It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
Tell us how did the wealthy vote themselves more money in the Walker election?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
That’s why a lot of people back the Tea Party…they don’t want to give shit to anybody.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
That’s why a lot of people back the Tea Party…they don’t want to give shit to anybody.
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I personally see the Tea party and the occupy people as combating the same issue from two different ends . The Tea Party wants to shirk Government and the Occupy people want Corporations out of our Government which would make a smaller Government. Thing of it is the powers that are pit one faction against the other
The unions should have been more narrow in their focus and just gone after the collective bargaining rights issue instead of the total recall. It worked well for them against John Kasich in Ohio and the unions won big time!
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
That’s why a lot of people back the Tea Party…they don’t want to give shit to anybody.
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I personally see the Tea party and the occupy people as combating the same issue from two different ends . The Tea Party wants to shirk Government and the Occupy people want Corporations out of our Government which would make a smaller Government. Thing of it is the powers that are pit one faction against the other
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You got it wrong Pitt.
The Tea Party wants smaller government and less taxes for all. And they go about it by participating in the process, putting forth candidates endorsing others etc.
The Occupy Movement wants a larger government that will give them everything that they want. And they go about it by protesting, sleeping in parks, urinating in public spaces and generally acting like animals.
There are no similarities other than they both want change.
Glad I could help you out here.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
That’s why a lot of people back the Tea Party…they don’t want to give shit to anybody.
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I personally see the Tea party and the occupy people as combating the same issue from two different ends . The Tea Party wants to shirk Government and the Occupy people want Corporations out of our Government which would make a smaller Government. Thing of it is the powers that are pit one faction against the other
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You got it wrong Pitt.
The Tea Party wants smaller government and less taxes for all. And they go about it by participating in the process, putting forth candidates endorsing others etc.
The Occupy Movement wants a larger government that will give them everything that they want. And they go about it by protesting, sleeping in parks, urinating in public spaces and generally acting like animals.
There are no similarities other than they both want change.
Glad I could help you out here.
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I did not say there was no differences , I said they seem to have a goal in common
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
That’s why a lot of people back the Tea Party…they don’t want to give shit to anybody.
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I personally see the Tea party and the occupy people as combating the same issue from two different ends . The Tea Party wants to shirk Government and the Occupy people want Corporations out of our Government which would make a smaller Government. Thing of it is the powers that are pit one faction against the other
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You got it wrong Pitt.
The Tea Party wants smaller government and less taxes for all. And they go about it by participating in the process, putting forth candidates endorsing others etc.
The Occupy Movement wants a larger government that will give them everything that they want. And they go about it by protesting, sleeping in parks, urinating in public spaces and generally acting like animals.
There are no similarities other than they both want change.
Glad I could help you out here.
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I did not say there was no differences , I said they seem to have a goal in common
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They don’t have a common goal as I explained above. They have quite disparate goals.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
If you noticed in my comment above, I also mentioned “the other side” where corporations can do the same.
If corporations would pony up their share, and Unions would stop bribing Democrats, the “working stiff” would benefit a great deal.
Pitt, here in Cali, we have the most INSANE Union gifts you have ever seen. Getting your full pay, with free healthcare (for you AND ALL YOUR FAMILY) for life, starting at the age of 50. Dude, we have 450,000 Union workers in California, with an unfunded pension debt nearing $60 Billion.
You can do not wrong here in Cali, you cannot get fired, even when a teacher fed k his kids semen-covered cookies and filming them eating them. It’s just too much power, and now we are going to dismantle them.
In our November election, we have a proposition to make Union dues optional, and watch how in Wisconsin, Union dues fell by 50%, and teacher Union dues fell by 1/3 almost instantly. We expect a similar outcome.
The tide of partisan bullshit is over, this is now about simple math. In San Jose, the DEMOCRATIC mayor is the one who passed pension reform, and he does not care if he gets voted out. THAT is a mother-fucker of a politician (in a good way).
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
That’s why a lot of people back the Tea Party…they don’t want to give shit to anybody.
[/quote]
I personally see the Tea party and the occupy people as combating the same issue from two different ends . The Tea Party wants to shirk Government and the Occupy people want Corporations out of our Government which would make a smaller Government. Thing of it is the powers that are pit one faction against the other
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You got it wrong Pitt.
The Tea Party wants smaller government and less taxes for all. And they go about it by participating in the process, putting forth candidates endorsing others etc.
The Occupy Movement wants a larger government that will give them everything that they want. And they go about it by protesting, sleeping in parks, urinating in public spaces and generally acting like animals.
There are no similarities other than they both want change.
Glad I could help you out here.
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I did not say there was no differences , I said they seem to have a goal in common
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They don’t have a common goal as I explained above. They have quite disparate goals.[/quote]
No You have it wrong nan na na na na
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
If you noticed in my comment above, I also mentioned “the other side” where corporations can do the same.
If corporations would pony up their share, and Unions would stop bribing Democrats, the “working stiff” would benefit a great deal.
Pitt, here in Cali, we have the most INSANE Union gifts you have ever seen. Getting your full pay, with free healthcare (for you AND ALL YOUR FAMILY) for life, starting at the age of 50. Dude, we have 450,000 Union workers in California, with an unfunded pension debt nearing $60 Billion.
You can do not wrong here in Cali, you cannot get fired, even when a teacher fed k his kids semen-covered cookies and filming them eating them. It’s just too much power, and now we are going to dismantle them.
In our November election, we have a proposition to make Union dues optional, and watch how in Wisconsin, Union dues fell by 50%, and teacher Union dues fell by 1/3 almost instantly. We expect a similar outcome.
The tide of partisan bullshit is over, this is now about simple math. In San Jose, the DEMOCRATIC mayor is the one who passed pension reform, and he does not care if he gets voted out. THAT is a mother-fucker of a politician (in a good way). [/quote]
I personally see a big down side to Unions but the nature of allowing corporations to dictate everything will lead to a shrinking middle class increasingly decreasing wages and just a general screwing of labor.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It’s amazing you can not see the wealthy doing the same, voting themselves more money. I guess it is different for the working stiff [/quote]
If you noticed in my comment above, I also mentioned “the other side” where corporations can do the same.
If corporations would pony up their share, and Unions would stop bribing Democrats, the “working stiff” would benefit a great deal.
Pitt, here in Cali, we have the most INSANE Union gifts you have ever seen. Getting your full pay, with free healthcare (for you AND ALL YOUR FAMILY) for life, starting at the age of 50. Dude, we have 450,000 Union workers in California, with an unfunded pension debt nearing $60 Billion.
You can do not wrong here in Cali, you cannot get fired, even when a teacher fed k his kids semen-covered cookies and filming them eating them. It’s just too much power, and now we are going to dismantle them.
In our November election, we have a proposition to make Union dues optional, and watch how in Wisconsin, Union dues fell by 50%, and teacher Union dues fell by 1/3 almost instantly. We expect a similar outcome.
The tide of partisan bullshit is over, this is now about simple math. In San Jose, the DEMOCRATIC mayor is the one who passed pension reform, and he does not care if he gets voted out. THAT is a mother-fucker of a politician (in a good way). [/quote]
I personally see a big down side to Unions but the nature of allowing corporations to dictate everything will lead to a shrinking middle class increasingly decreasing wages and just a general screwing of labor.
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Tell us precisely how many and which corporations are dictating “everything.”
It’s easy for someone to live with certain precepts in their mind that are not necessarily based on fact.
Pitt,
I would argue that here, the political climate is EXTREMELY Left, only to have us with a $17 Billion deficit. Along with that, comes the worst business climate 8 years in a row, 3rd highest unemployment rate, highest taxes, worst schools only behind the DC schools, highest illegal aliens and welfare cases.
You just can’t sustain that, time is your enemy, and the piper has come to collect here in California.
The pay for labor needs to be reflective of the current economy. Our useless Mayor gave Unions a 5% raise for each of 5 years in a row (so a 25% raise total in a 5-year time period). You can’t do that in a recession, now the City of LA has a $250 Million deficit.
I can only hope, that people learn from California’s mistakes, the largest being letting Unions unionize only to bribe politicians for more and more benefits.
Hey Pitt, wanna hear some funny shit ?
Do you know how this problem started here ? In 1975, the Governor of California signed a law that let workers Unionize. His name was Jerry Brown. Guess who is today’s California Governor…the same Jerry Brown. Stupid fuck is now fighting the very problem he created.
Maximus I do understand the evils of Unions . I have to deal with them and their lack of concern how their arogance costs me money but this says it pretty good . Maybe the best way to say it is Unions are a necessary evil
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Maximus I do understand the evils of Unions . I have to deal with them and their lack of concern how their arogance costs me money but this says it pretty good . Maybe the best way to say it is Unions are a necessary evil
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Horrible piece. Talk about lack of critical thinking.
Takes the whole correlation/causality debate to absurd lengths.
@koffea. Yea in fond du lac there’s a ridiculous amount of Walker signs, but I disagree about Milwaukee, when I was down there for school I honestly didnt see any walker signs, just recall ones. I know my arguement about child labor is over the top and most likely that won’t happen even with workers rights taken away but my point is in the principle, if laws are taken away it just opens the door to labor being abused by management.
[quote]JEATON wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Maximus I do understand the evils of Unions . I have to deal with them and their lack of concern how their arogance costs me money but this says it pretty good . Maybe the best way to say it is Unions are a necessary evil
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Horrible piece. Talk about lack of critical thinking.
Takes the whole correlation/causality debate to absurd lengths. [/quote]
Why because it does not reenforce your opinions ?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Maximus I do understand the evils of Unions . I have to deal with them and their lack of concern how their arogance costs me money but this says it pretty good . Maybe the best way to say it is Unions are a necessary evil
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Just like corporations right Pitt?
Politics is fucking crazy.
Here, we have one lady who paid millions of her own money to raise taxes.
Then, her brother spent millions of his money to get a prop on the ballot to make Union dues optional.
Trust-fund family like a mother fucker.