Ok Tab…Both Grandfathers were in real wars…call me when your in one.
why doesnt the original post mention the enemy soldiers killed? or the civilians?
I’d like to see you go there and say it wasn’t a real war, you ignorant prick. I would love to see you living out of a shitty foxhole you dug yourself and all the while praying that those damn Iraqis haven’t done their homework as far as zeroing in their artillery. You would piss yourself, you little fuckstain. Then I would want you to say that you truly weren’t at war. Oh, you say that your grandfathers were at war?? Why don’t you say to them what you said to me. Go ahead, tell them. Better yet, tell another Ranger what you told me in your last post, and you’ll be in a world of shit. Also, what do you consider a war? As you may not know, the face of war is constantly changing. Back in the day, troops used to line up and just take turns shooting at each other. For you to make a statement like that I was never at war is just flat-out ignorance. Many people were killed and are going to be killed. This is by far the most difficult war in history (the war on terrorism). We can’t just beat them militarily like we did in WWII. You also said that we were never attacked by Iraq. What the fuck do you think this war was fought for you little shit? To prevent assholes like him from giving terrorists the necessary tools to inflict damage on us. Do me a favor, the next time you see a veteran or someone currently serving in the military, tell them what you feel about them. Tell them what you said to me over this forum, and see what happens. You probably won’t cuz you ain’t got the balls; your only a tough guy over the internet.
-When in doubt, flip it to burst.
Fuck you Il Cazzo!!! Like I said before I may or may not agree with the Iraqi war, but one thing is for certain, IT IS THE REAL DEAL! Do you have the GUEVOS or the COJONES that ranger has? You stupid little fuck, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Like ranger told you, go ahead and tell a vet what you’re saying on this forum, if you were in another place they would’ve cut your little balls (if you have any) and shoved them down your throat, you stupid little piece of shit. Please do yourself a favor, stop insulting yourself by showing all the ignorance that’s inside you’re head!
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE…MARICON!!!
Avoids and Moisture what I find
very trouble about your thinking
is how one sided it is.
You justify everything Bush
has done and villify everything
any democrat has done.
You seem to have no ability
to look at anything objectively.
Your way of thinking is very reminiscent
of Taliban or extremist Islamic groups
where everyone else is wrong and you
are the only right one.
Also Moisture you are the one who always
implies that if someone was face to face
with you they wouldn’t say anything
disrespectfull to you. You attempt to
intimidate albeit in a low-key way.
I also think that if John Kerry or Bill
Clinton were hard core right wingers and
Bush was democrat you would justify anything John or Bill did, and villify
Bush.
I am a veteran and I think the current administration manipulated the truth and
outright lied to the american people and NO I am not going to supply data to show you Moisture anybody can pull up anything
to back their opinion up.
Bill Clinton was not a perfect man
and neither is Bush.
We all may disagree on some issues, but I think we can all come together and agree that Il Cazzo is a disgusting piece of shit.
Elkhntr1 -
Good point, what you say is very true. Anyone CAN back their opinion up with all the info going around. But can you think of one reason why this war was not a just one? Besides the oil, or WMD argument, I’d like to hear something original. I don’t believe Bush lied to the Americans. Hell, those Iraqis could have hid their WMD’s anywhere in the damn desert. But why did they boot the inspectors out of their country if they had nothing to hide? Obviously there was something going on.
Moisture, you were mighty quick to stoop to name-calling, it shows your level of maturity.
Will I ever apologize if WMD were to be found? No, WMD is not a good enough reason to send people to their deaths, if so the world would be justified in attacking and invading us, the largest holder of WMD.
Leftist looney? That’s hilarious, do you even know what Libertarians stand for? I didn’t think so, you are an ill-informed braying jackass with a computer.
Elkhntr1 -
Why is it that only conservatives need to be objective?
Yes - I support Bush. I voted for him. I think he’s doing a helluva job, and I will support him - most especially when we have our own soldiers in harm’s way.
Slamming the President during wartime is not patriotic - it’s cowardice. No one wants a war - not even Bush (that has to be a hard pill for all the conspiracy theorists to swallow).
I don’t have to be ‘objective’ about supporting the Commander in Chief. I voted for him and I will support him.
Rainjack - So voicing an opinion that differs from yours or another man’s, who happens to be the president, is unpatriotic and cowardly? I thought we were all entitled to have our own opinions and had the free speech to voice them?
This country will right itself, and fool-hardy wars will be atoned for, despite the haters of freedom here in our own country.
Big Dave -
If this were Clinton that had started this war I would be saying the same thing that I am saying now - to slam the President in a time of war is cowardice.
I’m sick of all the assholes that wrap themselves up in the flag and call themselves a ‘patriot’ because they have the ‘courage’ to run their mouths off. You have the right to say whatever you want - that does not make you patriotic. How many of these pukes on this message board are willing to die in defense of their rhetoric?
A couple of months before the whole “saddam is evil” thing started in your country saddam said that he would stop selling oil to the US if you did not stop supporting Israel. I know that he had a trade embargo on his ass, but he was selling it throu another country.
Somewhere around this time bush asked “whatever its called” if he could drill oil in that province(?) in the north that u got from Russia. Alaska?
Seriously, this war is about oil. I’m not saying it’s any more wrong then any other war. And yes, he was/is a evil bastard and it’s good that he is gone. Next, go after mogabe(sp?) in Africa plz… He is taking away democracy from his own country.
I don’t know if you know this, but it was the US that put Saddam to power. You supported his “party” or whatever, brought them to power, the leader soon died of old age and Saddam was nr2.
There is alot of hate in the middle east towards the US and often the west in general. This is probably becaurse you have been involved in every conflict over there and “taken their oil”.
sorry for the long post.
I’m pretty sure we’ve bought their oil, not taken it.
This is like the twighlight zone or something.
I’m expecting the world to just split in two very soon. How can people of the same intelligence level veiw things so differently? This boggles my mind.
IL Cazzo? WTF? That was the un-coolest thing I think I have ever heard. I second that t-mag ban your ass. There is no room in our community for straight up bad eggs. Regardless of what you think this site is put here for you and I to better ourselves. We do it on here every day, physically and mentally. The debates in OT get heated sometimes. Every now and again someone spouts off with some baseless personal attacks to vent their frustrations. Your statements are an extention of yourself. You still have not taken the opportunity to redeem yourself. I have said things here that I did not intend to, When I realized my folly I apologized. You do not really wish ranger to get torched, if you do you are an enemy of the US. Do the right thing ang apologize for that statement at least. This will calm tempers and maybe if you are seeking some help in the future someone will give it to you. As it stands now I’m quite sure nobody will answer any serious training or nutrition question you have.
Be smart, we gain by working together.
Me and bill have to move a pile of rocks up a hill. I want to put the rocks in a bucket and carry them up taking turns. Bill wants to put them on a sled and both drag them up. We have to both decide on one for either would be too difficult to do alone. Now we can stand there and argue and not move any rocks, or since I know bill is a hard head I can just agree to use the sled method and get the job done so we can go have a beer.
IL Cazzo you seem to like the option of telling bill his method sucks and he is a worthless pussy for wanting to use the sled method. Then you tell him to fuck off and that you hope he slips and breaks his leg while he is pulling his stupid fucking sled. This option is likely to not get the rocks to the top of the hill. It might get a rock thrown at you head or maybe bill slugs you one. Either way it is in any light not the best choice.
I’m sure you need to act tough and hard though, cause that’s what really matters in life. Making sure everyone knows we are a tough sob. Yep you sure proved it buddy.
Fucking Twilight Zone!
Doogie, ofcourse you bought it, but you have deals with governments that you put to power giving you oil cheaper.
bin laden fueled the hatred by saying that you took the Islam countries god given oil, also pointing to the fact that you supported Saddam when he was testing chemical weapons on his kurd population. You have also sold weapons to Turkey wich they used to kill their kurds. the kurds are muslims, not sure about the Turk gov thou…
sorry if i paint the US as bad guys now, just trying to make you understand why terrorists appear and why US flags are being burned. You have done alot of good in the world. To me, it seems like most of the bad stuff comes throu the CIA.
Vegita, we gain by lifting weights.
Rainjack-
Maybe you would be happier
living in a country like
North Korea, where everybody
supports the commander in
chief, under threat of Death!
I am a veteran, but I tell you
If I was in the military today
I would still go and serve in Iraq
Even though I disagree with us
being there, because it would be
my duty.
To imply that anybody who disagrees
with the administration is unpatriotic
is close minded and ignorant.
Rainjack have you served or are
now?
Yall, seriously. What Il Cazzo said has no effect on me. Believe it or not, I have heard worse from pieces of trash like him. He is no different than the bastards we are fighting against. If he wants me to get killed or “torched” that’s fine. I have no problem with that. I think it’s funny in a way. What he said says a lot about him, and I’m sure everyone he knows thinks the same about him, and if he hasen’t already he’s gonna get knocked the fuck out. Thanks for defending me on this here forum guys. Keep up the good posts and I’ll hear from yall later. Hey Il Cazzo, there’s a post on the forum about gay marriage!! Looks pretty promising for you…
-When in doubt, flip it to burst.
Elkhntr1 -
Yes I have served. I have not ‘implied’ anything. I’ll say it again. To slam a President in a time of war is cowardice.
People have the right to do it - I never said they should be shot, or arrested, or tortured in a rape room.
I never called them un-patriotic either. But by no stretch of the imagination can these people be called Patriots. It takes no bravery to be against something as unpopular as war -not just this one, but any war.
Rainjack-
The one thing I will say
is you have the right to
your viewpoint and I mine.
With that lets part in peace!
“People have the right to do it - I never said they should be shot, or arrested, or tortured in a rape room.”
How compassionate!