the last campaign? Why did he dodge us and not come on if you - (inaudible), if we're in business to help the GOP, he wouldn't come in.
STEWART: But you're not in the business of John McCain. He is not GOP enough for you. You're in the business to help Sarah Palin.
O'REILLY: Dick Cheney -- Dick Cheney is to you Mr. Republican. Wouldn't come on the program, Stewart.
STEWART: Not Mr. Republican.
O'REILLY: Well, what?
STEWART: Well, because Dick Cheney, again, this atmosphere, there's a lot of light, which he's obviously allergic to.
O'REILLY: Stop. Come on.
STEWART: There's an opportunity to, like, brush past...
(CROSSTALK)
O'REILLY: I just gave you two examples that you can't refute with your propaganda outlook.
STEWART: But that doesn't mean anything.
O'REILLY: What do you mean?
STEWART: Let me explain what I mean.
O'REILLY: It's two concrete examples. John McCain running for president on the GOP side; Dick Cheney, Mr. GOP. Neither man would come in here because the questioning is too tough. So don't give me I'm a Republican shrill. That's bull.
STEWART: You -- like I say, you are the most reasonable -- have become the most reasonable voice on FOX, which quite frankly...
O'REILLY: Greta is the most reasonable, come on.
STEWART: But she's different. She's not as political. You are the most...
O'REILLY: She's on. She's not on the program, on the channel?
STEWART: Kind of.
O'REILLY: Yes. It's 10 p.m. to 11.
STEWART: Maybe she's kind of on it, but she's not really -- she's not the deal. No, let's go through this, because I think this is important.
O'REILLY: All right. Go ahead.
STEWART: You have become in some ways the voice of sanity here, which, as I said, is like being the thinnest kid...
O'REILLY: Cavuto sane?
STEWART: Being the thinnest kid at fat camp. So let's just get that straight. Here is what FOX has done through their cyclonic, perpetual...
O'REILLY: We're back to the cyclonic.
STEWART: Their cyclonic perpetual emotion machine that is a 24- hour a day, 7-day a week. They've taken reasonable concerns about this president and this economy and turned it into a full-fledged panic attack about the next coming of Chairman Mao. Explain to me why that is the narrative of your network?
O'REILLY: It's the narrative of a couple of guys, a Republican, Sean Hannity, and a guy, Glenn Beck, who's basically everyman. And he's basically...
(CROSSTALK)
STEWART: What do you mean he's everyman? What do you mean he's everyman?
O'REILLY: He's everyman. He sits on a bar stool.
STEWART: Every man has got a show? What are you talking about?
O'REILLY: He's talented.
STEWART: He's a very talented man. But where is everyman?
O'REILLY: It means that he doesn't shill for any party. He just spouts.
STEWART: What?
O'REILLY: He spouts what he believes. If you think that Beck shills for the Republican Party, you're out of your mind.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Interesting point… However, as John makes it so painfully clear, being a journalist in American news gives you a 95% chance of being retarded.
Although fox news interviews credible experts and eminent political/social leaders, so does stewart. At least stewart appeals to reason or logic when he’s talking with someone who disagrees with him. Fox news analysts will often shout over their guests or belittle them.
Not surprisingly, fox news also conducts all of their own polling which makes all of their findings (such as how many americans support health care overhaul) uncredited, biased, and utterly useless. [/quote]
No no and no. Stewart does comedy interviews for entertainment. And his interviews are about as biased as possible. He will genuinely attack conservatives and goof around with libs. Generally when conservatives respond to his charges he goes into his, “oh, I’m just a comedian, lighten up defense.”
Everyone mentioned that Stewart has any credibility at all is an idiot. Period.
And fox does not only use their own numbers. They do a lot of their own polling, just like all news channels.[/quote]
Bullshit. I will respectfully disagree, and so do these people. Perhaps you could write them all letters to tell them how stupid they are.
Dan Kennedy of The Boston Phoenix
â??Stewart needs to be more self-awareâ?¦ Sorry, Jon, but you can’t interview Bill Clinton, Richard Clarke, Bill O’Reilly, Bob Dole, etc., etc., and still say you’re just a comedian.â?? (not to mention several secretaries of the state including Colin Powell, senior advisors to the president, Jimmy carter, various other white house officials, FORMER AND CURRENT PRESIDENTS OF FOREIGN NATIONS, and many candidates for the presidency of the U.S.A. The list really does just go on and on.)
Eric Alterman for The Nation
â??Literally no one upheld the honor better of what remains of the media than did this â??fake news’ comedian. He is our leader. How pathetic is that?â??
Bill Moyers on the PBS show Now
â??You simply can’t understand American politics in the new millennium without â??The Daily Show.'â??
Hub Brown, chair of the communications department at Syracuse University’s S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications and an associate professor of broadcast journalism.
“There are days when I watch ‘The Daily Show,’ and I kind of chuckle. There are days when I laugh out loud. There are days when I stand up and point to the TV and say, ‘You’re damn right!’”
Your statements don’t mount to a hill of beans in the face of this. He is much more than just a comedian, he commands respect from former presidents, world leaders, and eminent American political figures. I doubt that you’ve ever sat through more than a single show.
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Interesting point… However, as John makes it so painfully clear, being a journalist in American news gives you a 95% chance of being retarded.
Although fox news interviews credible experts and eminent political/social leaders, so does stewart. At least stewart appeals to reason or logic when he’s talking with someone who disagrees with him. Fox news analysts will often shout over their guests or belittle them.
Not surprisingly, fox news also conducts all of their own polling which makes all of their findings (such as how many americans support health care overhaul) uncredited, biased, and utterly useless. [/quote]
No no and no. Stewart does comedy interviews for entertainment. And his interviews are about as biased as possible. He will genuinely attack conservatives and goof around with libs. Generally when conservatives respond to his charges he goes into his, “oh, I’m just a comedian, lighten up defense.”
Everyone mentioned that Stewart has any credibility at all is an idiot. Period.
And fox does not only use their own numbers. They do a lot of their own polling, just like all news channels.[/quote]
Bullshit. I will respectfully disagree, and so do these people. Perhaps you could write them all letters to tell them how stupid they are.
Dan Kennedy of The Boston Phoenix
Ã?¢??Stewart needs to be more self-awareÃ?¢?Ã?¦ Sorry, Jon, but you can’t interview Bill Clinton, Richard Clarke, Bill O’Reilly, Bob Dole, etc., etc., and still say you’re just a comedian.Ã?¢?? (not to mention several secretaries of the state including Colin Powell, senior advisors to the president, Jimmy carter, various other white house officials, FORMER AND CURRENT PRESIDENTS OF FOREIGN NATIONS, and many candidates for the presidency of the U.S.A. The list really does just go on and on.)
Eric Alterman for The Nation
Ã?¢??Literally no one upheld the honor better of what remains of the media than did this Ã?¢??fake news’ comedian. He is our leader. How pathetic is that?Ã?¢??
Bill Moyers on the PBS show Now
Ã?¢??You simply can’t understand American politics in the new millennium without Ã?¢??The Daily Show.'Ã?¢??
Hub Brown, chair of the communications department at Syracuse University’s S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications and an associate professor of broadcast journalism.
“There are days when I watch ‘The Daily Show,’ and I kind of chuckle. There are days when I laugh out loud. There are days when I stand up and point to the TV and say, ‘You’re damn right!’”
Your statements don’t mount to a hill of beans in the face of this. He is much more than just a comedian, he commands respect from former presidents, world leaders, and eminent American political figures. I doubt that you’ve ever sat through more than a single show.[/quote]
Used to watch his show all the time.
SNL has lots of high level politicians on all the time. They also use satire and very loose quotation to create comedy. They also do this in a way that is almost entirely biased left. They also can be useful to keep up with the popular trends of the day (including politics), in large part because they create public sentiment as much as they reflect it. For example, most people literally confused tina fey quotes with palin quotes to this day.
You are also as much an idiot if you get your “facts” and quotes from a comedy show like SNL.
Forgive me if I don’t buy the praise for a bunch of liberal elite media types commending the honesty of a satirical comedian for probably the sole reason that he bashes conservatives.
Read the transcript I posted. He’s barely qualified to be an adult, much less a competent truthful bearer of facts to the American people. I’d like to see factcheck start reviewing his show. I’d but the over under on “liar liar pants of fire” at about 20 per episode.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
Interesting point… However, as John makes it so painfully clear, being a journalist in American news gives you a 95% chance of being retarded.
Although fox news interviews credible experts and eminent political/social leaders, so does stewart. At least stewart appeals to reason or logic when he’s talking with someone who disagrees with him. Fox news analysts will often shout over their guests or belittle them.
Not surprisingly, fox news also conducts all of their own polling which makes all of their findings (such as how many americans support health care overhaul) uncredited, biased, and utterly useless. [/quote]
No no and no. Stewart does comedy interviews for entertainment. And his interviews are about as biased as possible. He will genuinely attack conservatives and goof around with libs. Generally when conservatives respond to his charges he goes into his, “oh, I’m just a comedian, lighten up defense.”
Everyone mentioned that Stewart has any credibility at all is an idiot. Period.
And fox does not only use their own numbers. They do a lot of their own polling, just like all news channels.[/quote]
Bullshit. I will respectfully disagree, and so do these people. Perhaps you could write them all letters to tell them how stupid they are.
Dan Kennedy of The Boston Phoenix
Ã??Ã?¢??Stewart needs to be more self-awareÃ??Ã?¢?Ã??Ã?¦ Sorry, Jon, but you can’t interview Bill Clinton, Richard Clarke, Bill O’Reilly, Bob Dole, etc., etc., and still say you’re just a comedian.Ã??Ã?¢?? (not to mention several secretaries of the state including Colin Powell, senior advisors to the president, Jimmy carter, various other white house officials, FORMER AND CURRENT PRESIDENTS OF FOREIGN NATIONS, and many candidates for the presidency of the U.S.A. The list really does just go on and on.)
Eric Alterman for The Nation
Ã??Ã?¢??Literally no one upheld the honor better of what remains of the media than did this Ã??Ã?¢??fake news’ comedian. He is our leader. How pathetic is that?Ã??Ã?¢??
Bill Moyers on the PBS show Now
Ã??Ã?¢??You simply can’t understand American politics in the new millennium without Ã??Ã?¢??The Daily Show.'Ã??Ã?¢??
Hub Brown, chair of the communications department at Syracuse University’s S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications and an associate professor of broadcast journalism.
“There are days when I watch ‘The Daily Show,’ and I kind of chuckle. There are days when I laugh out loud. There are days when I stand up and point to the TV and say, ‘You’re damn right!’”
Your statements don’t mount to a hill of beans in the face of this. He is much more than just a comedian, he commands respect from former presidents, world leaders, and eminent American political figures. I doubt that you’ve ever sat through more than a single show.[/quote]
Used to watch his show all the time.
SNL has lots of high level politicians on all the time. They also use satire and very loose quotation to create comedy. They also do this in a way that is almost entirely biased left. They also can be useful to keep up with the popular trends of the day (including politics), in large part because they create public sentiment as much as they reflect it. For example, most people literally confused tina fey quotes with palin quotes to this day.
You are also as much an idiot if you get your “facts” and quotes from a comedy show like SNL.
Forgive me if I don’t buy the praise for a bunch of liberal elite media types commending the honesty of a satirical comedian for probably the sole reason that he bashes conservatives.
Read the transcript I posted. He’s barely qualified to be an adult, much less a competent truthful bearer of facts to the American people. I’d like to see factcheck start reviewing his show. I’d but the over under on “liar liar pants of fire” at about 20 per episode.[/quote]
Yes, well this man doesn’t seem to think he JUST bashes conservatives
Back in April, when the debate over torture was roaring, Jon Stewart invited Cliff May, a national-security hawk and former spokesman for the Republican Party, to come on The Daily Show and defend waterboarding. May was hesitant. He thought Stewart would paint him as a crazy extremist. The audience would jeer. It would be a disaster. “I was apprehensive about going on, even though I’ve been on TV for a dozen years,” says May. “A lot of my friends told me: ‘Don’t do it. You’re meat going into the sausage factory.’”
Back in April, when the debate over torture was roaring, Jon Stewart invited Cliff May, a national-security hawk and former spokesman for the Republican Party, to come on The Daily Show and defend waterboarding. May was hesitant. He thought Stewart would paint him as a crazy extremist. The audience would jeer. It would be a disaster. “I was apprehensive about going on, even though I’ve been on TV for a dozen years,” says May. "A lot of my friends told me: 'Don’t do it. You’re meat going into the sausage factory.
But May had a change of heart after soliciting advice from his friend Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard. “Kristol told me: ‘You’ll be pleasantly surprised. He doesn’t take cheap shots. Jon is smart. You’ll do just fine.’” Kristol proved to be right. Stewart’s interview of May â?? a crackling, lengthy debate about where to draw the line between freedom and security â?? produced one of the most clarifying discussions about torture on television. “Literally, this is the best conversation I’ve had on this subject anywhere,” May told Stewart.
“There is genuine intellectual curiosity,” May told New York. “He’s a staunch liberal, but he’s a thoughtful liberal, and I respect that.” May isn’t the only conservative gushing about Stewart. While the movement professes a disdain for the “liberal media elite,” it has made an exception for the true-blue 46-year-old comedian. “He always gives you a chance to answer, which some people don’t do,” says John Bolton, President Bush’s ambassador to the United Nations and a Fox News contributor, who went on the show last month. “He’s got his perspective, but he’s been fair.” Says Bolton: “In general, a lot of the media, especially on the left, has lost interest in debate and analysis. It has been much more ad hominem. Stewart fundamentally wants to talk about the issues. That’s what I want to do.”
The daily show is not like SNL. Give me a break… When has SNL had a world leader such as the president of pakistan? When has SNL had a president like bill clinton on the show to talk about relevant issues? This is a joke dude. Jon is genuinely well liked by just about everyone with the exception of Fox News. Why? It seems that it’s because Fox’s agenda has become so absurdly biased that they have to undermine anyone that deviates from their ideology. That is all I need to say about that.
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
The daily show is not like SNL. Give me a break… When has SNL had a world leader such as the president of pakistan? When has SNL had a president like bill clinton on the show to talk about relevant issues? This is a joke dude. Jon is genuinely well liked by just about everyone with the exception of Fox News. Why? It seems that it’s because Fox’s agenda has become so absurdly biased that they have to undermine anyone that deviates from their ideology. That is all I need to say about that.[/quote]
SNL has had lots of world leaders on covering lots of pressing issues. And not everyone likes Stewart or thinks he treated them fairly.
And maybe the guys at fox hate him because Stewart is so openly biased against them.
Just working from recent memory, he bashed fox for their parent company contributing 1 million to republicans. He never mentioned that fox not only also contributes to dems, but that they are much more even handed in their donations that any other network all of whom are outrageously biased to DEMS. Overall networks donations go 88% to dems. Stewarts punch like, “FOX IS BIASED, LOOK AT THIS NUMBER WITH NO CONTEXT OR COMPARISON!!!”
Jon’s response to criticism from Bernie Goldberg on O’Riley? he gets a chorus to to sing a dazzling rendition of “go fuck yourselves”.
He recently had a liberal claim 100% of 9/11 victims families support the mosque. While Stewart did contradict him, he didn’t get the mockery a conservative would have.
Would you like me to run a search and start listing out all his BS?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
The daily show is not like SNL. Give me a break… When has SNL had a world leader such as the president of pakistan? When has SNL had a president like bill clinton on the show to talk about relevant issues? This is a joke dude. Jon is genuinely well liked by just about everyone with the exception of Fox News. Why? It seems that it’s because Fox’s agenda has become so absurdly biased that they have to undermine anyone that deviates from their ideology. That is all I need to say about that.[/quote]
SNL has had lots of world leaders on covering lots of pressing issues. And not everyone likes Stewart or thinks he treated them fairly.
And maybe the guys at fox hate him because Stewart is so openly biased against them.
Just working from recent memory, he bashed fox for their parent company contributing 1 million to republicans. He never mentioned that fox not only also contributes to dems, but that they are much more even handed in their donations that any other network all of whom are outrageously biased to DEMS. Overall networks donations go 88% to dems. Stewarts punch like, “FOX IS BIASED, LOOK AT THIS NUMBER WITH NO CONTEXT OR COMPARISON!!!”
Jon’s response to criticism from Bernie Goldberg on O’Riley? he gets a chorus to to sing a dazzling rendition of “go fuck yourselves”.
He recently had a liberal claim 100% of 9/11 victims families support the mosque. While Stewart did contradict him, he didn’t get the mockery a conservative would have.
Would you like me to run a search and start listing out all his BS?[/quote]
Your facts are not straight. Seriously.
He recently had Mayor Bloomberg–you know, the mayor of New York and not some random liberal-- come on and say that all the families of victims of 9/11 that he had talked to were in favor of the mosque. He also said that families of soldiers fighting the war on terror were in firm agreement of supporting the mosque owners rights.
The way you portray the Bernie Goldberg thing is also SEVERELY limited. After being berated by Jon, bernie and Fox co. belittled Jon as nothing more than a comedian. He said:
“if you want to be a social commentator, more than just a comedian and if you want to be a good one, you better find some guts because even though you criticize liberals as well as conservatives, congratulations on that, when you had Frank Rich on your show, who generalizes all the time about conservatives and Republicans being bigots, you didnâ??t ask him a single tough question. You gave him a lap dance. You practically had your tongue down his throat.”
Stewart replied:
“Not all of us have your guts Bernie. It takes a tough man to walk into Oâ??Reillyâ??s lionâ??s den to criticize liberal elites. And two, to say that comedians have to decide whether they are comedians or social commentatorsâ?¦uh, comedians do social commentary through comedy. Thatâ??s how its worked for thousands of years. I have not moved out of the comedianâ??s box into the news box. The news box is moving towards me.”
In short, Stewart ruined Bernie’s world. Bernie admitted he was wrong, admitted that Jon criticizes all parties, and was logically annihilated in Jon’s skit. Jon is far smarter than you are giving him credit for.
Again, I’m done with this.
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
The daily show is not like SNL. Give me a break… When has SNL had a world leader such as the president of pakistan? When has SNL had a president like bill clinton on the show to talk about relevant issues? This is a joke dude. Jon is genuinely well liked by just about everyone with the exception of Fox News. Why? It seems that it’s because Fox’s agenda has become so absurdly biased that they have to undermine anyone that deviates from their ideology. That is all I need to say about that.[/quote]
SNL has had lots of world leaders on covering lots of pressing issues. And not everyone likes Stewart or thinks he treated them fairly.
And maybe the guys at fox hate him because Stewart is so openly biased against them.
Just working from recent memory, he bashed fox for their parent company contributing 1 million to republicans. He never mentioned that fox not only also contributes to dems, but that they are much more even handed in their donations that any other network all of whom are outrageously biased to DEMS. Overall networks donations go 88% to dems. Stewarts punch like, “FOX IS BIASED, LOOK AT THIS NUMBER WITH NO CONTEXT OR COMPARISON!!!”
Jon’s response to criticism from Bernie Goldberg on O’Riley? he gets a chorus to to sing a dazzling rendition of “go fuck yourselves”.
He recently had a liberal claim 100% of 9/11 victims families support the mosque. While Stewart did contradict him, he didn’t get the mockery a conservative would have.
Would you like me to run a search and start listing out all his BS?[/quote]
Your facts are not straight. Seriously.
He recently had Mayor Bloomberg–you know, the mayor of New York and not some random liberal-- come on and say that all the families of victims of 9/11 that he had talked to were in favor of the mosque. He also said that families of soldiers fighting the war on terror were in firm agreement of supporting the mosque owners rights.
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The mayor’s actual quote:
“And the family members that I’ve talked to - and I’m chairman of the board of the World Trade Center Memorial - 100 percent in favor of saying, â??These people, if they want to build a mosque, can build a mosque. The lives of our loved ones were taken because the right to build a mosque or say what you want to say was so threatening to people.'”
Stewarts response:
“I think the difficulty always is, unfortunately, I’m sure there are veterans who fought over there who feel we shouldn’t,” Stewart said. “I’m sure there are family members, maybe you haven’t heard of them, who feel we shouldn’t.”
If it had been a conservative there would have been an entire sketch built around that claim mocking him. Never said a random liberal. What I did say was I was going from memory and I didn’t remember who specifically he was interviewing. But go ahead and run with that bone if it suits you.
Exactly, note how he never responded to the specific charges and once again hid behind the comedian shield whenever anyone criticizes him.
The aqusation:
“when you had Frank Rich on your show, who generalizes all the time about conservatives and Republicans being bigots, you didnâ??t ask him a single tough question. You gave him a lap dance. You practically had your tongue down his throat.”
The responce (essentially):
“oh I’m a comedian, you can’t criticize me like that.”
He always does that whenever anyone raises any serious criticism. He’s always a serious news commentator until he has to answer for his bias and shortcomings. Then he runs and hides claiming, “I’m a comedian”.
Next time there is a conservative on the show, watch for it. He generally does it at least once.
ONCE AGAIN, I never said a damn thing about him not being smart. Where do you get this shit?
However, his tone and act is always different when dealing with a conservative vs. a liberal. He purposely misquotes, takes things out of context, edits things to look a certain way, and on and on and on. If you are getting your information from that garbage, you are an idiot.
Okay, he likes to go after Beck. Good for him. why is it that we don’t see him starting fueds with keith olberman or chris mathews or one of the other liberal blow hards?
[quote]John S. wrote:
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
he does have a level of credibility. Much moreso than someone like Beck.[/quote]
Really? because beck was bashing bush and he bashes Obama, Stewart Bashed Bush every night, but very rarely bashes Obama.[/quote]
No because Beck is a total hypocrite and reverses his position based on the populist view in order to drive more revenue through Goldline whereas Stewart despite being a comedian (who I often disagree with) has more integrity.
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
he does have a level of credibility. Much moreso than someone like Beck.[/quote]
Really? because beck was bashing bush and he bashes Obama, Stewart Bashed Bush every night, but very rarely bashes Obama.[/quote]
No because Beck is a total hypocrite and reverses his position based on the populist view in order to drive more revenue through Goldline whereas Stewart despite being a comedian (who I often disagree with) has more integrity.[/quote]
could you provide some examples?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
The daily show is not like SNL. Give me a break… When has SNL had a world leader such as the president of pakistan? When has SNL had a president like bill clinton on the show to talk about relevant issues? This is a joke dude. Jon is genuinely well liked by just about everyone with the exception of Fox News. Why? It seems that it’s because Fox’s agenda has become so absurdly biased that they have to undermine anyone that deviates from their ideology. That is all I need to say about that.[/quote]
SNL has had lots of world leaders on covering lots of pressing issues. And not everyone likes Stewart or thinks he treated them fairly.
And maybe the guys at fox hate him because Stewart is so openly biased against them.
Just working from recent memory, he bashed fox for their parent company contributing 1 million to republicans. He never mentioned that fox not only also contributes to dems, but that they are much more even handed in their donations that any other network all of whom are outrageously biased to DEMS. Overall networks donations go 88% to dems. Stewarts punch like, “FOX IS BIASED, LOOK AT THIS NUMBER WITH NO CONTEXT OR COMPARISON!!!”
Jon’s response to criticism from Bernie Goldberg on O’Riley? he gets a chorus to to sing a dazzling rendition of “go fuck yourselves”.
He recently had a liberal claim 100% of 9/11 victims families support the mosque. While Stewart did contradict him, he didn’t get the mockery a conservative would have.
Would you like me to run a search and start listing out all his BS?[/quote]
Yes, please do.
His comment about the donation to the republican party was not that they should not do it, it was that they should not bash other news organisations for donating to the Dems THEN donate to the Republicans.
What he skewers Fox on is the hypocrisy, like a year ago talking about how great it was that there was a Mosque going up in Manhattan then this year changing the message to one of hatred.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
[quote]John S. wrote:
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
he does have a level of credibility. Much moreso than someone like Beck.[/quote]
Really? because beck was bashing bush and he bashes Obama, Stewart Bashed Bush every night, but very rarely bashes Obama.[/quote]
No because Beck is a total hypocrite and reverses his position based on the populist view in order to drive more revenue through Goldline whereas Stewart despite being a comedian (who I often disagree with) has more integrity.[/quote]
could you provide some examples?[/quote]
Sure, when I am at a PC that doesn’t have a block to youtube I will.