can wellbutrin help instead of trt ?
Did TRT increase your appetite?
I hear such opinions in the gym and I get uncomfortable from that. I managed to loose a lot of weight with diet and suffering so now I keep very fine balance not to be getting fatter. I love eating it is one of my favorite things in life and all my life Ive been waging battle with that.
Metformin has helped a bit but it is not a panacea
I ate like crazy the first month or two, it was crazy. My appetite calmed down though.
I think a lot of folks start hitting the gym harder or other type of exercising more on TRT due to increased energy. They are thereby hungrier replacing spent fuel. For me, I was always a gym rat so no it didnāt really do that to me. I am able to maintain a more positive body composition on the same level of food intake though.
I know more about SSRIs than Wellbutrin. Itās a unique antidepressant on its own. I think thatās more of a question for your Psych MD as Iām not doctor nor do I play one on TV 
I will put a plug on my mouthā¦
No issues with apetite yet, but it is too early. However I moved up 1.5kg. Im wondering whether I ate more previous week or I make some water retention. I know it is normal on TRT at least initially.
Today I put my 7-th injection. I can say so far I feel only a little bit better compared to before TRT. My erections are harder and pretty much thatās it. But I know is pretty early.
The first two-three days I felt better and like more stimulated, but after that this disappeared. I dont think it was placebo, but maybe initial reaction of the body to the new substance. Also together with the T I started new supplements - B complex and zinc that make me feel a bit crappy. Always when I start new supplements I feel crappy and it takes 2-3 weeks sometimes more to stop feeling them. Good that I experimented so much with supplements in the last year so I know I feel crappy from them initially.
I will make first very basic blood after week 4 maybe. But tomorrow I will go to test only total testosterone. It is 10 dollars investment and Im curious how much I have rose it for one week.
If you search āzinc estrogenā here youāll see a number of people claim it lowers estrogen, etcā¦ Why add new stuff? Are you zinc deficient? Since you are sensitive to supplements, zinc could have a profound effect on you and tank your estrogen and you wouldnāt even know it. Why risk it?
Understandably you are excited to see your levels, but they are going to change a lot over the next 7 weeks. While it is only $10, what are you going to do with the results knowing they will be drastically different when you reach a steady state?
Taking testosterone only and patience is key when first starting and for the first 8 weeks.
@bcostigan41
I donāt think zinc will tank my estrogen so much.
I take it because the doctor put it in my protocol and told me to start it with the testosterone. He checked my zinc levels. Iām not deficient, but he wants it higher. And this is an experienced doctor in the TRT filed that I trust. If I start questioning him it will become a mess now and I have not seen reason to.
What I have not added yet is HCG, DHEA and pregnenolone. I will see when I will add them and it will be very strategically one thing at a time.
But with vitamin/mineral supplements I just have to suck it up until I stop feeling them.
This is the silliest log Iāve ever seen. The things being reported are nonsense. The protocol is nonsense. Guys please do not use this as a template for your own protocol or as valid information.
@dbossa I wonder who I should trust - an experienced doctor or self proclaimed āTRT Expertā who has no idea of my particular condition? Sounds like a tough choiceā¦
Please demonstrate where I have ever self proclaimed as being a TRT Expert. Iāll wait patiently.
I see daily what the true experienced doctors are doing. You know this. What your doctor is suggesting isnāt anything remotely close to what they are doing. Youāre adding other things right off the bat. Youāre claiming better energy and libido within days. There is nothing here that makes any sense. I wish you would stop dishing out advice when your are just mere DAYS into your very first TRT protocol. Do you even know what you are saying? You are in no position whatsoever to be giving out advice to people.
For the record, Vonko was in our Facebook group. After multiple complaints from numerous members, he was removed. He would offer advice to virtually anyone with a question without even a basic level 101 understanding of what he was talking about.
@dbossa In fact you are the one now offering unwanted advice with unwanted attitude.
And believe it or not I trust this doctor more than you. By the way you know him for sure, he is also trained by Rouzier but I will not say his name here. Ive researched him very well and watched his podcasts before consulting him.
So you are trying to persuade me of something or what?
I would consider any sensible advice, but not given in such a way.
I wasnāt offering you advice. I was warning people not to take your advice. There is a difference. You also made a claim that Iām a self proclaimed expert but you havenāt been able to demonstrate that one either (like the rest of your claims). By all means, please do share who this doctor is.
@dbossa You want me to post some of your videos where you are being presented as a TRT expert or what?
For the record im not offering advice in this thread. Im sharing what Im doing, you got the difference?
Other people call me a TRT Expert. I have not once called myself a TRT Expert. In fact, in many videos, I tell people that I know nothing and they should speak with their doctors as Iām only sharing what I know.
If youāre going to make a claim like that, think about it properly before you do.
Well that sounds comfortable. So I follow your advice, I listen to my doctor and not you. Satisfied?
Absolutely! This will be a very long and entertaining log. I am looking forward to reading about all of the theories you will have as time goes on as to why youāre still not optimized. Good luck!
@dbossa Well it is a free forum so you are welcome to post as much garbage as you want in my topic. Good luck as well!
I believe you have the garbage covered sufficiently without any outside assistance 