Video Games Make You Less Manly?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Blame our society for establishing a culture where people are lacking the mental fortitude and strength to control our self indulgence being food or leisure. [/quote]

Ok, so let me get this straight, and I’ve got you wrong, let me know:

The only aspect that makes an activity or a thing “unmanly” is its interference with adult responsibilities, e.g., putting food on the table?

So, as such, there is no such thing as an inherently “manly” activity - dressing up as Liza Minelli and enjoying show tunes on a Friday night is no different than, say, hunting an elk in the hills of Idaho on the scale of manliness - and both pursuits would be equally “manly” or “unmanly” solely depending on their interference with adult responsibilities, but nothing else?

Is this right?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

What the fuck makes archery manly? LOL[/quote]

Never bow-hunted I guess? I understand - it’s rough on a new manicure, and those things can be expensive.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Blame our society for establishing a culture where people are lacking the mental fortitude and strength to control our self indulgence being food or leisure. [/quote]

Ok, so let me get this straight, and I’ve got you wrong, let me know:

The only aspect that makes an activity or a thing “unmanly” is its interference with adult responsibilities, e.g., putting food on the table?

So, as such, there is no such thing as an inherently “manly” activity - dressing up as Liza Minelli and enjoying show tunes on a Friday night is no different than, say, hunting an elk in the hills of Idaho on the scale of manliness - and both pursuits would be equally “manly” or “unmanly” solely depending on their interference with adult responsibilities, but nothing else?

Is this right?[/quote]

That would be my classification of “manly” as a provider and protector of the family. Whatever self indulgent pursuit someone engages in as a means of dealing with everyday stress for relaxation or deload to me does not require a label.

I am a pretty normal guy, drink beer, ride a Harley, watch football etc

However I also play video games, read sci fiction books, cook (not BBQ), wash clothes for the family.

We all have our stereotypical views of what we consider manly, my point is who are YOU or I to label what that is?

This leads to thinking such as can a homosexual couple be parents? Can black men play hockey? Will a white man ever be able to dance?

Its just silly dick measuring that the ignorant and young argue about.

If some fat, lazy individual refuses to engage in society and be a positive person in general why point at what they do instead of pointing at the person.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

That would be my classification of “manly” as a provider and protector of the family. Whatever self indulgent pursuit someone engages in as a means of dealing with everyday stress for relaxation or deload to me does not require a label. [/quote]

So, what is your answer - is the Liza Minellia drag queen equally as manly as the Idaho elk-hunter? Yes or no?

Just curious.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

That would be my classification of “manly” as a provider and protector of the family. Whatever self indulgent pursuit someone engages in as a means of dealing with everyday stress for relaxation or deload to me does not require a label. [/quote]

So, what is your answer - is the Liza Minellia drag queen equally as manly as the Idaho elk-hunter? Yes or no?

Just curious.[/quote]

hahahahaahaha okay so on a equal playing field? As far as taking care of their wife and kids?

All being equal than yes I would stand by my argument that they are both manly.

But now you are equating the drag queen as being equal to video gamer?

So there is now a sliding scale for manly behavior?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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hahahahaahaha okay so on a equal playing field? As far as taking care of their wife and kids?

All being equal than yes I would stand by my argument that they are both manly.[/quote]

Okay, fair enough. That’s the answer I was looking for.

[quote]But now you are equating the drag queen as being equal to video gamer?

So there is now a sliding scale for manly behavior? [/quote]

No, I’m not equating being a drag queen as equal to video gaming. However, you just did, didn’t you?

To your other point: is there a sliding scale? Well, sure, I think so, never said otherwise. However, it appears you don’t think so.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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hahahahaahaha okay so on a equal playing field? As far as taking care of their wife and kids?

All being equal than yes I would stand by my argument that they are both manly.[/quote]

Okay, fair enough. That’s the answer I was looking for.

[quote]But now you are equating the drag queen as being equal to video gamer?

So there is now a sliding scale for manly behavior? [/quote]

No, I’m not equating being a drag queen as equal to video gaming. However, you just did, didn’t you?

To your other point: is there a sliding scale? Well, sure, I think so, never said otherwise. However, it appears you don’t think so.
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Well you brought up the drag queen as an extreme example of course to prove a point in a discussion about the value of video games and how it equates to manly behavior. So your purpose was of course to equate the two in an attempt to prove your point.

Of course there is no sliding scale its pretty black or white you either provide and protect your family or you do not. Pretty simple.

Now this view of course is from my viewpoint as a father and husband. I am not a single man so this scale does not work of course for the single age man in his 20’s.

I am sure you would have some extreme examples of this also.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Well you brought up the drag queen as an extreme example of course to prove a point in a discussion about the value of video games and how it equates to manly behavior. So your purpose was of course to equate the two in an attempt to prove your point.[/quote]

Well, no, my point was to prove that you think there is no such thing as inherently manly behavior. As such, from a manliness point of view, the playing field is equal. Lifting weights is just as manly as not lifting them. And so forth, under your theory.

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LOL at arguing with thunderbolt.

That is so 00’s.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Well you brought up the drag queen as an extreme example of course to prove a point in a discussion about the value of video games and how it equates to manly behavior. So your purpose was of course to equate the two in an attempt to prove your point.[/quote]

Well, no, my point was to prove that you think there is no such thing as inherently manly behavior. As such, from a manliness point of view, the playing field is equal. Lifting weights is just as manly as not lifting them. And so forth, under your theory.[/quote]

Yes your point is everything in life is superficial and what we display to the world is what defines a person. You probably hate black people, woman and anybody that is not exactly like you. You continue to base your argument with this premise which you cannot deny because you have numerous times clarified what you consider “manly”.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOL at arguing with thunderbolt.

That is so 00’s.[/quote]

I know, I know.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Yes your point is everything in life is superficial and what we display to the world is what defines a person.[/quote]

Um, no, and nothing I said has given any indication of that.

So, my statements on this thread have indicated I am (1) a racist, (2) a misogynist, and (3) and a xenophobe - all because I think, you know, some things are more manly than others, as in, football might just be more manly than ballet.

Wow, hilarious. I clearly made a mistake in taking you seriously.

This is a nonsensical statement, and I’d ask for a clarification, but given your other comments, I am not sure you got anything worthy of interest.

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Thread… so… confusing…

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

Thread… so… confusing…[/quote]

I can help. See the attached. This is manly.

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See that attached. Just as manly.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
See that attached. Just as manly.[/quote]

I don’t get it.

He could be a world-class bow hunter.

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Equally manly.

Oh, and I am a racist.

All should be clear now.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Yes your point is everything in life is superficial and what we display to the world is what defines a person.[/quote]

Um, no, and nothing I said has given any indication of that.

So, my statements on this thread have indicated I am (1) a racist, (2) a misogynist, and (3) and a xenophobe - all because I think, you know, some things are more manly than others, as in, football might just be more manly than ballet.

Wow, hilarious. I clearly made a mistake in taking you seriously.

This is a nonsensical statement, and I’d ask for a clarification, but given your other comments, I am not sure you got anything worthy of interest.[/quote]

Well you have to continue to fall back on insulting people shows how you view yourself and other people. If you read my other posts I am actually at work taking care of a few things are you?

Glad I am not of interest to you, I do not care for racists.

Yes sorry but you love to place labels on people you made that clear with your examples, most people who continue to view the world like this have racist and other tendencies. Now you may not act on it of course, however your slanted view shows your deep feeling.

So we now know you love to be in the woods hunting with men and killing anything that moves. This is manly all else is not manly.

Okay I am done back to work.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

He could be a world-class bow hunter.[/quote]

He could be, and he could be Professor X’s manicurist, and the measure of manliness would be the same.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Equally manly.

Oh, and I am a racist.

All should be clear now.[/quote]

I know, I know you have black friends or you once banged a black chick.