Velocity Inspired Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]pja wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Thanks for your advice Chris, I agree with most of what you are saying. However, I want to give what I am currently doing at least until the end of September (3 more weeks) and evaluate it then.

I guess it is a little bit about sibling rivalry. My brother is doing a low-carb, moderate fat and high protein diet at the moment. He is seeing results and thinks that it is the low-carb part of the diet that is doing most of the work. I am trying (and failing) to prove to him that it is his lower levels of caloric intake that really mattered and not low-carb or low-fat or such nonsense.

That is one of the reasons I want to continue and incorporate junk food into my diet (within reason) and prove I still can lose weight. I want to prove that it really is all about calories (provided enough protein) and not just the composition of said calories that creates the overall effect.

How convenient…

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I hate to break it to you but you aren’t actually on a “diet” you basically eat whatever whenever like most people who have never stepped in a weight room or read anything about dieting do.

Quite honestly this should be in the Get a life section, it isint really even about dieting or bodybuilding, it would be like if i made a log about trying to get better at golf by driving cars to and from the golf range sometimes and then wrote about it here everyday so people oculd “motivate me”

Dude, pick ONE really simple diet, even one off the oprah show, then pick ONE training program, maybe even from the same show and you will achieve infinitely better results than what you are doing right now

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Day 217 of diet 9/9/09 Wednesday.

Meal 1
2 scoops whey protein - 260 cals
1 scoop vanilla Metabolic Drive - 100
105g banana - 93
218g tomato - 39
91g kiwi - 56
4 fit fish oil caps - 40

Meal 2
2 scoops whey protein - 260 cals
1 oz Doritos nacho cheese - 140
4 fit fish oil caps - 40

Meal 3
2 scoops whey protein - 260 cals
Nature Valley trail mix bar - 140

Meal 4 (pre workout)
2 scoops whey protein - 260 cals
2 Rice Krispies - 180
5g creatine
5g L-leucine

Leg/hip workout

  1. RDL 45x8, 95x7, 135x6, 185x5, 225x4, 275x3, 315x2, 385x5
  2. natural GHR b.w. x 3,3,3,3
  3. Single leg curls 40x6, 50x5, 60x4, 80x5
  4. incline leg raises b.w. x 5,5,5,5
  5. seated calf raises 45x10, 70x10, 90x10

Meal 5
2 scoops whey protein - 260 cals
195g microwaved potato - 195
5g creatine
5g L-leucine

Meal 6
1 scoop whey protein - 130 cals
1 scoop vanilla Metabolic Drive - 100
1 seawead - 30
1 pickle - 25
4 Flame out - 52

Fitday Macros:
Protein 388.4 (58%)
Carbs 200.3 (29%)
Fiber 18.7
Fats 39.8 (13%)
Total calories 2660.

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[quote]stevo_ wrote:

I hate to break it to you but you aren’t actually on a “diet” you basically eat whatever whenever like most people who have never stepped in a weight room or read anything about dieting do.
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I disagree. I am on a diet because I am eating less calories than I would normally eat. My “cheat” day was a normal day of eating for me in the past. I was not full from any of the meals that I ate on 9/3/09. If people think that they get fat from eating less than at least double their maintenance calories - people need to wake up.

This should NOT be in the Get a Life section because I actually do work out. I exercise at least 10 hours per week. If I did not exercised and then only wrote about my dieting failures, then it should be in the GAL forum.

Yes, I agree my results are poor and any criticism is valid because of my poor results. However, I did pick a simple diet - eat at least 300g of protein and less then 3400/3100 calories per day. It is my adherence to this simple diet that is the issue, and not the diet itself. As for the body part split that I am doing, I am just following what my brother is doing at the moment.

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
I don’t usually post on journals/logs because they’re frustrating as all get-out, but I had to chime in here because it’s been going on for so long.

I checked your pics on page one and your recent pics on page 20. In 28 weeks and 40 pounds, that’s just unimpressive progress.

You’ve reduced the gut, sure, but you’ve added minimal visible muscle. I’m not sure how your strength has changed, but the bottom line is that your combination of diet and training is not as productive as it could/should be. People have made even more dramatic changes to their physique in half the time you’ve been working on it.

You’re spinning your wheels, man. Your training is inefficient, to say the least. I sketched out your last week’s program:

Mon: 1 hour afternoon cardio; Back
Tues: Biceps
Weds: 1 hour afternoon cardio; Hamstrings, calves, abs
Thurs: 1 hour afternoon cardio; Chest
Fri: Back
Sat: 1 hour morning cardio; Shoulders
Sun: Quads, calves, abs.

It’s all over the place with no focus. With the resources on this site, you have zero excuses not to be following a proven training program. There have been dozens of programs designed by professional coaches to build muscle and burn fat. Why you’re not sticking to one, I don’t know.

That leads us to your diet, which, to be perfectly honest, absolutely fucking sucks.

That Jamie Hale article about “eating junk food and getting lean” was the last thing you needed to read, because you heard it as permission to gorge on shit as long as you reach your protein and total calories. Despite what Hale says, successful dieting doesn’t work that way for the overwhelming majority of people. You are not a unique snowflake, and you should follow a nutrition plan that’s been shown to work time and time again.

And by the way, if it was up to me, you wouldn’t get a cheat day each week, let alone the monstrous free-for-alls you allow yourself. I generally believe that you’ve got to earn your cheats and, depending on how much you’ve got left to lose, it might be a single cheat meal, not a cheat day. (But that’s getting us sidetracked from my overall point.)

You’re eating three slices of pizza, having ice cream twice a day, you’re eating candy bars before your workouts (rice krispie treats are candy bars, don’t try to convince yourself otherwise), and you’ve got the balls to still say you’re dieting? Those are grande cajones, mi amigo. Muy grande cajones.

You really need to snap to attention man, realign your perspectives, and sincerely crack down at getting things in order on all levels. Otherwise we can look expect to see “Day 366 of diet, 2/6/10” and you’ll look basically the same as you did on day one… and the only reason that’ll happen is if you allow it to. If you don’t change what you’re doing, that is the path you’re headed.

Just in case you’re misunderstanding me, I’m not pissed at you, I’m pissed at the situation you’ve put yourself in. It’s 100% fixable, but you’ve got to try.[/quote]

What an excellent post by Chris C.

I just hope that the velocity-inspired Rice Krispies treats eventually get the pedestal treatment they deserve.

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[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
stevo_ wrote:

I hate to break it to you but you aren’t actually on a “diet” you basically eat whatever whenever like most people who have never stepped in a weight room or read anything about dieting do.

I disagree. I am on a diet because I am eating less calories than I would normally eat. My “cheat” day was a normal day of eating for me in the past. I was not full from any of the meals that I ate on 9/3/09. If people think that they get fat from eating less than at least double their maintenance calories - people need to wake up.

Quite honestly this should be in the Get a life section, it isn’t really even about dieting or bodybuilding, it would be like if i made a log about trying to get better at golf by driving cars to and from the golf range sometimes and then wrote about it here everyday so people could “motivate me”

This should NOT be in the Get a Life section because I actually do work out. I exercise at least 10 hours per week. If I did not exercised and then only wrote about my dieting failures, then it should be in the GAL forum.

Dude, pick ONE really simple diet, even one off the Oprah show, then pick ONE training program, maybe even from the same show and you will achieve infinitely better results than what you are doing right now

Yes, I agree my results are poor and any criticism is valid because of my poor results. However, I did pick a simple diet - eat at least 300g of protein and less then 3400/3100 calories per day. It is my adherence to this simple diet that is the issue, and not the diet itself. As for the body part split that I am doing, I am just following what my brother is doing at the moment.
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My post came off a lot more aggressive than it sounded in my head. Im not trying to give you shit, i’m just trying to get you to see the light. Dieting fucking sucks, the last thing you want to do is make it take 3 years when it could be done in 3 months of actual hard work.

Good luck

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Whenever I run out of Surge Workout Fuel and/or FINiBARs (which is rare), the next best thing for peri-workout nutrition is 2 Rice Krispies treats and whey protein.

Please try it out for yourself and experience the massive awesome pump!

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[quote]stevo_ wrote:

Good luck[/quote]

Thanks. As many have already previously posted, this is a public forum and if I did not want any criticism I should stop posting or make better progress and not spin my wheels.

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[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
I guess it is a little bit about sibling rivalry. My brother is doing a low-carb, moderate fat and high protein diet at the moment. He is seeing results and thinks that it is the low-carb part of the diet that is doing most of the work. I am trying (and failing) to prove to him that it is his lower levels of caloric intake that really mattered and not low-carb or low-fat or such nonsense.

That is one of the reasons I want to continue and incorporate junk food into my diet (within reason) and prove I still can lose weight. I want to prove that it really is all about calories (provided enough protein) and not just the composition of said calories that creates the overall effect.[/quote]

So is your primary goal to shed significant bodyfat?

Or is your primary goal more about being right and proving your brother wrong?

Because the way you’re headed, you just might accomplish neither.

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My primary goal was to shed fat, but I changed my focus because of my brother’s strict eating habits and my jealousy/envy in regards to his self control. I want to prove him wrong so badly. You are right, at the moment I am feeling that I will accomplish neither goal, especially as he is a moving target - getting slowly leaner almost every month. It is getting harder to catch up to him, I guess I have to start doing my double cardio again.

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I admire the desire to stick it to your bro. And I admire simple plans.

What’s your brothers height/weight, and importantly, how many cals is he eating a day?

3100 cals seems like a high number of cals for a serious cut. Maybe make the target around 2500 cal. Yes, you’ll feel like you’re going to die.

And compliance with the diet (whatever it is) is vital if you’re going to prove your brother wrong. Ordering 2 loco mocos at lunch would not only ruin your deficit for the day, but it would also make the competition scientifically invalid. Do it for the science, man.

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Here is a pic of my brother’s relaxed forearm. Like me he was a fatty, but got better results than I did because of his adherence to his diet (not because of low-carb I still contend).

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I have read almost all of your log, and it does seem you want to lose weight.

I think you should forget about pride and reread the post Chris made. Just follow something that we know works. Stop doing everything so complex. I really like Biotest and it’s products. But I don’t think you need Finibars and or Surge Recovery. Just have a normal protein shake before/after your workouts.

You say you don’t want to throw away food because you are already wasting alot of money. But if you dropped some of the more expensive supplements and the takeout food and started cooking your own food at home I think you would save money and lose weight faster.

I mean if you would just buy some nice pieces of meat and some spices you would be all set, it doesn’t take very long to BBQ.

Best of luck

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Week 31 measurements vs. week 30 measurements.

Weight 194.5 lbs (0 lbs) No change, was disappointed at first but see below for my stupid excuse/explanation.

Waist normal 35.75" (0") No change
Waist vacuum 32.5" (0") No change
Waist push out 37" (+0.5") damn it

I was disappointed that I did not lose any weight this past week, but I remembered that I cheated this week. An analysis of my calories during this past week:

9/2/09 - 3109 calories
9/3/09 - 8374
9/4/09 - 2748
9/5/09 - 3285
9/6/09 - 6640
9/7/09 - 2853
9/8/09 - 2461

Total = 29,470 / 7 = 4210 calories per day. My caloric limit was 3400 per day if I exercised 2 hours and 3100 per day when I did only 1 hour/rest day. I did not adhere to my caloric limits and thus I should be grateful that I did not gain weight and at least stayed the same weight.

I will do better until Halloween when my brother said it will be his next cheat day. It is ironic that I am somewhat lactose intolerant but bought 3 different kinds of ice cream from Costco in an effort to sabotage my brother’s progress. Ice cream is his favorite junk food so I thought he would break (at least once).

Alas he did not break at all and eats junk food only on his designated cheat days (birthdays, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas and/or New Years day). I am the one sabotaging myself obviously, see 9/6/09 when I ate 6640 calories.

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[quote]EasyRhino wrote:
I admire the desire to stick it to your bro. And I admire simple plans.

What’s your brothers height/weight, and importantly, how many cals is he eating a day?

3100 cals seems like a high number of cals for a serious cut. Maybe make the target around 2500 cal. Yes, you’ll feel like you’re going to die.

And compliance with the diet (whatever it is) is vital if you’re going to prove your brother wrong. Ordering 2 loco mocos at lunch would not only ruin your deficit for the day, but it would also make the competition scientifically invalid. Do it for the science, man.[/quote]

He is 5’9.5" but I don’t know his weight (I am sure he weighs less than me though). He does not count calories at all, so I have no idea what his daily intake is. However, he started to eat progressively less carbs - started with eliminating noodles, then potatoes, white rice, etc… So I argued with him he is just eating less calories because he replaced high calorie carbs with vegetables. His point is that it might be iso-caloric because he INCREASED his fat intake, and that the carbs were reduced overall in his diet, allowing him to make further progress.

He exercises about 50 - 75% of what I do per week - he only weight trains doing zero cardio. His strength is almost the same as mine (I feel I am stronger but with crappier form) - for example last night we did barbell RDLs. For my working set I did 385 x 5 while he did 385 x 4, but with way better form. My form turned into SLDL seems like. As long as my brother is leaner than me, I will never give up dieting, no matter what.

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[quote]wiiwii wrote:
I have read almost all of your log, and it does seem you want to lose weight.

I think you should forget about pride and reread the post Chris made. Just follow something that we know works. Stop doing everything so complex. I really like Biotest and it’s products. But I don’t think you need Finibars and or Surge Recovery. Just have a normal protein shake before/after your workouts.

You say you don’t want to throw away food because you are already wasting alot of money. But if you dropped some of the more expensive supplements and the takeout food and started cooking your own food at home I think you would save money and lose weight faster.

I mean if you would just buy some nice pieces of meat and some spices you would be all set, it doesn’t take very long to BBQ.

Best of luck

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Thanks for the suggestions.

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Day 218 of diet 9/10/09 Thursday.

Meal 1
2 scoops whey protein - 270 cals
1 scoop vanilla Metabolic Drive - 100
104g grapes - 72
248g tomatoes - 45
4 fit fish oil caps - 40

Meal 2
2 scoops whey protein - 270 cals
Nature Valley PB bar - 170
Baby Ruth fun sized - 85
2 fit fish oil caps - 20

Meal 3
2 scoops whey protein - 270 cals
Nature Valley trail mix bar - 140
Almond Joy fun sized - 80

Meal 4 (pre workout)
2 scoops whey protein - 270 cals
1 Rice Krispies treat - 90
5g creatine
5g L-leucine

Back/rowing workout

  1. HS iso lateral row 90x10, 180x8, 270x6, 360x4, 450x2, 540x12
  2. db rows 100x8, 125x15
  3. seated cable rows 150x8, 200x8, 250x10
  4. face pulls 50x10, 75x10, 100x10, 125x10, 150x10
  5. single arm cable pull overs 50x8, 60x8, 70x8, 80x8

Meal 5
2 scoops whey protein - 270 cals
397g microwaved potato - 397
5g creatine
5g L-leucine

Meal 6
1 scoop whey protein - 135 cals
1 scoop vanilla Metabolic Drive - 100
seaweed - 30
pickle - 25
4 Flame out - 52

FitDay macros:
Protein 394.0 (53%)
Carbs 242.5 (33%)
Fiber 24.8
Fats 47.2 (14%)
Total calories 2930.

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[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
It is getting harder to catch up to him, I guess I have to start doing my double cardio again.[/quote]

Yes… more exercise is the answer to your situation.

Show me where a qualified, successful fitness professional agrees with your statement, and I’ll personally mail you a bottle of Metabolic Drive.

High fructose corn syrup-laden candy bars are “the next best thing” to specifically-designed high-end sports supplements, especially for someone in your condition with your goals? Are we saying that with a straight face?

For my own sanity, I have to tap out of this thread. I’ll check back when/if the title is re-named “Velocity Inspired Diet: I Reached My Goals.”

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[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Whenever I run out of Surge Workout Fuel and/or FINiBARs (which is rare), the next best thing for peri-workout nutrition is 2 Rice Krispies treats and whey protein.

Please try it out for yourself and experience the massive awesome pump!
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Mike, here’s the problem.

You see the banner for this forum? It says “The Intelligent and Relentless Pursuit of Muscle”.

Your journey has followed neither of those adjectives and that is why you find, given your lackluster progress, those who are upset with your thread. Had it not gone on so long, I would have been convinced myself that it was a carefully orchestrated troll job.

If you’re serious about your progress - you’ll get serious about what you eat and your program. You’ve done neither.

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

For my own sanity, I have to tap out of this thread. I’ll check back when/if the title is re-named “Velocity Inspired Diet: I Reached My Goals.”[/quote]

I will send you a PM when I reach my goal - a clear six pack with photographic proof. Until then, we will have to agree to disagree in regards to peri nutrition.

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I’m disappointed with the lack of scientific method in the contest with your brother.

He is eating an unknown amount of calories. You are exercising differently. Your diet has more cheats.

Since there’s nothing to be gained for science, what you need to do is win. Eat a cleaner diet, cut out the cheating, and then just tell your brother that you’re eating crap all the time, and then when the fat flies off you can taunt him.