Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t act.[/quote]

Bullshit, he was great in Last Action Hero and True Lies! He wasnt bad in Kindergarten Cop either!

[quote]DT20 wrote:
Movies depend on special effects like CGI, latex, etc…

Why would someone cast a guy that is big and can’t act when they could cast someone that can act and just “give them muscles” by using special effects.

If Spawn were played by a good actor instead of Michal Jai White, the movie would probably have made more money.

Movies are made to make money, so roles should be cast based on what is likely to make more money.

The average moviegoer couldn’t care less if an actor really has muscles or not. They just want to see a good movie.

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Casting a bigger actor would lead to making more money. That CGI, latex, and all those other special effects cost a shitload of money. So from that perspective, casting someone who is a relative newcomer (who can fit the bill in regards to size) means a) not much in terms of graphical effects are need to enhance the character and b) since he, for all intents and purposes, is a “filler” character, the studio wouldn’t have to pay him as much as say a Kelsey Grammer.

From just watching the trailer, it looks like Beast is going to be bigger than Juggernaut, and I’m sure there are plenty of guys on this site who are bigger than both.

More importantly, why no Gambit? And no more Colossus? I loved X2, despite all the storyline changes that were made, and I’m definitely seeing X3, but how did Kitty Pride get into X3?

Prof YOU are big enough to play juggernaut… So get out there and start auditioning!

[quote]PGA200X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t act.

Bullshit, he was great in Last Action Hero and True Lies! He wasnt bad in Kindergarten Cop either![/quote]

Yes, Last Action Hero deserved an Oscar…and a Nobel Peace Prize.

Well, I think the could have used Da Freak, I mean, he’s already played a superhero. Also, why not Mariuz?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t act.

Bullshit, he was great in Last Action Hero and True Lies! He wasnt bad in Kindergarten Cop either!

Yes, Last Action Hero deserved an Oscar…and a Nobel Peace Prize.[/quote]

No need for the sarcasm. Dude was just saying that he liked the movies - no different than millions of other people who paid to see Arnold in them.

A movie doens’t need to win an Oscar to be good. In fact, lots of movies that win Oscars suck donkey tails. Ever see Lost in Translation?

[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t act.

Bullshit, he was great in Last Action Hero and True Lies! He wasnt bad in Kindergarten Cop either!

Yes, Last Action Hero deserved an Oscar…and a Nobel Peace Prize.

No need for the sarcasm. Dude was just saying that he liked the movies - no different than millions of other people who paid to see Arnold in them.

A movie doens’t need to win an Oscar to be good. In fact, lots of movies that win Oscars suck donkey tails. Ever see Lost in Translation?[/quote]

I am absolutely positive that he was being sarcastic as well. You didn’t really just throw an emotional fit, did you?

he did.

the point is that in hollywood, the name and the face sell tickets … even if some bodybuilder could act, it would not matter … the simple fact that vinny jones is quite well known and has rep as a hardass will sell way more tickets

think about how much cheaper it would have been to pay branch warren or similar … probably 10% or even less of the compensation, not to mention the lack of need for a latex costume … do you think that hollywood didn’t consider all of this?

while we would like to see it, we are the very small minority

Dan

[quote]veruvius wrote:
From just watching the trailer, it looks like Beast is going to be bigger than Juggernaut, and I’m sure there are plenty of guys on this site who are bigger than both.

More importantly, why no Gambit? And no more Colossus? I loved X2, despite all the storyline changes that were made, and I’m definitely seeing X3, but how did Kitty Pride get into X3?[/quote]

Colossus is in X3.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Someone so strong that they can survive direct hit with bombs should look “average”?

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i think you take comic books a bit too seriously

[quote]PGA200X wrote:
DAMN! That has to be latex?!?!?[/quote]

Is that a picture from the new x-man 3 movie?

[quote]Kim Jong-il wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Someone so strong that they can survive direct hit with bombs should look “average”?

i think you take comic books a bit too seriously[/quote]

I think you take following me around the board a little too seriously. I mean, that is just weird.

[quote]Kim Jong-il wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Someone so strong that they can survive direct hit with bombs should look “average”?

i think you take comic books a bit too seriously[/quote]

Kim baby, this is a thread about a comic book that’s turned into a movie. Thus that is what is being discussed. Stay off it if you think it’s getting “too serious”.

Who is Vinnie Jones? I’ve never heard of him.

I wonder if Colosus will be the same dude from X2.

They do need more muscular people playing these roles! It’s more believable, even if they have to scale them down since they aren’t able to recreate true comic book stats for each person.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t act.

Bullshit, he was great in Last Action Hero and True Lies! He wasnt bad in Kindergarten Cop either!

Yes, Last Action Hero deserved an Oscar…and a Nobel Peace Prize.

No need for the sarcasm. Dude was just saying that he liked the movies - no different than millions of other people who paid to see Arnold in them.

A movie doens’t need to win an Oscar to be good. In fact, lots of movies that win Oscars suck donkey tails. Ever see Lost in Translation?

I am absolutely positive that he was being sarcastic as well. You didn’t really just throw an emotional fit, did you?
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I was serious about his acting in True Lies.

Last Action is one of the films people hate but I love. I think it was really well written and done and he did a great job of making fun of himself. But I dont care if you dont agree. Hell it makes it more fun if people dont agree! No probs here X.

[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
Who is Vinnie Jones? I’ve never heard of him.

I wonder if Colosus will be the same dude from X2.

They do need more muscular people playing these roles! It’s more believable, even if they have to scale them down since they aren’t able to recreate true comic book stats for each person.[/quote]

He was in Snatch, Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels, Gone in 60 seconds etc…

Yea, its supposed to be Daniel Cudmore from X3 still. He’s got some good size on him. Part of his “bigness” will be that he’s quite tall- something like 6’5 I believe.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/nomilkpls/celebs/cud19.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nomilkplease.blogspot.com/2005/02/daniel-cudmore-as-colossus.html&h=368&w=265&sz=75&tbnid=F1gFD52uEhif4M:&tbnh=118&tbnw=84&hl=en&start=8&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddaniel%2Bcudmore%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
-MAtt

[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
Who is Vinnie Jones? I’ve never heard of him.

I wonder if Colosus will be the same dude from X2.

They do need more muscular people playing these roles! It’s more believable, even if they have to scale them down since they aren’t able to recreate true comic book stats for each person.[/quote]

[quote]PGA200X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Arnold Schwarzenegger can’t act.

Bullshit, he was great in Last Action Hero and True Lies! He wasnt bad in Kindergarten Cop either!

Yes, Last Action Hero deserved an Oscar…and a Nobel Peace Prize.

No need for the sarcasm. Dude was just saying that he liked the movies - no different than millions of other people who paid to see Arnold in them.

A movie doens’t need to win an Oscar to be good. In fact, lots of movies that win Oscars suck donkey tails. Ever see Lost in Translation?

I am absolutely positive that he was being sarcastic as well. You didn’t really just throw an emotional fit, did you?

I was serious about his acting in True Lies.

Last Action is one of the films people hate but I love. I think it was really well written and done and he did a great job of making fun of himself. But I dont care if you dont agree. Hell it makes it more fun if people dont agree! No probs here X.[/quote]

One more bump to Arnold in Conan the Barbarian. Another great movie - it should have won an Oscar, and a Nobel Peace prize!

Professor X needs to work on his psycic ability. Maybe he can do that while he watches those good old Oscar winning films like Brokeback Mountain.

As for me, I’ll stick with the Man flicks!