[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Whywould you risk your life to impede traffic? Driving slow in the fast lane does not make things safer![/quote]
Because I have to turn LEFT off of a 4 lane road. But before I can do that, I have to be in the passing lane, then merge into the left turn lane.
This inconveniences people who want to fly in the passing lane? Tough. Vote for a different road.
Impatient to turn and feel the urge to cut around in line? Nope. Learn some manners, as alien a concept as that is.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Reef wrote:
Anyone who doesn’t get out of the way for other cars in the fast lane is a douchebag.
No, not if you’re coming to an intersection where you have to turn left. Further, you have to get over a ways before that intersection because assholes want to fly through it like bats out of hell and you’ll have trouble making your turn.
I didn’t design the roads. Regrettably, some stuff may slow someone down for a short period. However, you’re life will not end if you get to your destination 30 seconds later. And just because you are in your car, you still have to have some consideration for others.
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I didn’t mean on a regular road with street lights. I meant on the expressway. Obviously, if you have to make a left turn it’s a different matter.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
dalejohnson wrote:
There is nothing that pisses me off more than when old man rivers is briskly cruising in the fast lane at 60 mph with ten and two going on. WTF??? I wanted to flag him down and strangle him.
I always ask myself why these people are still on the road.
Venting over.
I hear ya. 10 and 2 has been proven to be less effective than 9 and 3 due to reaction times and steering sensitivity. They will teach you this at a performance driving school. 10 and 2 drivers are so outdated.
DB[/quote]
Are you joking or serious about the 9 and 3 position?
I was an instructor at a high performance driving school (cheap way to get your pro licence) and this is exactly what we taught. The theory behind it is that you use your shoulders more than your forearms. You are the first person outside of a racing environment I’ve ever heard say this. Have you done a school? That’s not common knowledge to say the least.
One time we had a group of drivers ed instructors come for a day course…they didn;t want to believe half the stuff we were telling them and thought they knew everything. We then took them for hot laps around the track and they realized we were telling the truth. Good times.
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
It’s just a simple matter of common courtesy.
I don’t cut people off, try to skip past people in merge situations, drive in the shoulder during a traffic jam,
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Oh that REALLY pisses me off. I’ve gotten into some good ones with peopel who do this over the years. Quite often if I’m stuck in traffic I will deliberately move over to an outside lane. If I see someone come bombing up the shoulder I will move halfway out into the shoulder lane blocking their progress and forcing them to slow down. It works really well when the car behind me closes teh gap between us enough to disallow the speeder from merging back into general traffic. One time I had a woman start leaning on her horn, thinking she could annoy me into moving … I just turned up my radio. Problem solved. I’m happy just thinking about it.
I think this partially depends on where in the country/world you live. For instance, in New England, RI and MA especially, speed limits are notoriously low for a number of reasons: they haven’t been updated as cars got faster and safer, they take into account winter weather, they provide lots of revenue in the way of tickets, population/traffic density, etc… When I drove around the country a couple years ago, I was amazed to find myself driving what I thought was a reasonable speed for the road and conditions and find myself going roughly the speed limit, or 5-10 over. It was like the speed limit had been set for the road, amazing!!! (sarcasm there)
Roads that would have a limit of 45 or 50 most places in the country (rural or suburban, relatively straight, 2 or 3 lanes each way, relatively few lights, not too hilly, etc…) are usually 25-30 around here. Highways with 75/65 day/night limits in much of the country are 55 or maybe 65 all the time around here.
So, to the OP, I don’t know what the roads are like around you, but if you’re in the left lane of a surface street around here, where traffic moves around 50-60mph but the speed limit is actually 30, and you’re doing 35, you’re an asshole, and a dangerous one at that. However, if the speed limit is actually a reasonable limit for the road, then you’re still an ass, but not as much of one.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
In Michigan you would most likely be ticketed for impeding the flow of traffic.
As stated before, if you want to be a cop, become a cop.[/quote]
I know a cop in California who’s ticketed lots of people for exactly this behavior. It’s not like Cali doesn’t have enough traffic trouble already without people wanting to be speed police, and the cops hate it.
To OG’s post, while riding my motorcycle splitting traffic on the interstate (which is quite legal in Cali), I often smell people smoking doobie. Gives me the willies enough to see them reading books and doing crosswords, but weed in traffic? How about some gin too?
But the one who will eventually kill me is the soccer mom in an SUV with 8 kids screaming the back while she talks on the phone. Numerous close calls with these, even though I ride assuming everyone’s trying to kill me.
Just remember - during busy hours all it takes is ONE person driving badly to affect thousands. When you drive slow in the left lane you have no idea what the consequences will be behind you. I guarantee it causes dangerous driving. One day there could be an accident because of you.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Whywould you risk your life to impede traffic? Driving slow in the fast lane does not make things safer!
Because I have to turn LEFT off of a 4 lane road. But before I can do that, I have to be in the passing lane, then merge into the left turn lane.
This inconveniences people who want to fly in the passing lane? Tough. Vote for a different road.
Impatient to turn and feel the urge to cut around in line? Nope. Learn some manners, as alien a concept as that is.
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Passing lane. Not slow travel lane.
People like you cause more accidents than people who speed. You create bottlenecks of traffic behind you and bunch shit up into clusterfucks.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
It’s just a simple matter of common courtesy.
I don’t cut people off, try to skip past people in merge situations, drive in the shoulder during a traffic jam,
Oh that REALLY pisses me off. I’ve gotten into some good ones with peopel who do this over the years. Quite often if I’m stuck in traffic I will deliberately move over to an outside lane. If I see someone come bombing up the shoulder I will move halfway out into the shoulder lane blocking their progress and forcing them to slow down. It works really well when the car behind me closes teh gap between us enough to disallow the speeder from merging back into general traffic. One time I had a woman start leaning on her horn, thinking she could annoy me into moving … I just turned up my radio. Problem solved. I’m happy just thinking about it.
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Spot on. If they can’t wait in line like everyone else, have to fuck up everything by merging back in, then let 'em by a fucking helicopter!
I can’t help it if someone wants to do 80 in a 55 zone and I am in the way. Fuck 'em, they can do a Thelma and Louise.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Whywould you risk your life to impede traffic? Driving slow in the fast lane does not make things safer!
Because I have to turn LEFT off of a 4 lane road. But before I can do that, I have to be in the passing lane, then merge into the left turn lane.
This inconveniences people who want to fly in the passing lane? Tough. Vote for a different road.
Impatient to turn and feel the urge to cut around in line? Nope. Learn some manners, as alien a concept as that is.
Passing lane. Not slow travel lane.
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Feel free to keep going fast and do your left turn. Enjoy.
[quote]Brazen T wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
dalejohnson wrote:
There is nothing that pisses me off more than when old man rivers is briskly cruising in the fast lane at 60 mph with ten and two going on. WTF??? I wanted to flag him down and strangle him.
I always ask myself why these people are still on the road.
Venting over.
I hear ya. 10 and 2 has been proven to be less effective than 9 and 3 due to reaction times and steering sensitivity. They will teach you this at a performance driving school. 10 and 2 drivers are so outdated.
DB
Are you joking or serious about the 9 and 3 position? [/quote]
Totally serious.
Let’s just say I’m a man of the world. Actually, my father has done a couple of Bondurant courses. He would come back from those and show us (my mother, me and my 4 sisters) what he learned in the (full-size) family van on the way home from church. Pretty funny. We all thought he was going to roll the van taking the turns at high speed.
DB
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
It’s just a simple matter of common courtesy.
I don’t cut people off, try to skip past people in merge situations, drive in the shoulder during a traffic jam,
Oh that REALLY pisses me off. I’ve gotten into some good ones with peopel who do this over the years. Quite often if I’m stuck in traffic I will deliberately move over to an outside lane. If I see someone come bombing up the shoulder I will move halfway out into the shoulder lane blocking their progress and forcing them to slow down. It works really well when the car behind me closes teh gap between us enough to disallow the speeder from merging back into general traffic. One time I had a woman start leaning on her horn, thinking she could annoy me into moving … I just turned up my radio. Problem solved. I’m happy just thinking about it.
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Passing on the shoulder is not acceptable.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Whywould you risk your life to impede traffic? Driving slow in the fast lane does not make things safer!
Because I have to turn LEFT off of a 4 lane road. But before I can do that, I have to be in the passing lane, then merge into the left turn lane.
This inconveniences people who want to fly in the passing lane? Tough. Vote for a different road.
Impatient to turn and feel the urge to cut around in line? Nope. Learn some manners, as alien a concept as that is.
Passing lane. Not slow travel lane.
Feel free to keep going fast and do your left turn. Enjoy.
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The turning lane is not the passing lane.
[quote]AccipiterQ wrote:
People like you cause more accidents than people who speed. You create bottlenecks of traffic behind you and bunch shit up into clusterfucks. [/quote]
Show me the accident study that backs up this assertion. I think you may be wrong, statistically speaking.
DB
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Whywould you risk your life to impede traffic? Driving slow in the fast lane does not make things safer!
Because I have to turn LEFT off of a 4 lane road. But before I can do that, I have to be in the passing lane, then merge into the left turn lane.
This inconveniences people who want to fly in the passing lane? Tough. Vote for a different road.
Impatient to turn and feel the urge to cut around in line? Nope. Learn some manners, as alien a concept as that is.
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There’s no problem with you sitting in the left lane for a couple blocks to make sure you get your turn. But what’s the point of speeding up when someone tries to pass you to get the left turn first? What’s the point of that besides being a complete and utter douche bag? There’s absolutely no reason for it.
You’re like the dickhead at Wal Mart who parks his cart on the right side of the aisle and then stands to the left of the cart. Basically blocking anyone from getting through while you stare at the intriguing assortment of tooth paste.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I’m 6’6" and 290.
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I guess that means you can fight. Next time you’re in NJ, shoot me a PM and we’ll hit the mat/ring legal like and I’ll make your little underwear stain fantasy come true. Funny guy. Drive like the big man you’re claiming to be instead of some hysterical broad worried about how fast someone else like me is going. itch.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
jtrinsey wrote:
It’s just a simple matter of common courtesy.
I don’t cut people off, try to skip past people in merge situations, drive in the shoulder during a traffic jam, run red lights or speed in residential areas or other areas not designed for speedy transit. I do hate the “speed up to slow down” drivers who will fly around you when there is a red light 200 feet ahead. I usually just laugh at the gas their dumbasses are wasting though.
I do however, tend to drive fast on the interstate if the space is there. If somebody is driving faster than me, I gladly get over and let them drive faster than me. I do not take this as an affront to my manhood. I do not get angry because they are breaking the law. I simply slide on over and get on with my day. I expect somebody else to give me the same courtesy since it costs them nothing to do so. Some of you guys must live stressful lives if you are getting so bent out of shape over these things!
If somebody is running to catch their flight in an airport, do you guys block their way?
For the record, in many states it is illegal to drive in the left lane (on the interstate) for purposes other than passing. What is that old saying, “two wrong don’t make a right?”
On interstates, sure, you are right. But those rules are different on surface streets. Surface streets are not designed to be used in an abusive manner, which many ill-mannered folk want to do.
Why should I care if someone is late for their flight? Does this somehow give them the right to weave in and out of surface street traffic? Should we all pull over because His Majesty is on the road? Jeeezzzzz…
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Now I’m sure you’re a passive/aggressive 6’6" broad. Must be hard to find high heels in your shoe size isn’t it big fella?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Whywould you risk your life to impede traffic? Driving slow in the fast lane does not make things safer!
Because I have to turn LEFT off of a 4 lane road. But before I can do that, I have to be in the passing lane, then merge into the left turn lane.
This inconveniences people who want to fly in the passing lane? Tough. Vote for a different road.
Impatient to turn and feel the urge to cut around in line? Nope. Learn some manners, as alien a concept as that is.
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Didn’t it ever occur to your menstrually ruled mindset that letting someone else that might be in more of a hurry than you is manners? As alien a concept as that is (to you apparently).
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Brazen T wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
dalejohnson wrote:
There is nothing that pisses me off more than when old man rivers is briskly cruising in the fast lane at 60 mph with ten and two going on. WTF??? I wanted to flag him down and strangle him.
I always ask myself why these people are still on the road.
Venting over.
I hear ya. 10 and 2 has been proven to be less effective than 9 and 3 due to reaction times and steering sensitivity. They will teach you this at a performance driving school. 10 and 2 drivers are so outdated.
DB
Are you joking or serious about the 9 and 3 position?
Totally serious.
I was an instructor at a high performance driving school (cheap way to get your pro licence) and this is exactly what we taught. The theory behind it is that you use your shoulders more than your forearms. You are the first person outside of a racing environment I’ve ever heard say this. Have you done a school? That’s not common knowledge to say the least.
Let’s just say I’m a man of the world. Actually, my father has done a couple of Bondurant courses. He would come back from those and show us (my mother, me and my 4 sisters) what he learned in the (full-size) family van on the way home from church. Pretty funny. We all thought he was going to roll the van taking the turns at high speed.
DB[/quote]
Nice, that’s what I like to hear! So much of what’s taught at performance schools can be used on the street…it’s too bad more people can’t afford to take them.
Bondurant is a pretty decent school, worked with some of the guys from there on various gigs.