So I’ve been reading some of Poliquin/Dr. Houston’s thoughts on Vitamin D.
“Another approach, which I prefer, is to supplement twice per week with about 30,000 to 100,000 IU of D3. Based on the research and clinical evidence, this method seems to accelerate the increase in blood levels of 25(OH) D3 (the marker that should be tested for). Although the kidneys still need to convert 25(OH) D3 into 1.25(OH)2 D3, the relevant lab value is 25(OH) D3. You should be shooting to get your levels between 80 and 100 ng/mL.”
I used to take 4000 IU every day (7 x 4 = 28,000 IU a week). Now I’m taking 20,000 IU twice a week for a grand total of 40,000 IU per week. I’m gonna get my blood levels checked after a couple of months of this, and if I’m below 80 ng/mL, I’m going to up it to 60,000-80,000 IU per week, depending on what the number is.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
So I’ve been reading some of Poliquin/Dr. Houston’s thoughts on Vitamin D.
“Another approach, which I prefer, is to supplement twice per week with about 30,000 to 100,000 IU of D3. Based on the research and clinical evidence, this method seems to accelerate the increase in blood levels of 25(OH) D3 (the marker that should be tested for). Although the kidneys still need to convert 25(OH) D3 into 1.25(OH)2 D3, the relevant lab value is 25(OH) D3. You should be shooting to get your levels between 80 and 100 ng/mL.”
I used to take 4000 IU every day (7 x 4 = 28,000 IU a week). Now I’m taking 20,000 IU twice a week for a grand total of 40,000 IU per week. I’m gonna get my blood levels checked after a couple of months of this, and if I’m below 80 ng/mL, I’m going to up it to 60,000-80,000 IU per week, depending on what the number is.[/quote]
I’d be careful to stick to the same brand if I were you (and if going this high). The actual % of vitamin D can range anywhere from 2% to something like 90% and varies greatly even among national brands. (this is based on this research/investigation I read about). If it’s true, then you could think you were taking 4000 iu per day and really only have been getting 1000 iu per day, then you switch to a new brand and you “double the dose” which could effectively multiply the previous actual dose by 8X.
What do you guys think about this link? It lists 14 reasons why we shouldn’t supplement with vitamin D. This goes against what a lot of other people are saying.
Well IDK about that man. I didn’t take any this morning and walla, no headache. Yesterday I only took one = less headache.
For me anyways, it seems that too much causes headaches. It’s a common side affect if you read about taking too much of it.[/quote]
OTOH, any pharmaceutical study finds placebo to give headaches at a substantial percentage, too.[/quote]
And your point it what? I’m imagining my headaches???[/quote]
That’s not what he said at all. He didn’t cast doubt about your headaches being real. He said that in his opinion that it was not the Vit D that caused it. Maybe your pills are contaminated. Maybe you took them at the same time of the day, which happened to coincide with some other headache causing event/factor. Or the headaches could be psychosomatic, which means that they are induced by your own mind, but they are nonetheless real.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
So I’ve been reading some of Poliquin/Dr. Houston’s thoughts on Vitamin D.
“Another approach, which I prefer, is to supplement twice per week with about 30,000 to 100,000 IU of D3. Based on the research and clinical evidence, this method seems to accelerate the increase in blood levels of 25(OH) D3 (the marker that should be tested for). Although the kidneys still need to convert 25(OH) D3 into 1.25(OH)2 D3, the relevant lab value is 25(OH) D3. You should be shooting to get your levels between 80 and 100 ng/mL.”
I used to take 4000 IU every day (7 x 4 = 28,000 IU a week). Now I’m taking 20,000 IU twice a week for a grand total of 40,000 IU per week. I’m gonna get my blood levels checked after a couple of months of this, and if I’m below 80 ng/mL, I’m going to up it to 60,000-80,000 IU per week, depending on what the number is.[/quote]
I’d be careful to stick to the same brand if I were you (and if going this high). The actual % of vitamin D can range anywhere from 2% to something like 90% and varies greatly even among national brands. (this is based on this research/investigation I read about). If it’s true, then you could think you were taking 4000 iu per day and really only have been getting 1000 iu per day, then you switch to a new brand and you “double the dose” which could effectively multiply the previous actual dose by 8X.[/quote]
Good to know, thanks. I’m taking Carlson and I won’t be switching anytime soon.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
So I’ve been reading some of Poliquin/Dr. Houston’s thoughts on Vitamin D.
“Another approach, which I prefer, is to supplement twice per week with about 30,000 to 100,000 IU of D3. Based on the research and clinical evidence, this method seems to accelerate the increase in blood levels of 25(OH) D3 (the marker that should be tested for). Although the kidneys still need to convert 25(OH) D3 into 1.25(OH)2 D3, the relevant lab value is 25(OH) D3. You should be shooting to get your levels between 80 and 100 ng/mL.”
I used to take 4000 IU every day (7 x 4 = 28,000 IU a week). Now I’m taking 20,000 IU twice a week for a grand total of 40,000 IU per week. I’m gonna get my blood levels checked after a couple of months of this, and if I’m below 80 ng/mL, I’m going to up it to 60,000-80,000 IU per week, depending on what the number is.[/quote]
I’d be careful to stick to the same brand if I were you (and if going this high). The actual % of vitamin D can range anywhere from 2% to something like 90% and varies greatly even among national brands. (this is based on this research/investigation I read about). If it’s true, then you could think you were taking 4000 iu per day and really only have been getting 1000 iu per day, then you switch to a new brand and you “double the dose” which could effectively multiply the previous actual dose by 8X.[/quote]
Interesting, I’ve always wondered about certain brands of D becasue essentially all the labels I’ve seen have been similar. Could you divulge some good brands, I saw on consumer lab something similar but i’m not a subscriber.
Well IDK about that man. I didn’t take any this morning and walla, no headache. Yesterday I only took one = less headache.
For me anyways, it seems that too much causes headaches. It’s a common side affect if you read about taking too much of it.[/quote]
OTOH, any pharmaceutical study finds placebo to give headaches at a substantial percentage, too.[/quote]
And your point it what? I’m imagining my headaches???[/quote]
No, the point is that when dealing with any substantial number of people, some will experience coincidences, even some number of times in a row. This causes the appearance of causation.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
So I’ve been reading some of Poliquin/Dr. Houston’s thoughts on Vitamin D.
“Another approach, which I prefer, is to supplement twice per week with about 30,000 to 100,000 IU of D3. Based on the research and clinical evidence, this method seems to accelerate the increase in blood levels of 25(OH) D3 (the marker that should be tested for). Although the kidneys still need to convert 25(OH) D3 into 1.25(OH)2 D3, the relevant lab value is 25(OH) D3. You should be shooting to get your levels between 80 and 100 ng/mL.”
I used to take 4000 IU every day (7 x 4 = 28,000 IU a week). Now I’m taking 20,000 IU twice a week for a grand total of 40,000 IU per week. I’m gonna get my blood levels checked after a couple of months of this, and if I’m below 80 ng/mL, I’m going to up it to 60,000-80,000 IU per week, depending on what the number is.[/quote]
once the ideal blood levels are attained, what will you do? continue with the SUPER high doses twice a week? or take a smaller dose everyday to maintain?
So back to the headaches I’ve been having. I think it is caused by vitamin d eating up my magnesium as someone mentioned could be the problem. So, knowing how beneficial D can be, I wanna keep taking it, but I think I should take magnesium as well. How much magnesium should I take? My multi only provides 25% of daily recommendation.
Do I need to worry about taking too much magnesium? I have some ZMA, but haven’t used it in 2 months. I might start again next month. Could that be cause for concern?
[quote]Reign Supreme wrote:
Do you think 150% will be too much? The Mag caps I bought have 125% and my multi 25%.[/quote]
Highly unlikely, especially being a gym goer(which increases your needs). The mag in your multi is often oxide or citrate, and you won’t absorb all that much (especially oxide).
If you’re taking your D in the evening (when it’s best to take magnesium), can’t see it being a problem!
Yes, I should have been clearer… actually I thought I had an edit adding that magnesium is not one of those nutrients that requires any particular care to avoid overshooting as there is very little of an issue of that, but that isn’t there now.
By 100% RDA being fine, I didn’t mean that only that was fine. Just that it is fine.