Was the Moon Landing a Hoax?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Intellectual property does not exist.[/quote]

Well, at the time of internet it is and should be evident. At the same time, you know it do exist. You may disagree, I do, but it is still a problem. Making anything worth anything is time consuming, eg. music. Lets say you make your own music, publish it with your own money, quite common, and you find your product freely available on the interwebz. Is that not stealing?

[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Intellectual property does not exist.

Well, at the time of internet it is and should be evident. At the same time, you know it do exist. You may disagree, I do, but it is still a problem. Making anything worth anything is time consuming, eg. music. Lets say you make your own music, publish it with your own money, quite common, and you find your product freely available on the interwebz. Is that not stealing?[/quote]

While I agree there would be many “artist” like Brittany Spears we would never have gotten to enjoy I also believe there would still be real artists that would do it for the love of it and would have no problem getting paid to perform or endorse their products.

I don’t care about the shoddy recording companies that would go out of business trying to feed us products like Brittany Spears.

And frankly, if an artist isn’t willing to starve for his work then I don’t want any part of it.

:->

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

People can go look through your posts themselves. I don’t go looking through post histories for shit like that. I got better ways to waste my time.[/quote]

You can’t even attempt to prove your accusation?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

While I agree there would be many “artist” like Brittany Spears we would never have gotten to enjoy I also believe there would still be real artists that would do it for the love of it and would have no problem getting paid to perform or endorse their products.

I don’t care about the shoddy recording companies that would go out of business trying to feed us products like Brittany Spears.

And frankly, if an artist isn’t willing to starve for his work then I don’t want any part of it.

:->[/quote]

I wouldn’t measure the level of artistry with the level of starvation and I wouldn’t interrogate artists for their willingness to do so :wink:

People buy Brittany’s records because they like it. It’s an expression of bad taste, it’s sad but there isn’t much one can do about that.

I was pissed off already when CDs came. They were supposed to fall really fast to the same price level as lp’s were. It took over ten years. Fuck you, recording companies.

I think the sufferers in the age of the internet are the lesser artists with a strong fanbase.

Researchers and space enthusiasts see helium-3 as the perfect fuel source.

Researchers and space enthusiasts seehelium 3 as the perfect fuel source: extremely potent, nonpolluting, withvirtually no radioactive by-product. Proponents claim its the fuel ofthe 21st century. The trouble is, hardly any of it is found on Earth.But there is plenty of it on the moon.

Society is straining to keep pace withenergy demands, expected to increase eightfold by 2050 as the world populationswells toward 12 billion. The moonjust may be the answer.

“Helium 3 fusion energy may be thekey to future space exploration and settlement,” said Gerald Kulcinski,Director of the Fusion Technology Institute (FTI) at the University ofWisconsin at Madison.

[quote]orion wrote:
Researchers and space enthusiasts see helium-3 as the perfect fuel source.

Researchers and space enthusiasts seehelium 3 as the perfect fuel source: extremely potent, nonpolluting, withvirtually no radioactive by-product. Proponents claim its the fuel ofthe 21st century. The trouble is, hardly any of it is found on Earth.But there is plenty of it on the moon.

Society is straining to keep pace withenergy demands, expected to increase eightfold by 2050 as the world populationswells toward 12 billion. The moonjust may be the answer.

“Helium 3 fusion energy may be thekey to future space exploration and settlement,” said Gerald Kulcinski,Director of the Fusion Technology Institute (FTI) at the University ofWisconsin at Madison.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/helium3_000630.html[/quote]

I read about this a while back. I don’t remember the details at the moment, but there was something about the transport, storage or processing of if that was a major hurdle.

Are you now a proponent of moon exploration all of a sudden?

[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
orion wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
<<< A bridge to nowhere is bad, but A GIANT BRIDGE TO NOWHERE is awesome.
<<< >>>
I for one do not feel like financing such adventures and I hope that the glory of empire will feed and clothe your family.

Again

<<< Because a brick layer in Wyoming needs to feed his family and not pay for abstract modernism at gunpoint. >>>

I will continue to believe that you are more intelligent than these simpleton snippets demonstrate.

Oh, I am every bit as intelligent as people who believe that they can construct societies, I am just humble enough to see that neither I nor they can. Barely, but still.

Well, and stealing is wrong, how clever to you have to be to see that? It was back then for a shining new bicycle, it would be now for a shining new car and if you do it to build a shining new spaceship, guess what, still stealing.

I take it for granted orion, that you have never downloaded anything, right? Are you for eternal patent rights and copyrights?[/quote]

Patents and copyright laws are a very tricky topic that you cannot handle in one paragraph.

I mainly download tv series and as far as I know that is neither illegal nor does it harm the US company producing them. In fact I own several DVDs just because I have downloaded the series first.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
Researchers and space enthusiasts see helium-3 as the perfect fuel source.

Researchers and space enthusiasts seehelium 3 as the perfect fuel source: extremely potent, nonpolluting, withvirtually no radioactive by-product. Proponents claim its the fuel ofthe 21st century. The trouble is, hardly any of it is found on Earth.But there is plenty of it on the moon.

Society is straining to keep pace withenergy demands, expected to increase eightfold by 2050 as the world populationswells toward 12 billion. The moonjust may be the answer.

“Helium 3 fusion energy may be thekey to future space exploration and settlement,” said Gerald Kulcinski,Director of the Fusion Technology Institute (FTI) at the University ofWisconsin at Madison.

I read about this a while back. I don’t remember the details at the moment, but there was something about the transport, storage or processing of if that was a major hurdle.

Are you now a proponent of moon exploration all of a sudden?[/quote]

You don�´t get it, do you.

If we had a fusion reactor right now able to use �³He it would make economic sense right now to fly to the moon and get the stuff.

We would need no stinkin gubamint!

And I bet that my privately built spaceships will kick your government Trabant rust buckets ass.

To the moon and back.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
orion wrote:

You have said much more than that on numerous occasions.

When and were?

Quotes please, my posting history is there for all to see.

People can go look through your posts themselves. I don’t go looking through post histories for shit like that. I got better ways to waste my time.[/quote]

Sure, slandering people without anything to back it up.

Relying on the laziness of your audience so that something will stick.

You know what, you belong into a newspaper.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
I’d be interested in what the “9/11” guys think…

Mufasa[/quote]

Oh Lord, it will be convoluted and stupid for sure.

[quote]OBoile wrote:
Didn’t the space program give us cool things like Satellite TV, GPS, improved weather forcasting etc. I’m sure there are many other less obvious benefits as well.[/quote]

The space program benefited society directly in multiple ways. Communications, materials science, medicine etc. You like granny’s artificial hip? GPS? Satellite radio?

It’s a whole lot more for us than social programs. I’d vote disbanding welfare and building more rockets any day.

Great news - Lifticus is building a “financial empire”.

Anyone know of a market where I can short the stock in this “financial empire”?

[quote]orion wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
Researchers and space enthusiasts see helium-3 as the perfect fuel source.

Researchers and space enthusiasts seehelium 3 as the perfect fuel source: extremely potent, nonpolluting, withvirtually no radioactive by-product. Proponents claim its the fuel ofthe 21st century. The trouble is, hardly any of it is found on Earth.But there is plenty of it on the moon.

Society is straining to keep pace withenergy demands, expected to increase eightfold by 2050 as the world populationswells toward 12 billion. The moonjust may be the answer.

“Helium 3 fusion energy may be thekey to future space exploration and settlement,” said Gerald Kulcinski,Director of the Fusion Technology Institute (FTI) at the University ofWisconsin at Madison.

I read about this a while back. I don’t remember the details at the moment, but there was something about the transport, storage or processing of if that was a major hurdle.

Are you now a proponent of moon exploration all of a sudden?

You don�?�´t get it, do you.

If we had a fusion reactor right now able to use �?�³He it would make economic sense right now to fly to the moon and get the stuff.

We would need no stinkin gubamint!

And I bet that my privately built spaceships will kick your government Trabant rust buckets ass.

To the moon and back.

[/quote]

What makes you think I would necessarily disagree with this? That said, NO industry, nevermind company could have funded an infant space program, especially with no indication that a marketable product existed beforehand.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Great news - Lifticus is building a “financial empire”.

Anyone know of a market where I can short the stock in this “financial empire”?[/quote]

When it does exist you will never know about it.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Great news - Lifticus is building a “financial empire”.

Anyone know of a market where I can short the stock in this “financial empire”?

When it does exist you will never know about it.[/quote]

You will be the only one

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Great news - Lifticus is building a “financial empire”.

Anyone know of a market where I can short the stock in this “financial empire”?

When it does exist you will never know about it.

You will be the only one[/quote]

touche!

[quote]kaaleppi wrote:

Not to diminish your point Lifticus, but “this country” (which is your country by the way, like it or not) do exist in the head of millions of americans[/quote] and so does God.[quote] and there is nothing abstract in it. It’s you who has the abstract interpretation. It’s totally valid, but it does not erase the common conception. Just like you can look at swarms of insects as a unity you can look at human collectives as a unity[/quote] of God[quote] <:)[/quote]

See what I did there?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Great news - Lifticus is building a “financial empire”.

Anyone know of a market where I can short the stock in this “financial empire”?

When it does exist you will never know about it.

You will be the only one

touche![/quote]

You’re a good sport.

This thread is full of fail…

You gotta respect a guy who will smack you in the mouth when you talk shit to him like that.