Velocity Inspired Diet

[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:

Whole foods almond butter and cashew butter both suck. They taste crappy and have the same calories as Skippy’s chunky PB 32g = 190 calories.

I will not buy it again. Give me JIF, Skippy’s, and Peter Pan PB anytime of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Hmm, I’m surprised - I really liked WF almond butter. I really like the JIF/Skippy/etc stuff, too, but often those brands have sugar or other oils blended into them as well if you check the ingredients, making them much smoother and creamier. Not a biggie, but it might be worth checking out if you are trying to be very strict on your macros.

Good thread, btw, keep sticking with it and posting progress. It’s nice to see sort of a “case study”, regardless of the approach.

[quote]yerba wrote:

Hmm, I’m surprised - I really liked WF almond butter. I really like the JIF/Skippy/etc stuff, too, but often those brands have sugar or other oils blended into them as well if you check the ingredients, making them much smoother and creamier. Not a biggie, but it might be worth checking out if you are trying to be very strict on your macros.

Good thread, btw, keep sticking with it and posting progress. It’s nice to see sort of a “case study”, regardless of the approach.[/quote]

I may be a sugar addict since the national brand PB taste to me a lot better. Also as you mentioned, the national brands tend to be smoother and creamier which helps with palatability.

Wow, my back is stiff and sore. The treadmill walk combined with leg workout really took its toll. I did ATG squats with only 225lbs 5x5 but it was hard for me.

I think I squat the deepest in my gym compared to the people that I see squatting (which is only a few in the first place). I am getting old… I think I will take a easy back workout day today.

Day 45 of diet 3/21/09.

Meal 1
2 scoops vanilla Metabolic Drive - 200 cals
140g frozen blueberries - 70
4 fish oil caps - 52
5g L-Leucine
4 BCAA tabs

Meal 2
2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel - 170 cals

Back workout

  1. db rows 50x8, 75x5, 100x5, 160x8,7,6,4 200x5
  2. pull downs 200x8, 250x5,5,5,5
  3. seated cable neutral grip wide rows 150x8, 200x8, 250x6,6
  4. standing cable pullovers with rope 70x12, 80x12, 90x10, 100x10
  5. ez-bar preacher curls 50x8, 70x4,4

Meal 3
2 scoops Surge Recovery - 325 cals
5g creatine
5g L-Leucine
4 BCAA tabs

Meal 4
2 halibut - 220 cals
1 crab cake - 190
183g sweet potato - 165
85g radish - 55

Meal 5
McDonald’s double cheeseburger - 440 cals
4 salmon oil caps - 40

Meal 6
251g mandarin orange - 133
1 slice bread - 130
32g almond butter - 190

10 BCAA tabs then
Walked on the treadmill 30+ minutes at 3.5mph. I got bored so I did a light chest workout.

Chest workout

  1. db bench press 50x8, 60x8, 70x8, 80x8, 90x8, 100x6, 105x3
  2. bb bench to neck (touch chin) 65x8, 95x8, 115x8, 135x6
  3. db flat flyes 25x8, 30x8, 35x8, 40x8, 45x8, 50x8, 55x6
  4. cable cross overs 60x8, 70x8, 80x8

Meal 7
McDonald’s double cheeseburger - 440 cals
4 Flame out - 52
10 BCAA tabs

Total for the day 2872 calories. Kind of high but I worked out twice today. I will tighten up diet tomorrow since there is no double cheeseburgers left.

14,000+ steps achieved.

Now a rant about Subway TRIPLE meat roast beef foot long sandwich. It sucked big time. The roast beef was so dry, it was like eating sand/wood chips. I bought a DOUBLE meat roast beef before and it was not that bad. Note to myself, NEVER buy TRIPLE meat and just stick to DOUBLE meat instead.

[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Note to myself, NEVER buy TRIPLE meat and just stick to DOUBLE meat instead.[/quote]

you don’t say

Fast food is fast food bro…even though Subway claims to be “healthy” the food is still garbage quality and actually pretty caloric. Good for bulking I guess…why would you be going there on the current Velocity inspired diet?

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Note to myself, NEVER buy TRIPLE meat and just stick to DOUBLE meat instead.

you don’t say[/quote]

Yeah, I was kind of surprised at how dry the roast beef was. Like I mentioned the DOUBLE meat was ok, but I guess I had more veggies in the DOUBLE that balanced it out, while the TRIPLE meat had less veggies per ratio to the meat.

[quote]phatkins187 wrote:
Fast food is fast food bro…even though Subway claims to be “healthy” the food is still garbage quality and actually pretty caloric. Good for bulking I guess…why would you be going there on the current Velocity inspired diet?[/quote]

Yes you are right. I try not to go to fast food places anymore. I forgot to bring my shake and I did not want to buy steak again, so I went to Subway (as many people call it Tubway).

I know I am supposed to keep a shaker and a bottle of MD at the office but I don’t feel comfortable doing that. I just have to pack my bag the previous night and not rush in the mornings to do that.

Today’s weigh in 220 lbs.

Day 46 of diet 3/22/09.

Meal 1
2 scoops vanilla MD - 200 cals
224g apple - 116
140g frozen blueberries - 70
4 fish oil caps - 52
5g leucine
4 BCAA tabs

Meal 2
2 slices of bread - 260 cals
32g cashew butter - 190
32g Skippy chunky PB - 190
4 salmon oil caps - 40

Meal 3
1 scoop Surge workout fuel - 85 cals
10 BCAA tabs

Walked on the treadmill for 35+minutes at 3.1 mph.

Shoulder workout

  1. db seated press 35x8, 45x8, 55x8, 65x8, 75x7,7,6,5
  2. one arm bb press 45x8, 70x8, 95x6, 95x5
  3. bb shrugs 225x8, 315x8, 405x8, 495x8
  4. seated rear delt machine 70x8, 105x8, 135x7, 120x7
  5. db straight are laterals 15x8, 10x10, 15x8,8

Meal 4
10 BCAA tabs
1 halibut - 110 cals
1 orange roughy - 129
1 crab cake - 190
1T coconut oil - 120
85g radish - 55
250g strawberries - 80

Meal 5
2 scoops chocolate MD - 220 cals
4 Flameout - 52

Total for the day 2159 calories.

11,000+ steps achieved.

Mate are you doing body measurements as well? I think that would be a good idea because weight loss doesn’t tell the whole story.

[quote]jacross wrote:
Mate are you doing body measurements as well? I think that would be a good idea because weight loss doesn’t tell the whole story.[/quote]

You are right again. Unfortunately I have not kept any measurements because of pure laziness. I know I started the diet with a 45 inch waist at the belly button level, but that’s about it. For now I am just trying to keep track of progress by scale weight and photos that I take every 2 weeks, but I think it is a good idea for me to start taking some measurements. However knowing my lazy self, I doubt I will take any measurements any time soon - mostly relying on the pics.

I got the idea from Shelby/Justin at Troponin Nutrition/Elitefts about going by pics. They do email consultations of client’s diet plans and make adjustments based on the weekly photos the clients submit. Of course, I am not an expert like they are, but I think for my purposes of only getting a six-pack (10% bodyfat) vs. their clients (3-5% body fat - for bodybuilding competitions) it does not take an expert eye to evaluate (myself).

Day 47 of diet 3/23/09.

Meal 1
2 scoops vanilla Metabolic Drive - 200 cals
46g broccoli - 16
19g carrot - 8
75g cucumber - 11
67g pumpkin - 13
22g radish - 4
154g tomato - 28
4 fish oil caps - 52
5g L-Leucine
5 BCAA tabs

Meal 2
274g hamburger ~ 759 (guesstimate using USDA database)
252g lettuce - 43
1oz gravy - 15
1oz vinigrette ~ 80

Walked on the treadmill 36+ minutes at 3.2-3.5mphs (total was 2.5 miles)

Meal 3
22g california roll ~ 81 (calorieking)
39g maki roll ~ 41
22g unagi roll ~ 54
24g shrimp roll ~ 60
30g tuna roll ~ 77
81g eel/shrimp roll ~ 207

Meal 4
NOTHING…:frowning:

Fell asleep until the next morning, I guess I was more tired than usual.

Total for the day 1749 calories.

12,000+ steps achieved.

Well I think it might be a good motivational tool, plus it will give us some really good quantitative measurements of your progress.

Even if you just do a belly and a chest, I think that would be worthwhile.

[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:

I got the idea from Shelby/Justin at Troponin Nutrition/Elitefts about going by pics. They do email consultations of client’s diet plans and make adjustments based on the weekly photos the clients submit. Of course, I am not an expert like they are, but I think for my purposes of only getting a six-pack (10% bodyfat) vs. their clients (3-5% body fat - for bodybuilding competitions) it does not take an expert eye to evaluate (myself).[/quote]

I have a lot of doubts about this method.

Now, while probably everyone has confidence in themselves in this sort of thing, I base my opinion of reasonable self-accuracy on having done hundreds of bodycomps by skinfold and having gotten, midway through that, to the point where my initial opinion was almost invariably reasonably close to what the calculation wound up showing. Not from pictures, but in-person viewing.

That doesn’t mean my eyeball opinion is necessarily accurate with regard to true amount of bodyfat, but at least it has been generally fairly accurate with regard to bodyfat as estimated by skinfold measurement.

But many other people’s estimations, I am not so sure about.

For example there was a thread here from a novice trainer who was quite overfat and had added almost no muscle. From his pics I am pretty confident of 30% bodyfat being a reasonable estimate – if anything, a low estimate.

Yet everyone else on the thread was practically howling that it would be foolish for him to worry about losing fat: he needed to bulk up!

Some even claimed that one of my posts, which used a figure of 30% bodyfat with reference to a given psychology, had no relevance whatsoever. Some, while expressing opinion that going past 20% bf is unreasonable, seemed to completely think that that had no application to this fellow as he just wasn’t that fat.

I mean this guy was way fat, but just about everyone on the forum who saw the pics and posted thought that he could afford to eat for mass and should not cut first. (Regardless that novices can typically lose fat and gain muscle as the same time.)

So either of two things is the case:

  1. Lots of people cannot judge bf at all accurately from pictures (if granting I was right), or

  2. A person with a pretty good amount of direct experience at it, getting feedback hundreds of times on whether his eyeball estimate was correct or wrong, can be severely far off.

Either way, there’s reason to have doubt about any given person’s ability to judge accurately by pictures.

Grossly qualitatively, yes… no one will mistake obese from ripped, or vice versa.

But for example, you had thought, from pics, your starting point was the same as CT’s starting point. That was not correct.

Taking some quantitative measurements will help guide you as to what is happening as well as give you means of some reasonable estimation of how far remains to go and how fast your progresss is towards attaining some given goal.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:

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Quick Hi-Jack
Bill I sent you a PM concerning a supp. Could you give me your take on it. I am waiting to place an order.
/hi-jack

I’m sorry, I’ve fallen way behind on PM’s. It is really too late to make a dent in them tonight – it’ll have to be tomorrow for most of them – but I’ll get to yours now.

jacross and Bill, thank you for your advice. I will try to take measurements on Saturdays, hopefully my brother will help me out.

By the way, on the waist, as the exact way of standing and holding oneself considerably affects the measurement, it’s important to decide on a specific way of doing it that you can be very repeatable with.

It doesn’t hurt, though it’s added trouble, to also have backup measurements by different method.

So you might have:

  1. “Normal good posture.” This might be your standard reference measurement, the one you consider your true value.

  2. Vacuumed, “sucked in” measurement – the smallest you can make your waist.

  3. Blown out: the biggest you can push the belly out.

What you would really care about is measurement 1. And you wouldn’t have to take measurements 2 and/or 3 most of the time.

But if you noticed, for example, that your main measurement was not changing or even got bigger, yet the other measurements dropped substantially – or vice versa – then you would know that the trouble was that the way you were holding yourself was changing.

Because it’s a shame to think you’ve lost nothing when in fact you’ve lost an inch, or vice versa, due to holding oneself differently.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
By the way, on the waist, as the exact way of standing and holding oneself considerably affects the measurement, it’s important to decide on a specific way of doing it that you can be very repeatable with.

It doesn’t hurt, though it’s added trouble, to also have backup measurements by different method.

So you might have:

  1. “Normal good posture.” This might be your standard reference measurement, the one you consider your true value.

  2. Vacuumed, “sucked in” measurement – the smallest you can make your waist.

  3. Blown out: the biggest you can push the belly out.

What you would really care about is measurement 1. And you wouldn’t have to take measurements 2 and/or 3 most of the time.

But if you noticed, for example, that your main measurement was not changing or even got bigger, yet the other measurements dropped substantially – or vice versa – then you would know that the trouble was that the way you were holding yourself was changing.

Because it’s a shame to think you’ve lost nothing when in fact you’ve lost an inch, or vice versa, due to holding oneself differently.[/quote]

Will try to do all three on Saturdays.

I fell asleep before my last meal yesterday. It might be in my head (placebo effect) but cutting down on Surge Workout Fuel (to save some calories) seemed to hamper my recovery a bit. It might be the fact that I am walking on the treadmill at least 30 minutes everyday that is making recovery harder, but we will see if my body adjusts.

Day 48 of diet 3/24/09.

Meal 1
2 scoops vanilla Metabolic Drive - 200 cals
228g apple - 119
15g broccoli - 5
9g carrot - 4
35g cucumber - 5
122g strawberry - 39
106g tomato - 19
4 fish oil caps - 52
5g L-Leucine
4 BCAA tabs

Walked to Walmart and back to work at lunch time. Total trip about 3.5 miles, which took 1 hour and 15 minutes round trip. Got pedometer into the 9000+ steps with this walk.

Meal 2
2 scoops chocolate Metabolic Drive - 200 cals
30g cashews - 170
5g L-Leucine

Meal 3
2 scoops Surge Workout Fuel - 170 cals
10 BCAA tabs

Chest workout

  1. db incline press - 30x15, 40x8, 50x8, 75x8,8,7,5,5,5
  2. pushups - b.w.x8, 25x8, 35x8, 45x7, 45x6
  3. decline skull crushers - 70x8, 110x8, 115x8, 135x4
  4. cable flyes - 50x8, 70x8, 90x8, 100x6

Meal 4
2 scoops Surge Recovery - 325 cals
5g creatine
5g L-Leucine
4 BCAA tabs

Meal 5
3 halibut - 330 cals
1 crab cake - 190
151g sweet potato - 136
85g radish - 55

Meal 6
2 scoops strawberry MD - 220 cals
4 Flameout - 52

Total for the day 2291 calories.

14,000+ steps achieved.

Tomorrow is my mom’s birthday - time for a CHEAT day…Yeah…That’s what I’m talking about.