[quote]Old Bailey wrote:
Alan Moore hated any of his work being adapted into movies, he even refused any money from this film.
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If this is the case, how did anyone get the rights to do the movie? Money had to exchange hands somewhere… or someone got robbed and should therefore be suing…
Can Ultraviolet be worst than Aeon Flux?
Anyways, saw V for Vendetta. Very good movie, although it has less action than I thought it would. And a lesbian side story that just seems forced, adding a tad too many flashbacks during that part. Just looked like one of the W brothers giving more exposure to his views.
[quote]FlawlessCowboy wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
I counted around 10 people who walked out of it.
Do people really do this? I mean c’mon, with the price you pay, how can one not stay to the bitter end?
-FC
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The last movie I walked out of was the Batman movie with Danny DeVito as the Penguin. What a pile of dogshit.
There is something liberating about walking out of a movie. It feels like calling in sick or skipping class to go do something fun.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
FlawlessCowboy wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
I counted around 10 people who walked out of it.
Do people really do this? I mean c’mon, with the price you pay, how can one not stay to the bitter end?
-FC
The last movie I walked out of was the Batman movie with Danny DeVito as the Penguin. What a pile of dogshit.
There is something liberating about walking out of a movie. It feels like calling in sick or skipping class to go do something fun.
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It is not truly satisfying unless you can convince the ticket counter that you deserve your money back and free tickets for the next movie you see based on how crappy it was. I did this for the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy…which is about as close to cinematic dog shit as you can get.
[quote]marcusxavier wrote:
Can Ultraviolet be worst than Aeon Flux?
Anyways, saw V for Vendetta. Very good movie, although it has less action than I thought it would. And a lesbian side story that just seems forced, adding a tad too many flashbacks during that part. Just looked like one of the W brothers giving more exposure to his views.[/quote]
That side story is word for word from the original, and is central to the most important point of the overall story.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It is not truly satisfying unless you can convince the ticket counter that you deserve your money back and free tickets for the next movie you see based on how crappy it was. I did this for the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy…which is about as close to cinematic dog shit as you can get.[/quote]
They gave you your money back? I did this for Final Destination but not because it sucked but because the screen was as big as my old big screen TV!
[quote]PGA200X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
It is not truly satisfying unless you can convince the ticket counter that you deserve your money back and free tickets for the next movie you see based on how crappy it was. I did this for the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy…which is about as close to cinematic dog shit as you can get.
They gave you your money back? I did this for Final Destination but not because it sucked but because the screen was as big as my old big screen TV![/quote]
Hey, that movie sucked to the point that I should have got a season pass.
[quote]Blood is Metal wrote:
Old Bailey wrote:
Alan Moore hated any of his work being adapted into movies, he even refused any money from this film.
If this is the case, how did anyone get the rights to do the movie? Money had to exchange hands somewhere… or someone got robbed and should therefore be suing…[/quote]
Quite simply, Moore didn’t own the works that have been adapted.
Almost everyone in the comic book industry that doesn’t self-publish produces “works-for-hire”.
The comany owns the characters (even if you create them), the story, the themes, everthing.
For example, Wolverine (a character that has made his owners more than a few dollars) was conjured into being by a guy named Len Wein. How much money did he see from the movies?
Zip.
Another character you might have heard of was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster in 1938. It wasn’t until the 70’s that they were given a token amount of money generated from the billions their character was/is/will be worth.
That character was Superman.
Nowadays, Alan Moore’s characters belong to him, but this is only because he has proven himself to be a moneymaker.
“V For Vendetta” was written for Vertigo, DC’s adult imprint. The characters and stories are owned by Warner Brothers. Mr Moore has no say whatsoever over their futures.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Blood is Metal wrote:
Old Bailey wrote:
Alan Moore hated any of his work being adapted into movies, he even refused any money from this film.
If this is the case, how did anyone get the rights to do the movie? Money had to exchange hands somewhere… or someone got robbed and should therefore be suing…
Quite simply, Moore didn’t own the works that have been adapted.
Almost everyone in the comic book industry that doesn’t self-publish produces “works-for-hire”.
The comany owns the characters (even if you create them), the story, the themes, everthing.
For example, Wolverine (a character that has made his owners more than a few dollars) was conjured into being by a guy named Len Wein. How much money did he see from the movies?
Zip.
Another character you might have heard of was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster in 1938. It wasn’t until the 70’s that they were given a token amount of money generated from the billions their character was/is/will be worth.
That character was Superman.
Nowadays, Alan Moore’s characters belong to him, but this is only because he has proven himself to be a moneymaker.
“V For Vendetta” was written for Vertigo, DC’s adult imprint. The characters and stories are owned by Warner Brothers. Mr Moore has no say whatsoever over their futures.
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Your knowledge on this stuff is pretty impressive. I will find a way to stump you one day, however.
One day.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Quite simply, Moore didn’t own the works that have been adapted.
Almost everyone in the comic book industry that doesn’t self-publish produces “works-for-hire”.
The comany owns the characters (even if you create them), the story, the themes, everthing.
For example, Wolverine (a character that has made his owners more than a few dollars) was conjured into being by a guy named Len Wein. How much money did he see from the movies?
Zip.
Another character you might have heard of was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster in 1938. It wasn’t until the 70’s that they were given a token amount of money generated from the billions their character was/is/will be worth.
That character was Superman.
Nowadays, Alan Moore’s characters belong to him, but this is only because he has proven himself to be a moneymaker.
“V For Vendetta” was written for Vertigo, DC’s adult imprint. The characters and stories are owned by Warner Brothers. Mr Moore has no say whatsoever over their futures.
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Right. That makes perfect sense. Dunno why that didn’t occur to me. Good call!
To answer a post a ways back, yes, Ultraviolet sucks more than Aeon Flux. I have to admit though, that though both were shoddy movies, there were elements of them I enjoyed.
For example, in Ultraviolet, the ability to have containers larger on the inside than on the outside and the novel way she arms up, that was cool.
However, one thing I hated was how they softened the faces of the actors. I guess they were looking for the comic book appearance?
Anyway, did anyone else hear rumor of another Hellboy coming down the pipeline? I saw the first, and I’ll pay to see the second…
[quote]Pete Ross wrote:
That side story is word for word from the original, and is central to the most important point of the overall story.[/quote]
Thanks for the clarification.
I understand why it was important, but was a bit long/given emphasis.
Was a good post, you could had jut edited the ending details.
SPOILER WARNING!
I never read the comics but I liked this movie. Alot. I thought that the people who created it avoided ruining the movie in two tempting ways:
They could have let V get captured and transformed into some kind of conformist much like the end of 1984, or “Repent Harlequin,” Said the Tick Tock Man. Then Portman’s character could take up his cause and there would be some message in there about something.
And this was worrying me through the entire film. V could have decided to be with what’s her name instead of carrying out his plan. This choice was presented to him near the end and he chose revenge over love. Fucking A. I’ve heard criticism that V’s character was more morally ambiguous in the comic but I think his decision keeps that conflict in our minds. He did not even see the building blow up. He chose his personal revenge over both love and freedom/revolution(although he may have counted on her to carry it out…that may be his gesture of love…blah).
[quote]Professor X wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Blood is Metal wrote:
Old Bailey wrote:
Alan Moore hated any of his work being adapted into movies, he even refused any money from this film.
If this is the case, how did anyone get the rights to do the movie? Money had to exchange hands somewhere… or someone got robbed and should therefore be suing…
Quite simply, Moore didn’t own the works that have been adapted.
Almost everyone in the comic book industry that doesn’t self-publish produces “works-for-hire”.
The comany owns the characters (even if you create them), the story, the themes, everthing.
For example, Wolverine (a character that has made his owners more than a few dollars) was conjured into being by a guy named Len Wein. How much money did he see from the movies?
Zip.
Another character you might have heard of was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster in 1938. It wasn’t until the 70’s that they were given a token amount of money generated from the billions their character was/is/will be worth.
That character was Superman.
Nowadays, Alan Moore’s characters belong to him, but this is only because he has proven himself to be a moneymaker.
“V For Vendetta” was written for Vertigo, DC’s adult imprint. The characters and stories are owned by Warner Brothers. Mr Moore has no say whatsoever over their futures.
Your knowledge on this stuff is pretty impressive. I will find a way to stump you one day, however.
One day.[/quote]
X, you’re a an actual medical doctor with about 50 pounds of muscle on me.
I know a lot about comic books.
You won.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Your knowledge on this stuff is pretty impressive. I will find a way to stump you one day, however.
One day.
X, you’re a an actual medical doctor with about 50 pounds of muscle on me.
I know a lot about comic books.
You won.
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Some say impressive, others say you spent too much time in the library playing dungeons and dragons during recess.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
…
It is not truly satisfying unless you can convince the ticket counter that you deserve your money back and free tickets for the next movie you see based on how crappy it was. I did this for the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy…which is about as close to cinematic dog shit as you can get.[/quote]
I was going to see this in the $2 theater last year until you posted how much you hated it.
[quote]slimjim wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Your knowledge on this stuff is pretty impressive. I will find a way to stump you one day, however.
One day.
X, you’re a an actual medical doctor with about 50 pounds of muscle on me.
I know a lot about comic books.
You won.
Some say impressive, others say you spent too much time in the library playing dungeons and dragons during recess.[/quote]
I’d probably let this go, but I have a reputation to protect:
Never played one minute of Dungeons and Dragons.
Also never liked Star Trek.
I did, however, play trombone in the high school band. I also spent pretty much the entire weekend bagging, boarding, categorizing, and alphabetizing faaaaaaaar too many long boxes full of comics.
So–geek, yes. D&D geek, no.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
slimjim wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Your knowledge on this stuff is pretty impressive. I will find a way to stump you one day, however.
One day.
X, you’re a an actual medical doctor with about 50 pounds of muscle on me.
I know a lot about comic books.
You won.
Some say impressive, others say you spent too much time in the library playing dungeons and dragons during recess.
I’d probably let this go, but I have a reputation to protect:
Never played one minute of Dungeons and Dragons.
Also never liked Star Trek.
I did, however, play trombone in the high school band. I also spent pretty much the entire weekend bagging, boarding, categorizing, and alphabetizing faaaaaaaar too many long boxes full of comics.
So–geek, yes. D&D geek, no.
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I think I grew up on the end of that D&D shit because I only knew one kid in junior High who was into that. He always struck me as a future child molester…which is funny considering we were kids.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Anyway, did anyone else hear rumor of another Hellboy coming down the pipeline? I saw the first, and I’ll pay to see the second…[/quote]
I have heard this as well. And I would love to see it.