[quote]Oleena wrote:
Actually, now that i think about if, if Jesus existed nowdays he’d most definitely be classified as a schitzophrenic hippy anarchist. [/quote]
Again, really. The King of kings, the guy that condemned people, the guy who used a bull-whip, the judge, would be a schizophrenic hippie anarchist? If you knew anything about biblical types, you’d know Jesus would have a Davidic kingdom.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]byukid wrote:
I do not think Christ falls in our current political spectrum.[/quote]
I was taught he lived his life as an example , maybe they changed that today I am not a practicing Christian today , I do not know[/quote]
I believe he was, and that a lot of people are missing the point. I will say that I believe he mostly spoke to what we need to DO and less to what ideologies you subscribe.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Oleena wrote:
Jesus was clearly a hippy-terrorist-anarchist. He used some scary tactics on money collectors, that I don’t think the pacifist group would approve of :)[/quote]
Turn the other cheek and give to Cesar what is Cesar’s translates into terrorist-anarchist? The man ordained government himself, I doubt he was an anarchist, after all he is the King of Kings.[/quote]
To turn the other cheek was a gesture of defiance, and a very subversive one given the culture it was made in and to give Caesars what is Caesars was a very ambiguous answer to a question that was meant to entrap him.
I am more than willing to give any president any coins that have its picture on them, if only to demonstrate my acceptance that he indeed is a modern caesar.
Whether I would aquire lots of them is another matter and what to do if he vehemntly denies that he indeed is a reincarnataion of Caesar?
And yeah, it took Jesus to “ordain” governments. No one ever discovered the force of arms before him.
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Jesus being G-d, ordained Governments before Jesus became incarnate. Nice try though.[/quote]
Sources please.
Because I seem to remember quite clearly that he warned the Israelites repeteadly when they developed the idea that they simply must have a king.
I remember that he quite a lot to say about kings, and none were to positive.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]florelius wrote:
If he lived to today, I dont think he would be a democrat or a republican. He fits the pacifist-anarchist-socialist group in my wiew. I dont think he would vote for anybody invading and bombing other countries.
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I do not think Christ would be Republican , the Republicans are anti poor Christ was a Champion of the poor and sick
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agree that he would not be republican, but I would not say they are anti-poor people, they are just pro-rich people LOL.
Jesus also didn’t think tax collectors were humanity’s best either right? So that rules out the Dems too, leaving us with only one logical conclusion that he would be an independent or a green, probably green because he is also a sandal wearing hippie
Jesus was a hippie? Oh I forgot that the disciples and him cruised around in style…
I don’t see how you can say he was a hippie: No dope smoking, pretty sure he didn’t listen to greatful dead, no tie-dye, no woodstock ticket stub, etc.
So what makes him a hippie?
[quote]dk44 wrote:
Jesus was a hippie? Oh I forgot that the disciples and him cruised around in style…
I don’t see how you can say he was a hippie: No dope smoking, pretty sure he didn’t listen to greatful dead, no tie-dye, no woodstock ticket stub, etc.
So what makes him a hippie? [/quote]
hippie
[quote]dk44 wrote:
Jesus was a hippie? Oh I forgot that the disciples and him cruised around in style…
I don’t see how you can say he was a hippie: No dope smoking, pretty sure he didn’t listen to greatful dead, no tie-dye, no woodstock ticket stub, etc.
So what makes him a hippie? [/quote]
Jesus…discuss
oh i see, so then…
Crazy Hippie
Crazy Hippie(s)
Correct on both accounts DK
[quote]dk44 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I personally feel if Jesus were alive today he would approve of the almost %50 of the population (Democrats) and wonder why his people the Moral Majority would stand against his principles .
If you would add the percentage points of the Moral Majority to that of the Democrats you would surely break the majority
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Yeah Jesus seems like he would be a big fan of abortion.
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I agree, but I believe the Moral Majority could influence the Democrats the same way they influenced the Republicans
[quote]storey420 wrote:
Correct on both accounts DK[/quote]
HA, well know that we got that all squared away!
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:I don’t think Jesus would have approved of using force to provide charity to the poor.[/quote]You would be absolutely correct. What the Son of God came here to accomplish had/has nothing directly to do with politics. Everything Jesus said regarding social responsibility was addressed to those claiming His name. Not the secular society at large. For instance His admonishments about caring for the poor are to be fulfilled VOLUNTARILY by those inside the church. There is no call for government sponsored redistribution of resources anywhere in the New Testament.
HOWEVER, plain communism is taught for those within the church in the second chapter of the acts of the apostles. vv 44-47 [quote]44-And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; 45-and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. 46-Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart, 47-praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved. [/quote] This is a model for the church. NOT a command for pagan liberal politicians to steal from one group of unbelievers and give it to another group of unbelievers. There IS the command to give charitably to those in need in general in order to proclaim the gospel, but once again that is to be practiced voluntarily by the redeemed of the Lord in gratitude to Him and compassion on the lost which are 2 sides of the same coin.
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I think the problem lies in the fact the Moral Majority has inserted Christ so far into our political system that they can not deny the fact . I believe Religion should have no part of our politics but the fact remains , they do . So why can they embrace policy that is so anti Christ
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]dk44 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I personally feel if Jesus were alive today he would approve of the almost %50 of the population (Democrats) and wonder why his people the Moral Majority would stand against his principles .
If you would add the percentage points of the Moral Majority to that of the Democrats you would surely break the majority
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Yeah Jesus seems like he would be a big fan of abortion.
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I agree, but I believe the Moral Majority could influence the Democrats the same way they influenced the Republicans [/quote]
What? Influence shouldn’t play a part here. You either agree with something or you don’t right? The republicans didn’t influence me to believe abortion is bad, nor that big gov. is bad, nor that Pelosi/Reid/Obama are idiots. Not sure if that was your point and if so my bad.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:I don’t think Jesus would have approved of using force to provide charity to the poor.[/quote]You would be absolutely correct. What the Son of God came here to accomplish had/has nothing directly to do with politics. Everything Jesus said regarding social responsibility was addressed to those claiming His name. Not the secular society at large. For instance His admonishments about caring for the poor are to be fulfilled VOLUNTARILY by those inside the church. There is no call for government sponsored redistribution of resources anywhere in the New Testament.
HOWEVER, plain communism is taught for those within the church in the second chapter of the acts of the apostles. vv 44-47 [quote]44-And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; 45-and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. 46-Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart, 47-praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved. [/quote] This is a model for the church. NOT a command for pagan liberal politicians to steal from one group of unbelievers and give it to another group of unbelievers. There IS the command to give charitably to those in need in general in order to proclaim the gospel, but once again that is to be practiced voluntarily by the redeemed of the Lord in gratitude to Him and compassion on the lost which are 2 sides of the same coin.
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I think the problem lies in the fact the Moral Majority has inserted Christ so far into our political system that they can not deny the fact . I believe Religion should have no part of our politics but the fact remains , they do . So why can they embrace policy that is so anti Christ[/quote]
How do you really expect religion to not play a part. Religion guides some peoples values and beliefs. Just like you get your values and beliefs from somewhere, probably idiots :), so how would you expect it not to come into play?
If Jesus came back today, I’m pretty sure some nut job Christian would shoot him for blasphemy.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
If Jesus came back today, I’m pretty sure some nut job Christian would shoot him for blasphemy.[/quote]
If Jesus were to be born today, I’m sure some of Mary’s liberal friends would try to talk her into getting an abortion.
[quote]koffea wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Jesus didn’t do it on someone else’s dime.[/quote]
i cant believe this thread continued past this post.
jesus never advocated stealing from the rich to give to the poor. this is essentially what democrats advocate.
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So this is the Republicans justification of un Christ like policies , because they are protecting the wealthy from the poor ?
I think taxes were mentioned in the Bible "Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar’s "