[quote]MikeShank wrote:
Hi Airtruth,
What is your opinion about what will happen with him if it is proven that he did more than associate with these guys? What if it is found that he had a direct hand in this and was guilty of brutally beating these dogs to death.
Will the NAACP then be compelled to condemn him more than if it was just guilt by association?
I was also surprised to see you said that he is viewed as a hero by younger kids (as I guess all sports stars are to a certain extent). What makes him a hero to black youth besides his athletic skill? I am also really surprised to hear that you think the comments of both Oprah (which I am not aware of) and Cosby have distanced the elder black community from the younger community. Can you please comment?
thanks,
Mike
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It’s funny The president of the Atlanta Chapter was on hot97 this morning, although princeton might be a few cities out of range.
To be honest about the NAACP I don’t know what stance they will take if he’s convicted. I could see them just stepping away quietly and stating that all they ever asked for was a fair trial. That would have been a great question for them to ask him this morning.
Vick is a young outstanding athlete, and as you said yourself just being an athlete alone sets you as a hero in many kids minds. Couple that with the fact that he had an extremely underprivelaged childhood and still made it. This is all he had to do to set himself as a hero. It’s not right, but as many frustrated athletes have realized its the way it is.
If I come to you and tell you your father is a criminal what is the first thing your going to say? Suppose you had no father and your heroes are athletes and rappers when somebody says something bad about them how do you expect them to act?
Oprah and Bill Cosby have way too many factors distancing themselves from the underprivelaged young black community.
- There old. Be honest who do you think a young person is going to accept advice from more, there father? or there GrandFather?
- Way too much money for way too long. Making it out of poor neighborhoods in 1950’s is way different then making it out of a poor neighborhood in the 90’s.
- Self-Entitlement that leads to lack of respect to young people.
Number 3 is most important, because when you say something respectfully whether correct or incorrect most people will try to listen. However, Bill Cosby and Oprah both because of 1 and 2 refuse to do this and spit in the face of the young black community.
I know many young black women raising kids by themselves, most have two jobs and the jobs they have don’t really care about what they have to do to be home for their kids.
This is a direct quote from Bill Cosby.
“I’m talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was two? Where were you when he was twelve? Where were you when he was eighteen, and how come you don’t know he had a pistol?”
What does this do?
- These kids fathers are not going to be there crying(they weren’t there), the mothers will.
- Your telling this mother who had to work 2 Jobs working how many hours to bring home $24000 a year living in NY/NJ area that this is her fault and stop crying. Yes she can stay home and not work but what will you say when her and her baby are homeless? To get off her ass and work? Love doesn’t pay bills, love doesn’t buy groceries.
- There are some ignorant people out there, by far the majority are not. Now you the previous black hero are condemning this working class mother in the same breath as all the ignorant ass people out there. Thats as bad as all the racist screaming all blacks are idiots.
- Killed what little self-esteem this woman has as it hurts alot more when your grandfather tells you you ain’t shit, then when some outsider does.
- You just told this 18 year old kid who is making right and wrong decisions in his life that his mother wasn’t there for him, and nobody loves him. Are you going to expect him to get out of jail and know what love is to raise a kid?
This can go on and on. It all boils down to this. I don’t think their intentions are wrong, but they have old people syndrome. They think they can say whatever they want because there 70.
