V for Vendetta Review

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
cap’nsalty wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
vermilion wrote:
I’m sure Alan Moore hated it. He’s probably sitting at home right now, weeping into huge piles of cash…

I’ll wait for DVD as, my Moore jibe aside, there’s just no way it can live up to the book.

Indeed, it’s always tough to see a movie after you’ve read the book upon which it is based, due to the fact that you form your own images in your mind as you read the book, and it’s odd to see your images contradicted with someone else’s onscreen.

That stated, however, I think this movie does just about as good a job as putting powerful images to a novel as I’ve seen, besides maybe Lord of The Rings.

It’s a comic book.

What does the fact that it’s a comic book mean?

A work of fiction’s medium doesn’t have any bearing upon its relevance/worth.

Comic books have won the pulitzer prize.

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Someone else has already explained why what you said is irrelevant, but for the record I think The Watchmen is one of the greatest works of fiction I have ever read.

I’m sorry that this is a forum where everything has to be spelled out word for word. What you call “telepathy” I call “intelligence.”

And in keeping with the real topic at hand, V for Vendetta (the movie and the comic book) was completely rocking. Highly recommended. They don’t try to force some strange interpretation on it, and while there are some reference to GW, they aren’t forced, they fit in well, and I didn’t feel like the movie was trying to shove some political message down my throat.

In particular I really liked the scene at the end that the Wachowski brothers added (correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think it’s in the comic) with everyone gathered in front of the parliament building.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:

I’d probably let this go, but I have a reputation to protect:

Never played one minute of Dungeons and Dragons.

Also never liked Star Trek.

I did, however, play trombone in the high school band. I also spent pretty much the entire weekend bagging, boarding, categorizing, and alphabetizing faaaaaaaar too many long boxes full of comics.

So–geek, yes. D&D geek, no.

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Sorry man, didn’t mean to attack your nerd cred…no Star Trek or D&D.

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I’ve heard a bunch of “controversy” concerning V for Vendetta’s correlation to the current Bush administration.

Am I the only one who saw a much stronger parallel between the rise to, and then abuse of power of the government leader in V and Adolf Hitler with Nazi Germany?

I mean, the brainwashing of citizens to make them believe they are dependant on you for survival, the testing/torturing of civilians, the propaganda, the intolerance, so on and so forth…

I dunno, I was making comparisons to Nazi Germany the whole time I was watching that… maybe I’m just not George Bush obsessed to the point that I find the need to twist every single thing that might have a slight political theme into a political statement against our current regime…

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
I’ve heard a bunch of “controversy” concerning V for Vendetta’s correlation to the current Bush administration.

Am I the only one who saw a much stronger parallel between the rise to, and then abuse of power of the government leader in V and Adolf Hitler with Nazi Germany?

I mean, the brainwashing of citizens to make them believe they are dependant on you for survival, the testing/torturing of civilians, the propaganda, the intolerance, so on and so forth…

I dunno, I was making comparisons to Nazi Germany the whole time I was watching that… maybe I’m just not George Bush obsessed to the point that I find the need to twist every single thing that might have a slight political theme into a political statement against our current regime…

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I think those obsessed with Bush will see Bush in it. In fact, I believe that if there are parallels to this current administration, it should mean we need to take a long hard look at where we are headed instead of try to tear down the movie for pointing it out.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think those obsessed with Bush will see Bush in it. In fact, I believe that if there are parallels to this current administration, it should mean we need to take a long hard look at where we are headed instead of try to tear down the movie for pointing it out.[/quote]

Especially as the story was written a quarter century ago. If the story seems apropos, that is the fault of real life, not the writer.

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The reason you’re seeing parallels to Nazi Germany is because that is largely what it was based on, well facism in general. Fascism is about centralising power, usually under a single dictator and enforcing that power through fear and intimidation. Nationalism and racism are almost always strong components as well, making the citizens afraid of each other just as much as they’re afraid of the gov’t.

When the story was written Bush was still snorting coke and driving around Texas with a bottle of whiskey between is knees. Moore was watching the riots taking place all around England and seeing the growing sense of nationalism, particularly the violence and discrimination being directed at pakistani and other muslim immigrants and wondered, ‘what would happen if fascism took hold here?’ He really didn’t give a shit about the US and someone who whouldn’t rise to prominence for another 2 15 years or so wasn’t anywhere on his radar.

Even the Wachowski Brothers, when they made the movie, avoided adding any parallels to current American society. From what I’ve read about them and the interviews I’ve seen, and of course the content of the Matrix movies, they’re nihilists and of course anarchists, much like V, much like Moore himself. So, no conspiracy, no propaganda, nothing to do with Republicans, Conservatives, Liberals, Democrats, etc, nothing at all.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I think those obsessed with Bush will see Bush in it. In fact, I believe that if there are parallels to this current administration, it should mean we need to take a long hard look at where we are headed instead of try to tear down the movie for pointing it out.[/quote]

I’m not obsessed with Bush but I did make comparisons with our current government. But that can be said for almost any “government” that is looking for more “control.” So the corolations are easy but not specific to any one gov’t. But I think the red and black colors were chosen for some reason…

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
But I think the red and black colors were chosen for some reason…[/quote]

Because the Wachowski Brothers hate the mounties?

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[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
But I think the red and black colors were chosen for some reason…

Because the Wachowski Brothers hate the mounties?
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Or the Chicago Bulls

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In the house of Portman’s character’s boss their was a piece of black listed art hanging in the background in his secret room. It was a picture/painting of an amalgamation of the Union Jack, the Nazi flag and their current (in the movie) black and red British flag.

The picture was only shown for a second or two but I guess it was enough for everyone to make the connection, whether they realized they saw it or not. Or you all didn’t see it but this just confirms that you are all really smart.

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I don’t get it. I just saw the movie and I thought it was pretty damn boring. And it didn’t make me care at all.

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Here is a case of life imitating art:

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will likely profit handsomely from the announcement the government is purchasing $2 billion of Tamiflu, the drug developed by Gilead Sciences when Rumsfeld was president of the company. He is reported to hold major portions of stock in Gilead

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Oh, glad I don’t jave to worry about a flu that has been identified as at least “medium-shitty” bad if it could transfer human to human.

Oh, and it’s not like influenza strains have ever caused any kind of epidemic before, right?

The Spanish flu was a “Scare” too.

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I saw this recently, and although I had no idea about the background of V or anything, the movie could have been better.

It was a bit long and didn’t have enough action during several parts. Some of the story was a little annoying or played out. I liked the overall message, and some of it was funny or true in some regards as to how things are going in life today, but I wouldn’t give this a high rating or “two thumbs up.” It’s worth seeing, but it would probably make a better DVD rental rather than seeing it in the theater.

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Wow, I just got done watching this movie and was about to start my own thread about it, then did a search.

I loved it, personally.

I didn’t realize it’s been out for so long.

This will be one of the few DVDs that I buy.

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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
I’ve heard a bunch of “controversy” concerning V for Vendetta’s correlation to the current Bush administration.

Am I the only one who saw a much stronger parallel between the rise to, and then abuse of power of the government leader in V and Adolf Hitler with Nazi Germany?

I mean, the brainwashing of citizens to make them believe they are dependant on you for survival, the testing/torturing of civilians, the propaganda, the intolerance, so on and so forth…

I dunno, I was making comparisons to Nazi Germany the whole time I was watching that… maybe I’m just not George Bush obsessed to the point that I find the need to twist every single thing that might have a slight political theme into a political statement against our current regime…

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I didn’t read all the reviews in this thread yet, but I was thinking about Nazi Germany more than I was thinking about Bush, but I find it sad that I was still thinking about Bush, and the current administration.

For me, I don’t think it’s an obsession with Bush personally, I just have a sour taste in my mouth with our govt. in general, even before Bush came in. Amplified by my time in the Navy.

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[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
I don’t get it. I just saw the movie and I thought it was pretty damn boring. And it didn’t make me care at all.[/quote]

Funny, I felt like the movie grabbed me by the balls. It really felt like a movie, unlike so much crap that’s out these days.

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[quote]colonelquack wrote:
Natural Nate wrote:
I don’t get it. I just saw the movie and I thought it was pretty damn boring. And it didn’t make me care at all.

Funny, I felt like the movie grabbed me by the balls. It really felt like a movie, unlike so much crap that’s out these days.

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When you go into a theatre and get grabbed by the balls while watching a movie, that’s not the movie grabbing you by the balls. Hope this helps.

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[quote]slimjim wrote:
I thought it was pretty weak. Over the top drama-wise, and a bit too weepy for me. I liked the idea and overall message, but just thought everything was a bit too contrived.

As a caveat, I’ll never look at Natalie Portman the same with that shaved head, she looked like a little boy…slap a sailor suit on her and I’d be all over her.[/quote]

lol, you damn sailors never cease to amaze me.

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it is the best movie of the last years.

someone may start thinking looking at this kind of movie