Warrior Diet Log

Hey Everyone,

My first time posting on this site, though I’ve been lurking for a while; absorbing information and learning.

I’ve been intrigued with the WD for a couple of years now. Tried it on and off a few times and always had success with it. Sure, if you’re looking for maximum size you’d better try something else, but there’s no reason why you’d lose any strength on this diet.

Indeed, I continued to add weight to all of my lifts while I was doing it. But I certainly wasn’t getting any bigger.

That being said, I never read the book or anything. But there’s boatloads of information and lots of people out there experimenting with intermittent fasting, and the evidence is looking pretty solid that it’s just plain healthy to practice it every once in a while. Pseudo-science and claims of “cleansing” aside, IF, just like chronic caloric restriction, does indeed slow down the metabolism and has been shown to increase the lifespan of worms, mice, and dogs. They’re still studying monkeys but it looks to hold true for them as well.

My recent experience on it showed that your body does indeed adapt to the diet you’re giving it, just like exercise. My fat loss stopped after about a month. I had to switch to the Anabolic Diet just a week ago to get the fat burning again. But I think I’ll always throw in a Warrior day every now and again just to keep my body guessing.

[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
People practicing Ramadan eat in precisely the fashion described in the Warrior Diet.

I’ve no empirical observation on the matter, but the reports from the Muslims I hear on this matter (who don’t watch their macronutrients as carefully as the OP presumably does or Hofmekler certainly does) is that it’s not healthy, strictly religious and they end up gaining fat.[/quote]

This is true Mr. C & J. I am Muslim, and practice Ramadan every year. The only difference is that during Ramadan, nothing goes in your mouth the whole day, from sunrise to sunset. No water, no gum, no snacking during the day, no nothing. Then, in the evening, you eat everything in sight, and sit around (I go for evening prayers, which are full body motions), so I’m able to not gain too much weight.

But in years past, I have gained weight and fat (some years, 10 pounds gained in 30 days), because of limited exercise in the evening from being hungry and worn out all day. But above all, the purpose is rememberance of the poor, so that’s what matters.

[quote]Mr. Clean & Jerk wrote:
People practicing Ramadan eat in precisely the fashion described in the Warrior Diet.

I’ve no empirical observation on the matter, but the reports from the Muslims I hear on this matter (who don’t watch their macronutrients as carefully as the OP presumably does or Hofmekler certainly does) is that it’s not healthy, strictly religious and they end up gaining fat.
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Actually this is partially true.

I am a Muslim and have been practising Ramamdan since I was 6 years old. Im now 30.

As T-money alluded to, yes we don’t put a thing in our mouths from sunrise to sunset. Not even water. Is it unhealthy? Absolutely not! The constant repetitive style of eating and living we accustom ourselves to in society today leads us to believe anything that is not the norm is therefore improper or in this case unhealthy.

The body is far more resilient than we give it credit for. A fast for a day and only the hours of daylight is nothing! But when your carnal “self” has been tuned into eating so much and getting it when you want it becomes a mental and spiritual battle more than a physiological one. Many people break and cannot go through with it. That is not the point though, my point is that when Muslims fast, they are like anyone else these days and are merely physically fasting, when Ramadan is meant to be so much more.
So all they end up doing is starving themselves. This is their mentality too and they end up over-satisfying that carnal self with copious amounts of food, in the wrong order and in the wrong proportions. In total glutonous greed they continue well into the night. At the end, they crash out and fall asleep with these massive insulin overdoses and huge amounts of food in their guts. They then wake up prior to sunrise in fear of missing out that last bite before sunrise and gorge. They then go back to sleep and wake up all headachey and miserable and go through the same procedure again and again.

It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that this is a disasterous way of living and defeats the whole purpose of Ramadan. Ramadan being a month of spiritual, mental and physical cleansing. The scholars and philosophers, sages and wise men of the past have all commented on limiting the physical to enhance the spiritual. Unfortunately people who practise Ramadan in this method have been led by their own greediness, not by Ramadans traditions.

Traditionally, after a long day of fasting Muslims usually break their fast on a few dates and some milk or water.

Obviously the Dates, being high in sugar help prime up the systems for food. A little water or milk helps tenderise the stomach acids.

What they usually do is then pray the sunset prayer. This takes in total 10-15 minutes.

Then the sit to eat.

Traditionally they break their fast by having some light soup. This gets the stomach acids working even more. Some from the subcontinent prefer fruits and that is equally as meritable with the enzymes and sugars priming the systems for nutrient delivery and uptake. But at this level, it doesn’t really matter. After a day of complete fasting, the Warrior diet principles don’t even matter as much because fat uptake is going to be very limited because of the “dry sponge” type environment that has been created in the body.

So they usually follow up the soup with some solid food such as a chicken dish, meat dish and so on. Salads are always eaten as well.

Traditionally they didn’t gorge but only ate enough to satiate that gap in the stomach that was there all day. The stomach after being “shrunken” all day can’t handle a gorge out anyway. But the main reason why they don’t eat that much (and I am still speaking traditionally here) is that they have to attend evening prayers which may go from an hour to two hours every night.

If you have a huge meal, you’re really overly bloated and can’t perform the movements comfortably and you also begin to feel the effects of excessive insulin release and in turn the seratonin which sends you off to lala land, very sleepy.

So they will limit their food traditionally, not gorge as they do today eating everything in sight and then some.

When they get home, they usually have some fruits etc.

Today it has become nothing more than an excuse to pig out!

That is not how it was done traditionally and that is why Muslims never put on weight during Ramadan but rather became even healthier and shed the extra one or two hanging around pounds.

Till today in remote bedouin areas, Ori is correct, these men are lean and like rocks! Real wiry strength type people and they still fast on a regular basis, the tradition being every monday and thursday.

So it is not correct that it is unhealthy. Scientists have looked at it before and proven that it is a much needed break for the digestive system, adrenal system and other organs not to mention the spiritual and mental well being of a person.

It is also teaching your body to do without at certain times. In this world of over indulgence I think it is a perfect remedy and reminder to us all.

Very well put humble, in terms of health and religion. Ramadan is the best time of the year.

Salams T Money :slight_smile:

The other interesting thing is, over the last two years, when Ramadan came around I had fights about a week after. So I’d have to train through Ramadan. I would fast all day and then show up to training in a fasted state. It was rough on me for the first few days to a week until my body adjusted but then I would amazingly have this burst of energy and mental clarity during training. During training I still hadn’t broken my fast but half way through it would be time so I could ingest some water and an electrolyte at the very least.

I ate very clean, despite fasting, the way I usually eat anyway. When I have a fight I don’t change my diet.

But what I noticed is that come fight time, my fitness, endurance, strength, mental clarity and focus was much better than previously. The first time this occured I knocked the guy out cold with a perfectly timed kick to the head. I just felt “alive” with electricity running through my body when I fought.

The next year the exact same thing happened.

I put that down to the body being in it’s optimum state. Enzymatic and cellular activity as well as CNS activity tuned in to the max.

[quote]humble wrote:
Salams T Money :slight_smile:

The other interesting thing is, over the last two years, when Ramadan came around I had fights about a week after. So I’d have to train through Ramadan. I would fast all day and then show up to training in a fasted state. It was rough on me for the first few days to a week until my body adjusted but then I would amazingly have this burst of energy and mental clarity during training. During training I still hadn’t broken my fast but half way through it would be time so I could ingest some water and an electrolyte at the very least.

I ate very clean, despite fasting, the way I usually eat anyway. When I have a fight I don’t change my diet.

But what I noticed is that come fight time, my fitness, endurance, strength, mental clarity and focus was much better than previously. The first time this occured I knocked the guy out cold with a perfectly timed kick to the head. I just felt “alive” with electricity running through my body when I fought.

The next year the exact same thing happened.

I put that down to the body being in it’s optimum state. Enzymatic and cellular activity as well as CNS activity tuned in to the max.

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Walaikum Assalam brother humble.

Glad to hear about your fights in a truly fasted state. That’s impressive. Again, more reasons why Ramadan is the best time of the year.

I don’t fight or compete in any type of training, but last year, I had a highly physical job, lifting heavy things all day. The first few days were tough, but after that, you don’t even think about food. The same thing happened to me, the later the day went on, the more energy and strength I had, and I felt I was working better. I agree that the body is in its optimum state at this point, and can perform at its best. Knocked him out cold? Man, that’s sweet.

Take care brother in Islam. Salaam.